Season 6: Ready Set go!

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Oh no, I forgot this was the start of Phoebe’s horrible baby hunt. Can’t believe they stretched this crap over two and half seasons.

Yeah, forget all the good storylines they could have done.  Let's waste episode after episode on this rubbish idea.

Introduced to Magic School... which I will refer to as Notwarts, since they were too damn lazy to give the place an actual name.

TWOP actually came up with that name.  Because it is a Hogwarts rip off.

Sooo not interested in Phoebe’s Me-Quest.

You and me both.

Student: Whoa, it's Piper Halliwell!
Just spend a few more minutes with her, kid; that enthusiasm will die quickly.

So we know about Chris. Good, if I remember correctly, I think things improve a bit from here on out.

Yeah, but only a bit, unfortunately. 

Chris: Only if I can get Piper and Leo back together in time.
Yeah, oopsie woopsie doopsie, huh Chris? Of all the time travel boo boos, orchestrating your parent’s break up before your conception and potentially erasing yourself from existence is a pretty freaking big one isn’t it?!

Marty McFly did the same thing.  However, he did it by accident.

[Esmeralda]

Jul 5, 2015 18:06:09 GMT -5 @p3nathan said:

The Legend of Sleepy Halliwell

Hmmm, not quite sure why, but I didn't laugh as much at this one as I have your earlier reviews. I rolled my eyes at the stupidity of the Charmed Ones, but otherwise, it just didn't hit me the same way, even though every one of your points was spot on.

This was my favorite:

Phoebe: Are you Wyatt's little brother?
Chris: Only if I can get Piper and Leo back together in time.
Yeah, oopsie woopsie doopsie, huh Chris? Of all the time travel boo boos, orchestrating your parent’s break up before your conception and potentially erasing yourself from existence is a pretty freaking big one isn’t it?!

Did Kern really think we'd be convinced that Chris would be *that* stupid to believe that he planned on this when he first had Chris orb back to the past? Did he really think that we wouldn't guess that he was supposed to be Paige's and not Leo and Piper's? Or even not a Halliwell at all? I firmly agree with the fans who say that had Holly not gotten pregnant, he never would've been unfortunate enough to have Leo and Piper as parents and turn out to be the lying, whining, murdering brat he is. All because Brad Kern kept changing his life story... *shake head in despair over this show*

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It is ridiculous. Apply this to what has happened previously and 99% of the stuff Chris has done and said just make no logical sense.

Yeah I'll be honest, I wasn't feeling this one so much. It's a real middle of the road episode for me.
I'm much more looking forward to I Dream of Phoebe next.

[Esmeralda]

Jul 6, 2015 7:27:36 GMT -5 @p3nathan said:

It is ridiculous. Apply this to what has happened previously and 99% of the stuff Chris has done and said just make no logical sense.

Well, asking for logical sense from "The Perils of Poor, Poor Pitiful Piper" aka "PhoeME and Her Fantasy Men" aka "Two Witches Plus One Living Whitelighter Equals The Power of Three?" doesn't make sense.

This is all specifically true when you remember that originally Drew Fuller was only signed for eight episodes. That would've been before Holly found out she was pregnant (she said that was during the King Arthur episode - the reason it's her favorite episode along with getting to play with the sword - so obviously after the earlier episodes were aired. Drew Fuller said that Brad Kern told him right off the bat that he'd be Piper and Leo's son, but I think that's as much spin as all of the different stories regarding Prue's death. And if he was told, he did a crappy job of showing it, all part of why they shoud've chosen someone who could act like a Halliwell, not just look like one.

Yeah I'll be honest, I wasn't feeling this one so much. It's a real middle of the road episode for me.

I'm much more looking forward to I Dream of Phoebe next.

OOOO, me, too! My favorite S6 episode because I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh at them not with them, especially at the horrible way Chris talks about his mother and his conception. This was the episode that proved to me that he didn't love anyone but himself.d

I hope you get to do that today - what a great birthday present it would make! And since I took the day off work, I won't have to worry about my co-workers.

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Jul 6, 2015 8:01:30 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

This is all specifically true when you remember that originally Drew Fuller was only signed for eight episodes.

Really? I didn't know that. Wonder how different season 6 could have been.

Jul 6, 2015 8:01:30 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

OOOO, me, too! My favorite S6 episode because I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh at them not with them, especially at the horrible way Chris talks about his mother and his conception. This was the episode that proved to me that he didn't love anyone but himself.d

I hope you get to do that today - what a great birthday present it would make! And since I took the day off work, I won't have to worry about my co-workers.

