Season 6: Ready Set go!

[adzpower]

Lest we forget Paige rescuing that stupid leprechaun from the wicked witch, eurgh.

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Right...
Used Karma


She’s going to tell Jason in front of Paige and Richard at the dinner table? Wouldn’t this perhaps be better between the two of them? I get that they want to support her, but I’m not sure surrounding Jason with witches is the best method here.

Richard is suddenly all about karma. Karma this, karma that, he has a karma theme song in the works.

So apparently Phoebe avoids conflict and has done her whole life. Hmm... yeah, I think she does okay to be honest.

Jason: Leo? What are you doing here?
Oh Jason. Thank you for asking that, I thought nobody ever would.

I didn’t mention it before in "Soul Survivor", but I always thought Phoebe redirecting fire/energy balls with empathy was total BS.

Jason fainting. A little over the top, but then I guess it’s meant to be funny.

Ooh Sara McLachlan. I like this song.

I’m no expert on karma (although somehow I doubt the writers are either), but why would Phoebe pay for Richard’s karma? Doesn’t that kinda defeat the purpose of it? Like if you hurt other people, that gives you bad karma, and that bad karma hurts other people because you hurt other people? Yeah, great system!

They think the Swarm Demons could be the ones who get Wyatt. Really? Those stupid guys with the sacks over their heads? You think they’ll be the big threat? Then again, at least Piper has actually paid attention to Chris’ revelation last episode... Leo really doesn’t seem to give a crap.

Jason’s meltdown. Poor guy, the first things on his mind are “Lucky Charmed” and “Nymphs Just Wanna Have Fun”. No wonder he’s breaking!

This is where the episode loses me. I don’t understand how karma possesses someone. I’m ignoring all the karma crap and just pretending she’s possessed by your standard angry spirit.

Just as embarrassing as I remembered. Wasn’t the dance in “Y Tu Mummy Tambien” enough?

Paige: I mean, there's all this unfinished karma just floating around out there waiting to complete its cycle.
I thought that was what reincarnation was for.

Not condoning Richard’s actions here, but really... he messes up a spell: that means he has a problem; he’s losing control. You guys do it: that means it’s a day ending in ‘y’.

Richard is looking to banish a spirit. So she is a spirit. Thank you Richard.

Oh God the dance. How is Alyssa not embarrassed? It’s awful.

It makes me laugh when Phoebe takes the last scarf off her arm and Jason is like “Ah geez!” trying to cover her up. Heh, because that last bit of arm was where she went way over the line haha.

I’d love to know how they dealt with explaining what happened to that auditorium. Actually, no I wouldn’t, I thought I cared for a moment. *cough* moving on.

Piper: What does her karma have to do with Phoebe?
Paige: Well, duplicitous, living a double life... Ring any bells?
Wow, way to leap guys. You’re really determined to make this theme work aren’t ya? It’s failing by the way; this is horrible and you should feel bad.

Phoebe/Hari is in The Swarm lair. Urgh, I wish they’d just kill her. Is it too late to get Prue back?

Phoebe: Well, I was hoping that you would help me create some bad karma for them by, oh, I don't know, maybe killing an innocent.
Okay, again... why would that give THEM bad karma? YOU do something, why would their karma suffer for it? This is stupid!

Jason is mad at Phoebe for stripping in front of everyone. Well to be fair Jason she hardly stripped; that’d sort of imply that she had clothes covering her to begin with.

Phoebe: Oh, don't beg. I stared at my killer right in the eye. So much more dignified way to die.
Really? ‘Cause there was an awful lot of terrified screaming in that vision earlier.

Here come Paige and Poncho-Action Piper.

Wow those swarm demons have terrible aim. There’s like four of them throwing fire balls at the sisters who aren’t moving from the spot or even hiding and somehow every single attack is a miss.

Paige looks annoyed/concerned that Jason got the potion from Richard. Well let’s be honest guys, you weren’t exactly doing that great a job yourselves.

Richard has crazy eyes, because he has a problem with magic, didn’t you know?

Leo: After all, well aware is half there.
Shut up Leo!

I must admit, this last scene between Phoebe and Jason is pretty well acted and quite sad.

Jason: I don't know. Maybe we should just both take some time.
Pfft, nice try Jason, you’re not coming back. Don’t worry though, you’ll be having lots of steamy doctor sex on ABC before you know it.