Happy birthday!
I've just finished some paperwork I needed to do, so I'll watch the episode now. Should have it up here soon

[Esmeralda]

LOL, I see you're having as many problems formatting your posts as I am! But I wonder if something's screwy with ProBoards, since I can't quote your entire post by hitting the "Quote" button. But I'll try via copy and pasting....

Jul 6, 2015 8:12:58 GMT -5 @p3nathan said:

Jul 6, 2015 8:01:30 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

This is all specifically true when you remember that originally Drew Fuller was only signed for eight episodes.

Really? I didn't know that. Wonder how different season 6 could have been.

Yep, I remember reading that, and looking back over the earlier episodes of Chris (including "Oh, My Goddess!" and the latter ones, you can definitely tell the difference, although some fans will insist they see Chris looking at Piper in a way where you can tell he loves her and misses her. I notice that as much as I notice the "tension" between Shannen and Alyssa during S3 when it's not actual tension between Prue and Phoebe... Unfortunately I've read so many things over the years from so many places and never saw the need to kept track of any of them, with most of those places long gone, that I have no need or desire to go hunting for those spots. Of course, if someone finds something that proves I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it.

OOOO, me, too! My favorite S6 episode because I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh at them not with them, especially at the horrible way Chris talks about his mother and his conception. This was the episode that proved to me that he didn't love anyone but himself.

I hope you get to do that today - what a great birthday present it would make! And since I took the day off work, I won't have to worry about my co-workers.

Happy birthday!

Thank you!

I've just finished some paperwork I needed to do, so I'll watch the episode now. Should have it up here soon

YAY! Have some stuff of my own to do, but I'll definitely be looking for it!

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I Dream of Phoebe

Ha, Chris can put Phoebe on mute. God knows the audience often want to.

Chris is suddenly really determined to get Piper and Leo back together, despite showing zero interest in doing so up till now. He’s been talking to oracles and discovered that this is the month of his conception. Shouldn’t he have worked this all out before coming? I know, I know, stop trying to make sense of Chris’ plan, it only leads to more pain and confusion.

Chris: Nobody can find out Piper and Leo are my parents. It can mess with the whole future.
Oh for cryin' out loud, would you give that line a rest Chris? It’s perfectly clear that you’ve failed miserably at the whole “surgical strike” approach to changing the past. If the future isn’t royally f’d already, it’s a freakin' miracle with all the crap you’ve pulled this season! Just be glad that apes aren't ruling the planet! 

Phoebe: Okay, I'm just trying to get used to you being my nephew. I never hit on you, did I?
Yeah Phoebe, you did, when you became The Goddess of Sleaze. Thanks for reminding me of that horror show of a two-parter!

Chris: Leo had to become an Elder to make room for me as your Whitelighter. It was the only way I could protect Wyatt from turning evil.
Erm, yeah you’d already done that... so why the Valhalla stuff? And it was all kinda pointless anyway I guess, since Leo has been in more of this season than you have. I know, I know, pain and confusion.

Phoebe: I'm not finished. Your parents were happy until you split them up.
Well... happy might be pushing it a bit Phoebe. After some counselling they were managing not to scream at each other and destroy the house quite so much.

Chris: If I'm not conceived in the next couple of weeks, I'll disappear forever.
Oh okay then, bye!

I always wondered why Jinny is in normal clothes in Phoebe’s vision and not her genie costume. Also, this whole episode pretty much happens because Phoebe gets set up by her own power!

Chris: Yeah, why would an archaeologist in the middle east send a letter to an advice columnist in San Francisco?
Oh haven’t you heard Chris? Phoebe is a super celebrity of the highest level. Astronauts in space are gabbing about how awesome her advice column is as we speak! She’s THAT amazing.

Aaaaah God! The flying carpet. Oh for the love of... urgh. The cartoon version in Aladdin was more realistic. It’s just hilariously bad.

Phoebe makes her first wish. Because of course when a genie is around, people are incapable of not dropping the word “wish” into casual conversation. As is genie law.

Rose looks lovely in this episode.

Jinny is determined to get Phoebe to wish her free so Bosk can’t get to her. She’s banking a lot on Phoebe’s stupidity... wonder what she would’ve done if she’d just wished Bosk was vanquished; that’d kinda kill her plan. But then I guess she probably picked Pheebs for a reason.

Nice Barbara Eden style nod and blink for the wish granting. Wonder if she saw this episode... probably not.

Bosk: Open sesame.
Urgh really? So this episode is 50% I Dream of Jeannie, 40% Aladdin and 10% Charmed. Then again, I’m having far more fun with this than what we’ve had previously this season.

Woohoo, Poncho-Action Piper is back! This time in pink. Demons of the world, beware her knit wear!

Chris: As well you should. If we don't do something soon, I can end up half fireman instead of half Whitelighter.
Yes Chris, that’s how it works. You’ll be half fireman- half night club owner... the same way I’m half teacher-half welder. I think we can safely cross geneticist off your list of career options anyway.

Chris: Look, I'm running out of time here. So what do you say we get to use that Genie to make mum and dad... you know.
Okay seriously, what is it with everybody using magic to try and get Piper to have sex this season? It’s gross!

Jinny looks pretty bad-ass.

Phoebe: I can't. I don't know how. Try commanding me.
Piper: Uh, okay. GET THE HELL OUTTA THERE!
Heh, that line always gets me.

Phoebe: I feel ridiculous.
Chin up Phoebe. At least it’s a big step up from Mata Hari. I still scream in horror every time I see a red scarf; thanks for those flashbacks by the way!

Phoebe: Oh, and why do I always get stuck with the wig?
Notice how they didn’t start putting her in wigs until she started getting terrible hair-cuts? Make of that what you will.

Piper: How come your empathy thing didn't give her away?
Pfft, Piper, what a stupid question.

Phoebe: She tricked me...
Tricked you? Yeah that happens a lot huh?
Worst...psychic...EVER!

Chris’ wish turns Leo into an even bigger dumbass. Although it suits him better than snarly, angry Leo at least.

Paige: Yeah, but don't you need to go help Major Nelson?
Okay Paige, we already established where the writers got their ideas from a while ago, but welcome back.

Chris: (thinks) Greg, Greg. Greg, the fireman? You mean the one she's insanely sexually attracted to?
Chris: We finally got dad in a good mood and mum, she's still sexed up from the fireman.
Ew, ew, ew! That’s your mother you’re talking about you creep!

Chris wishes for them to “sleep together” and we know how that goes. Not sure why he went with the euphemistic way of saying it anyway; he’s been graphic enough about getting his mother laid up until then!

Richard has the bottle. Cuz he’s craaazy. All drugged up on magic and looking to shoot up on some wishes. ...Or something.
Sorry but I find this whole magic addiction thing hilarious. I always just picture Richard sniffing fairy dust or rolling up a spliff of leprechaun gold or something. Doing bong hits with a bunch of gnomes.

The carpet is incinerated. Yay! Not sure why a demon who can teleport needs a flying carpet anyway.

Chris is an asshole to Greg and gets rid of him.
Chris: Sorry, mum, it's for the best.
Yeah, best for you.
I know I’m supposed to sympathize with his situation (even though he caused it in the first place)... but with the wish (and I believe they try a love potion later) I really hate how Piper is basically having the choice of what she does with her own body taken from her. Whatever the reasons, I find it pretty disgusting.

Richard’s genie getup is so boring compared to the other two. Come on guys, get his in something sparkly, or paint him blue and give him a ponytail. This is his last episode, give him some trauma to remember you all by!

Jinny resurrects Agrabah... erm, sorry... I mean Zanbar!

Aw geez, the CGI is just as horrendous as ever.

Well so much for Leo not being able to heal the dead. Oooh Prue is gonna be pissed!

I’ll actually miss Richard a little. I liked him and Paige. I also think this addiction story could have been a lot better if they’d actually spent time showing it develop instead of just telling us that it was happening 90% of the time. Nevertheless, the way Paige and him deal with it is pretty good and sad.
And like Jason, Richard won’t be coming back. But Fireman Greg, he will be... because I’m sure Kern got thousands of letters demanding that fireman Greg return; I mean he’s such a deep, layered and exciting character, how could he not? Think of the possibilities.

Ah, I enjoyed that one. Plenty to criticize, but it was fun... and I needed to get some more fun out of this season.

[Esmeralda]

OMG! I’ve only got a quarter of the way through this, but I’m laughing so hard that I very simply had to copy the whole thing and comment as I go along! I’m just hope that crazy quote function decides to work!

Jul 6, 2015 10:50:45 GMT -5 @p3nathan said:

I Dream of Phoebe

Ha, Chris can put Phoebe on mute. God knows the audience often want to.

*clapping as she laughs like a loon* Oh, this is already more fun than Used Karma! Now if we could put Leo, Piper, Paige and Chris all on mute, I might actually enjoy this season!

Chris is suddenly really determined to get Piper and Leo back together, despite showing zero interest in doing so up till now. He’s been talking to oracles and discovered that this is the month of his conception. Shouldn’t he have worked this all out before coming? I know, I know, stop trying to make sense of Chris’ plan, it only leads to more pain and confusion.

Hehehehehehehehehehehehe! You’re starting to catch on….