[Chrisaholic]

What also got me in that episode? Jason said they were together for 15(!!!) months when Wyatt isn't even a year old yet? Can't you people count anymore? Think for once!!! Plus, the whole relationship had started AFTER Wyatt was born.

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I didn't think "Spin City," itself, was that bad of an episode, but the stuff with the Stoopid Majickal Kreatures was SO unnecessary.

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All this talk of Karma, a certain Boy George song comes to my mind (man, I just dated myself here, didn't I).

You can see why I started thinking that the show should be renamed Brad Kern's Playboy Fantasy Hour.

but the stuff with the Stoopid Majickal Kreatures was SO unnecessary.

Yeah, another good episode ruined by these Disney rejects

[Esmeralda]

Jul 3, 2015 16:02:51 GMT -5 @p3nathan said:

Jul 3, 2015 13:44:38 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Are there *any* guys who you like Phoebe with?? Are there *any* guys you like *any* of the Charmed Ones with???

My own answer to that one - Paige and Henry, and Phoebe and Drake, and THAT'S IT!

And like you, that statement has very, very little to do with the guys (who all seemed like the same guy with different names to me, with the exception of Leo and Cole, who both would've been SO much better off if they didn't falling for a Halliwell woman - Leo would still be his angelic self and Cole would still be his demonic self and not WIMPS!) and plenty to do with the Charmed One. Charmed Ones in love just aren't very likeable very often. Oh, every now and then, they surprise us (Piper & Leo at the end of "Astral Monkey" immediately comes to mind...but not very often.

On another topic - I have to stop reading your stuff during my lunchtime, P3Nathan - I laugh much too hard and get too many strange looks!

Hmm, well I'm definitely with you on Paige and Henry and Phoebe and Drake. Paige and Henry were one of the few s8 highlights for me.

For me, it was them and Little Wyatt in Season Eight. In Season Seven it was Phoebs and Drake (note the change in spelling...the first time I saw my Phoebs since "Sleuthing with the Enemy"), Kyra and Zankou!  Well, not totally true.  I was surprised to find out that I actually liked Leo and Piper in the latter episodes of that season.  Too bad that changed when Leo didn't take his sons and walk out on his shrew of a wife during Season 8 when she went right back to treating him like her own little errand boy.

I didn't mind Phoebe and Cole up until season 4 or Piper and Leo in season 1... I completely agree with you on them being better off in the long run without them.

I didn't mind Phoebe and Cole until my Phoebs died when she lied to Prue about vanquishing Cole and became PhoeME.

Agreed totally that when Leo left after "Love Hurts", he should've stayed gone. In the same way, when Phoebe "vanquished" Cole the first time, he should've gone and stayed gone. This is particularly true because then Kern would've had to figure another way to kill off Prue than having it be partially due to PhoeME again putting her lover in front of her sisters and trying to do something that wasn't possible - get rid of part of him with a potion, when that potion should've totally vanquished Cole, since Belthazor and Cole are one and the same.  I wish that had happened, but then the demons would've come in and killed PhoeME...

And yeah, most of the guys were way too similar. When I called Jason an ego-tron robot in one of my notes, I think pretty much all the men after Cole are very much like that; with the exception of Drake.

Amen!

Phoebe and Coop have grown on me, but that's down to their comic book incarnations, I didn't care for them much in season 8.

Not only did I not care for them; I hated them - the Elders actually gave Coop to PhoeME because they felt bad about screwing up her lovelife??? Especially when falling for him made her even more selfish and self-centered? Oh, give me a freakin' break!

But like you, I love Phoebe and Coop in the comics, especially in Season Nine - not Season Ten; that's too much of a Cole-shipper's fantasy that I can't stand, almost as much as Season 8 is Brad Kern's fantasy and "Forever Piper", I mean "Forever Crap", I mean "Forever Charmed" is Piper's.

Haha, I'm so glad they're entertaining people, really glad to hear people enjoying them.

Oh, yes, you most definitely are. You're probably not doing what this thread was supposed to do - attract Chris-fans - but, oh, is it fun for us who hate the sisters and Chris in Sesaon Six! Truly, I enjoy yours more than "Obscurus Lupa Presents Charmed " - hers got boring because it was the same old thing (especially Cole - in case you can't tell, I don't like Cole because the inclusion of him caused the death of Phoebs and the birth of PhoeME - I really don't like anyone who makes me hate the stars of the show, the Charmed Ones, so count Chris, Billie, Christy and all the various slampieces in that category, too.) over and over. I just wish that you could do yours with video the way she did - it would be the hit of Youtube!