Chris: Nobody can find out Piper and Leo are my parents. It can mess with the whole future.
Oh for cryin' out loud, would you give that line a rest Chris? It’s perfectly clear that you’ve failed miserably at the whole “surgical strike” approach to changing the past. If the future isn’t royally f’d already, it’s a freakin' miracle with all the crap you’ve pulled this season! Just be glad that apes aren't ruling the planet!

This is when I laughed so hard that I had to start over!

And seriously, it’s the thing that I had the biggest problem with S6 and with most fanfics that includes time travel. What the hell was Chris doing hanging out in the past FOR OVER A YEAR? For all of his b!tching about future consequences and not messing up the future doesn’t the IDIOT (or his idiotic parents, or his idiotic aunts, or the idiotic Elders or the idiotic executive producer who was in charge of all of this) realize that he screws up the future of every single person he runs into? He should’ve never stayed any longer than a couple of days at the absolute most unless he only observed and had absolutely no interactions with ANYONE in the past, his family included.

Of course, some people would say, “Well, what about “That Seventies Episode”? Exactly so. Why did Grams have so many heart problems? It was knowing that her granddaughters were going to be Charmed….Using time travel to fix problems is just such a copout unless it's to go back and let those in the past know what they have to do to fix their own future, the way Grams binding the sisters' powers is what fixed theirs.  All Chris did was set up an everlasting time loop.

And in both that situation and "All Halliwell's Eve", they were doing it because the Founders (not Kern's Elders) wanted them to, people who knew what was going to happen along the entire timeline, not just their own future like Chris just trying to fix things for him and Bianca.

Phoebe: Okay, I'm just trying to get used to you being my nephew. I never hit on you, did I?
Yeah Phoebe, you did, when you became The Goddess of Sleaze. Thanks for reminding me of that horror show of a two-parter!

EWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!! Thanks for that reminder!

Chris: Leo had to become an Elder to make room for me as your Whitelighter. It was the only way I could protect Wyatt from turning evil.
Erm, yeah you’d already done that... so why the Valhalla stuff? And it was all kinda pointless anyway I guess, since Leo has been in more of this season than you have. I know, I know, pain and confusion.

Is that truly the best that Kern could come up with to explain his stupid costume parties, which I’m sure were mandated by TheWB?

Phoebe: I'm not finished. Your parents were happy until you split them up.
Well... happy might be pushing it a bit Phoebe. After some counselling they were managing not to scream at each other and destroy the house quite so much.

ROFL!!! But the point is very strong – the person behind Chris suddenly finding himself possibly going bye-bye (don’t I wish?) is CHRISTOPHER HALLIWELL! What a moron!

Chris: If I'm not conceived in the next couple of weeks, I'll disappear forever.
Oh okay then, bye!

Wouldn’t that have been the best solution to this whole problem? Then they could conceive a totally different Chris and raise him and Wyatt totally differently and we wouldn’t have to worry about any of this!

I always wondered why Jinny is in normal clothes in Phoebe’s vision and not her genie costume. Also, this whole episode pretty much happens because Phoebe gets set up by her own power!

ROFL!! Do you know that’s something that I’ve never considered before, but you’re absolutely right!

Chris: Yeah, why would an archaeologist in the middle east send a letter to an advice columnist in San Francisco?
Oh haven’t you heard Chris? Phoebe is a super celebrity of the highest level. Astronauts in space are gabbing about how awesome her advice column is as we speak! She’s THAT amazing.

ROFLMAO! I have tears in my eyes I’m laughing so hard!

Aaaaah God! The flying carpet. Oh for the love of... urgh. The cartoon version in Aladdin was more realistic. It’s just hilariously bad.

LOL! Amen!

Phoebe makes her first wish. Because of course when a genie is around, people are incapable of not dropping the word “wish” into casual conversation. As is genie law.

Hehehehehehe, even after they’ve already ran into a genie and should’ve know better….

Rose looks lovely in this episode.

She does. I’m not nuts on Paige with the lighter hair – the lighter the hair, the ditzier she got – I always thought the peroxide went straight to her brain – but it really suits Rose.

Jinny is determined to get Phoebe to wish her free so Bosk can’t get to her. She’s banking a lot on Phoebe’s stupidity... wonder what she would’ve done if she’d just wished Bosk was vanquished; that’d kinda kill her plan. But then I guess she probably picked Pheebs for a reason.

ROFL! You are so right about that – although keep in mind that this is *not* Phoebs (she died during “Sleuthing with the Enemy” – you’ll notice no one called her Phoebs after that!); it’s PhoeME! I’m sure Jinny went through every advice columnist in the world and chose the most stupid one.

Nice Barbara Eden style nod and blink for the wish granting. Wonder if she saw this episode... probably not.

Probably not, but honestly, it’s the only part of the whole episode that I truly like.

Bosk: Open sesame.
Urgh really? So this episode is 50% I Dream of Jeannie, 40% Aladdin and 10% Charmed. Then again, I’m having far more fun with this than what we’ve had previously this season.

Which is exactly why it’s my favorite episode of the season, the only one I’ll re-watch since I have it on VHS.

Woohoo, Poncho-Action Piper is back! This time in pink. Demons of the world, beware her knit wear!

ROFLMFAO!!! You’re killing me, guy, but I SO totally love it!

Chris: As well you should. If we don't do something soon, I can end up half fireman instead of half Whitelighter.
Yes Chris, that’s how it works. You’ll be half fireman- half night club owner... the same way I’m half teacher-half welder. I think we can safely cross geneticist off your list of career options anyway.

Tell that to all of those fans who think that Piper’s kids would be more powerful than Paige’s kids because he’s half-whitelighter while they’re only quarter-whitelighter.

But there’s the other perfect solution to this problem. Make Chris “half-firefighter” he becomes someone totally different! Problem solved!

Chris: Look, I'm running out of time here. So what do you say we get to use that Genie to make mum and dad... you know.
Okay seriously, what is it with everybody using magic to try and get Piper to have sex this season? It’s gross!

And that’s the line that made me ask “If Chris truly loved his mother would he really be talking about her that coarsely?”

Jinny looks pretty bad-behind.

Stupid Café censor! I’ve been trying to convince the admins forever that words used in the show like a$$ and b!tch should be allowed on this site! But you’re right – she definitely is. Easily my favorite character in this episode.

Phoebe: I can't. I don't know how. Try commanding me.
Piper: Uh, okay. GET THE HELL OUTTA THERE!
Heh, that line always gets me.

LOL! Ditto!

Phoebe: I feel ridiculous.
Chin up Phoebe. At least it’s a big step up from Mata Hari. I still scream in horror every time I see a red scarf; thanks for those flashbacks by the way!

Hehehehehe! And so much better than the clothes she thinks are appropriate for the office!

Phoebe: Oh, and why do I always get stuck with the wig?
Notice how they didn’t start putting her in wigs until she started getting terrible hair-cuts? Make of that what you will.

ROFL!! No, I never did notice that, but you’re SO right!

Piper: How come your empathy thing didn't give her away?
Pfft, Piper, what a stupid question.

Phoebe: She tricked me...
Tricked you? Yeah that happens a lot huh?
Worst...psychic...EVER!

AMEN!

Chris’ wish turns Leo into an even bigger dumbass. Although it suits him better than snarly, angry Leo at least.

Funny how the censor allows dumbass and not a$$. At least it’s better than the original ProBoards one. When they first transferred one of my favorite S6 fanfics “The Witch and The Assassin” it posted as “The Witch and the Behindbehindin”!

But I agree totally regarding Leo.

Paige: Yeah, but don't you need to go help Major Nelson?
Okay Paige, we already established where the writers got their ideas from a while ago, but welcome back.

Oh, I didn’t mind at all – as I said, it’s one of my favorite parts of this episode – all of the nods to one of my favorite TV shows. And DIRECT nods, not steals!

Chris: (thinks) Greg, Greg. Greg, the fireman? You mean the one she's insanely sexually attracted to?
Chris: We finally got dad in a good mood and mum, she's still sexed up from the fireman.
Ew, ew, ew! That’s your mother you’re talking about you creep!

And the creep keeps proving my point that he has absolutely no respect for his mother.

Chris wishes for them to “sleep together” and we know how that goes. Not sure why he went with the euphemistic way of saying it anyway; he’s been graphic enough about getting his mother laid up until then!

Too true!

Richard has the bottle. Cuz he’s craaazy. All drugged up on magic and looking to shoot up on some wishes. ...Or something.
Sorry but I find this whole magic addiction thing hilarious. I always just picture Richard sniffing fairy dust or rolling up a spliff of leprechaun gold or something. Doing bong hits with a bunch of gnomes.

ROFLMFAO!!! I never thought of that before, but what a great visual!!! Thank you for that!

The carpet is incinerated. Yay! Not sure why a demon who can teleport needs a flying carpet anyway.

Coz “genie” means Aladdin, right?

Chris is an not a very nice person to Greg and gets rid of him.
Chris: Sorry, mum, it's for the best.
Yeah, best for you.
I know I’m supposed to sympathize with his situation (even though he caused it in the first place)... but with the wish (and I believe they try a love potion later) I really hate how Piper is basically having the choice of what she does with her own body taken from her. Whatever the reasons, I find it pretty disgusting.

Ditto. Particularly where this is the worst thing for Piper and Leo – it helps keep them together and nothing could be worse for either.

Richard’s genie getup is so boring compared to the other two. Come on guys, get his in something sparkly, or paint him blue and give him a ponytail. This is his last episode, give him some trauma to remember you all by!

ROFL!!! It just shows what they thought of his character.

Jinny resurrects Agrabah... erm, sorry... I mean Zanbar!

Hehehehe!

Aw geez, the CGI is just as horrendous as ever.

*sigh* So unfortunately true.

Well so much for Leo not being able to heal the dead. Oooh Prue is gonna be pissed!

Yes, would someone please tell me why when Richard wished the Charmed Ones alive, why Prue wasn’t resurrected? That idea is the basis of one of my favorite fanfics: Aurora Nightstar’s “Aftermath of a Wish”

I’ll actually miss Richard a little. I liked him and Paige. I also think this addiction story could have been a lot better if they’d actually spent time showing it develop instead of just telling us that it was happening 90% of the time. Nevertheless, the way Paige and him deal with it is pretty good and sad.
And like Jason, Richard won’t be coming back. But Fireman Greg, he will be... because I’m sure Kern got thousands of letters demanding that fireman Greg return; I mean he’s such a deep, layered and exciting character, how could he not? Think of the possibilities.

Hehehehehe! Must’ve been the only unemployed slampiece!

Ah, I enjoyed that one. Plenty to criticize, but it was fun... and I needed to get some more fun out of this season.

Well, you most certainly did!! Thank you so much for one of my best birthday presents this year!

[Astral Vision]

That was another really funny review, P3Nathan.

Happy Birthday, Es!

[Esmeralda]

Thank you!

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I wonder if they suddenly made Chris the second son once they found out Holly was pregnant.  It would explain his sudden change of actions halfway through the season.

[Melinda Halliwell]

That's exactly what happened. When Chris came back end of season 5 he was just some whitelighter from the future who was there because of the Titans. The writers had no idea what they were doing with him at the time
then when Holly announced her pregnancy season 6 that gave them the perfect idea of making Chris Piper's second son who was really there to save Wyatt so Holly's pregnancy could be written into the show to explain the change in her then.

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Jul 6, 2015 12:08:38 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Stupid Café censor! I’ve been trying to convince the admins forever that words used in the show like a$$ and b!tch should be allowed on this site! But you’re right – she definitely is. Easily my favorite character in this episode.

Gah, I keep forgetting about the censoring, I usually use the British version "arse" to get around it haha.
Agreed, words regularly used on the show should really be okay to say on here... plus I'm pretty sure I've said worse on here and not been censored lol.

Anyway, glad you enjoyed.
Hope you had a good birthday

[Esmeralda]

Jul 7, 2015 6:44:45 GMT -5 @p3nathan said:

Jul 6, 2015 12:08:38 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Stupid Café censor! I’ve been trying to convince the admins forever that words used in the show like a$$ and b!tch should be allowed on this site! But you’re right – she definitely is. Easily my favorite character in this episode.

Gah, I keep forgetting about the censoring, I usually use the British version "arse" to get around it haha.

Hehehehehe, that's a good way of doing it, although I just like getting around it with things like a$$

Agreed, words regularly used on the show should really be okay to say on here... plus I'm pretty sure I've said worse on here and not been censored lol.

Hehehehehehe!

Anyway, glad you enjoyed.

Most definitely!

Hope you had a good birthday

Had a great one, and it's just starting - with it that close to a holiday, I tend to celebrate it all summer, whenever people have time to help me celebrate! Pretty cool for a 62-year-old!

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The Back Alley Coitus of Wyatt's Father

Wyatt’s birthday. Who are all these people? You guys don’t have friends, who ya trying to kid?



Piper: Yeah, he was a really good boy and only made mummy freeze the room once.

Well at least she’s remembering she has that power off screen I guess. Sidenote- Piper looks really nice with curls in her hair.



Piper: He was excited to see you. He misses you.

Leo: I know. I miss him too.

YOU HAVEN’T GONE ANYWHERE!!!



According to Leo, Elders aren’t allowed to drink. I’m almost certain I’ve seen him with beer at P3 but whatever.



Paige coloured her hair, so all Charmed Ones are brunette again. First time since season 4.



Ah here we are, talking about the love potion. Your body, your choice, their arses Piper!



Chris stands waiting to be shot by the arrow. Chris, you know you’re telekinetic and you can orb, right? Oh you do? Carry on then.



Chris (to Paige): Wait, I thought you were against making the love potion?

Nah, Paige loves magic that involves her big sister’s sex life. She’s Piper’s witch-pimp this season... that’s been her occupation since the stupid temp jobs were forgotten about.



Giddy makes a boring speech about books. Geesh, I hope he doesn’t teach classes, his voice could make you slip into a coma.



Gideon: No, you shouldn't, you should go back up with the other Elders where you'll be safe.

Pfft. Tell that to Eames and the Titans!



Gideon: No, you're an Elder now and it's time to start acting like one. Don't you see? You don't just put yourself at risk by staying here on earth, you put all Elders at risk too. If they catch you, they get access to us all.

Erm, then why do you get too? I mean sure Notwarts is protected, but it’s not like he stays there all the time! Wait, why am I defending Leo sticking around? Shut up Nathan! *Cough* sorry. Yeah, piss off Leo!



Clarence the Angel of Death, I forgot about this. I guess they couldn’t get Templeman for this one, which is a shame. I don’t really like there being more than one. I know it kinda makes sense considering the death rate all over the world... but still, I liked it when it was THE Angel of Death. Just doesn’t have the same impact otherwise.



Phoebe: Or maybe it just wasn't meant to be.

Phoebe: But not if he changed too much by coming here. You know, messed up his own timeline.

The second one is a perfectly valid point (coming from Phoebe, which makes me nervous)... but still it makes me laugh that Phoebe is so ready to just let him fade. Heh, typical. Also, once again we have the “meant to be/not meant to be” line as an excuse to not bother about stuff.



Going after the darklighters. Not sure why they’d risk Leo going with them when they’ve already established he’s the one they’re after.



The Ghostly Plane. Always makes me think of that Twilight Zone episode, I like eerie ghost town things. Should I ask what happened to Limbo from season 4? Oh who am I kidding?



Phoebe in hospital. Ah just let her go doc, a concussion won’t make that much of a difference.



The bus driver- “you must be an angel Leo.” Funny that he ignored Piper haha.

But no Mr. Bus driver man, not an angel, an Elder. They make out like they’re angels, but really they’re just arse-hats.



Leo is shot by a darklighter arrow... AGAIN. What is this, the fourth time? Also, good job standing right in front of the window; that makes it much harder for someone to shoot you!



I don’t really get why Angel of Death 2.0 is there for Chris anyway. Fading from existence and dying aren’t really the same things are they? If he ceased to exist, would there even be a soul to move on?



Chris fades away, but I have absolutely no idea why. Piper and Leo are about to do the deed in the alley and nobody orchestrates or changes anything to make that happen. So Chris’ timeline seems to be running smoothly to me!



Giddy is after Wyatt. Dun, dun, dun!!!

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Gideon:  Should I approach the Halliwells and state my concerns about Wyatt.  Perhaps they might consider my case.... 

Nahhhhhhh, I'll just throw away everything I believe in and partner up with demons to kill a child that's done me no harm.  That makes much more sense

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Hyde School Reunion

Holly’s baby bump revealed! Not that they were really fooling anyone, but still.

Why is Chris dressed like a stereotypical hobo? Pretty sure they never explain that.

Piper won’t tell Leo about the baby. You just know she’ll use it against him and b!tch about him not being there in like five minutes.

I’m kinda disappointed that this flash forward means that we didn’t get to see Piper and Chris’ initial “So... you’re my son” conversation.

Phoebe in yet another wig... and we still have another to come this season. I’m tellin’ ya guys, they hate the haircut!

Hey Victor, hope you haven’t married another demon since we saw you last. That was stupid huh?

Stupid as Victor talking to Piper’s stomach is, I can’t deny the “Geez, he can come out!?” makes me smirk.

Phoebe’s reunion. Paige has dressed as Sulley from Monsters Inc. for the occasion I see.

Oh boy, and I thought Piper’s reunion was tacky.

Ah, Todd and Ramona... Phoebe’s original Ego-Trons it seems.

Paige: Phoebe, are you gonna let someone with a giant helmet that passes for hair talk to you like that?
Honestly Paige, you’ve got quite the bird’s nest going on tonight, so maybe take a jab at something else.

Paula: To the rest of the world, you might be Ask Phoebe, but to us you'll always be freebie.
Heehee. Is it bad that I kinda want to high five her?

Chris: Yeah, after the event happened, we got really close.
Piper: What event?
Chris: I can't tell you.
Well then don’t mention it you teasing little dumb-arse! If you can’t talk about it, don’t bring it up!!

Erm, so Chris is fine to warn Victor about his health issues, but not Piper about her death? Ooookay.

Phoebe: Well I’d rather be rich than a b!tch.
How does that work, seriously? What are they not able to say anything that rhymes now without magic happening? Pretty sure they have done in the past.

And the party animals are out! Urgh, reunion episodes are always so clichéd.

Chris and Victor in the restaurant. Insert rude French waiter cliché.

Paige: Uh-oh. (Paige picks up the melted scrying crystal.) Any idea how we're gonna find Phoebe now?
What happened to Paige being able to sense someone and orb straight to them? Oh who am I kidding? If she can’t orb a gun this episode, I don’t know why I’m even asking that!

Rick Gittridge. Played by that guy who has played crazy guys in like 90% of the shows I’ve watched. Okay, that may be an exaggeration, but I’ve seen him in quite a lot of stuff.

If Phoebe can transform Paula with just seven small words, I’m not sure why she can’t do the same or similar to Rick and put him back in his cell or something.

Phoebe: No, Piper, it's gonna have to wait. There are innocents in danger.
*Sigh* You know, if not for the ending, this could have been a pretty okay episode for Phoebe. Oh well.

Rick and Phoebe in the car. Chat, chat, chatting away and Rick has the gun pointed at himself for cryin’ out loud. Knowing what’s coming and seeing the ample opportunities to disarm or knock him out is driving me nuts!

Phoebe: No, you saw a hormonal teenage witch with no fear of consequences.
Oh yeah Phoebe, you’re terrified of consequences. You’d certainly never use magic for selfish or vindictive reasons. *Cough*

I must admit, I like that Phoebe makes use of her spell casting ability in this episode. With how focused on powers the show had become, I think Phoebe losing her powers later on would have been an ideal opportunity for at least one sister to focus on spell and potion making... instead of what we got with powerless Phoebe i.e- totally useless at worst, moving target at best.

Oh here comes the infamous scene.
Rick is chatty, chatty, chatty, plenty of time to orb a gun or disarm him. Nope...

Turned him into Chris. Okay, he’s checking himself out in the mirror. Good he’s distracted... now orb the gun Paige, or Phoebe knock him out!

...No? We’re really going with murder?

...Yup, we’re going with murder.

Paige: You know you had to, right?
Phoebe: I know.
No, no, no, no, no!!! You most definitely did NOT have to. You guys have dealt with guns before and since this episode without having to murder anyone! Idiots!

[Esmeralda]

Oh, P3Nathan!!! Just EXACTLY what I needed!!!! Thank you so VERY much - these are two of my least-favorite episodes and you made it clear why. And such a shame because both could've been such good episodes - but instead we are reminded how far down the primrose path Phoebe and Paige have gone... And Paige is supposed to be taking Prue's place as the moral compass??? Um, I don't think so.

This is what happens when "The wrong thing done for the right reason is still the wrong thing" becomes "Ends Justify Means"...

[Esmeralda]

Oh, was going to mention this when I read "The Back Alley Coitus of Wyatt's Father" (ADORE that title!), but personally I liked Clarence a lot better than Simon Templeton's Death, and he was "Death" as compared to Clarence's "an angel of death", the same way Season Two's cupid *was* Cupid, while Coop is just "a cupid". Ditto for THE Angel of Destiny (S4) become *an* angel of destiny (S8 and the comic's S9). Too bad they couldn't figure a way to turn S1's Victor Halliwell into S3's Victor Bennett - also letting Piper remain Piper Halliwell (and letting Wyatt and Chris keep that name) and trying to make us forget that the only Warren woman who kept the name of Halliwell before Piper was Patty. *roll eyes at Kern*.

If you only knew how badly I wish you'd rewrite Season Six the way Teshik rewrote Season Eight! Put them on fanfiction.net and you'll have yourself a hit!

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Oh here comes the infamous scene.
Rick is chatty, chatty, chatty, plenty of time to orb a gun or disarm him. Nope...

Turned him into Chris. Okay, he’s checking himself out in the mirror. Good he’s distracted... now orb the gun Paige, or Phoebe knock him out!

...No? We’re really going with murder?

...Yup, we’re going with murder.

Paige: You know you had to, right?
Phoebe: I know.
No, no, no, no, no!!! You most definitely did NOT have to. You guys have dealt with guns before and since this episode without having to murder anyone! Idiots!

Ugh, tell me about it...

Paige, ORB the gun out of Rick's hands.

Phoebe, knock him out.

Paige and Phoebe, tie him up and call Daryl.

Yeah, Rick was a criminal and admitted to murder.  However, when Cole vapourized those oxygen wasters in S5 who were shooting up that bar, Phoebe went all Holier Than Thou on him.  It's okay for the Halliwell sisters to murder a man in cold blood, but don't let Cole dare