And I see I get to read some more!!! Can't wait!

[Esmeralda]

Jul 4, 2015 9:37:27 GMT -5 @p3nathan said:

Right...
Used Karma


She’s going to tell Jason in front of Paige and Richard at the dinner table? Wouldn’t this perhaps be better between the two of them? I get that they want to support her, but I’m not sure surrounding Jason with witches is the best method here.

Richard is suddenly all about karma. Karma this, karma that, he has a karma theme song in the works.

So apparently Phoebe avoids conflict and has done her whole life. Hmm... yeah, I think she does okay to be honest.

Jason: Leo? What are you doing here?
Oh Jason. Thank you for asking that, I thought nobody ever would.

I didn’t mention it before in "Soul Survivor", but I always thought Phoebe redirecting fire/energy balls with empathy was total BS.

Jason fainting. A little over the top, but then I guess it’s meant to be funny.

Ooh Sara McLachlan. I like this song.

I’m no expert on karma (although somehow I doubt the writers are either), but why would Phoebe pay for Richard’s karma? Doesn’t that kinda defeat the purpose of it? Like if you hurt other people, that gives you bad karma, and that bad karma hurts other people because you hurt other people? Yeah, great system!

They think the Swarm Demons could be the ones who get Wyatt. Really? Those stupid guys with the sacks over their heads? You think they’ll be the big threat? Then again, at least Piper has actually paid attention to Chris’ revelation last episode... Leo really doesn’t seem to give a crap.

Jason’s meltdown. Poor guy, the first things on his mind are “Lucky Charmed” and “Nymphs Just Wanna Have Fun”. No wonder he’s breaking!

This is where the episode loses me. I don’t understand how karma possesses someone. I’m ignoring all the karma crap and just pretending she’s possessed by your standard angry spirit.

Just as embarrassing as I remembered. Wasn’t the dance in “Y Tu Mummy Tambien” enough?

Paige: I mean, there's all this unfinished karma just floating around out there waiting to complete its cycle.
I thought that was what reincarnation was for.

Not condoning Richard’s actions here, but really... he messes up a spell: that means he has a problem; he’s losing control. You guys do it: that means it’s a day ending in ‘y’.

Richard is looking to banish a spirit. So she is a spirit. Thank you Richard.

Oh God the dance. How is Alyssa not embarrassed? It’s awful.

It makes me laugh when Phoebe takes the last scarf off her arm and Jason is like “Ah geez!” trying to cover her up. Heh, because that last bit of arm was where she went way over the line haha.

I’d love to know how they dealt with explaining what happened to that auditorium. Actually, no I wouldn’t, I thought I cared for a moment. *cough* moving on.

Piper: What does her karma have to do with Phoebe?
Paige: Well, duplicitous, living a double life... Ring any bells?
Wow, way to leap guys. You’re really determined to make this theme work aren’t ya? It’s failing by the way; this is horrible and you should feel bad.

Phoebe/Hari is in The Swarm lair. Urgh, I wish they’d just kill her. Is it too late to get Prue back?

Phoebe: Well, I was hoping that you would help me create some bad karma for them by, oh, I don't know, maybe killing an innocent.
Okay, again... why would that give THEM bad karma? YOU do something, why would their karma suffer for it? This is stupid!

Jason is mad at Phoebe for stripping in front of everyone. Well to be fair Jason she hardly stripped; that’d sort of imply that she had clothes covering her to begin with.

Phoebe: Oh, don't beg. I stared at my killer right in the eye. So much more dignified way to die.
Really? ‘Cause there was an awful lot of terrified screaming in that vision earlier.

Here come Paige and Poncho-Action Piper.

Wow those swarm demons have terrible aim. There’s like four of them throwing fire balls at the sisters who aren’t moving from the spot or even hiding and somehow every single attack is a miss.

Paige looks annoyed/concerned that Jason got the potion from Richard. Well let’s be honest guys, you weren’t exactly doing that great a job yourselves.

Richard has crazy eyes, because he has a problem with magic, didn’t you know?

Leo: After all, well aware is half there.
Shut up Leo!

I must admit, this last scene between Phoebe and Jason is pretty well acted and quite sad.

Jason: I don't know. Maybe we should just both take some time.
Pfft, nice try Jason, you’re not coming back. Don’t worry though, you’ll be having lots of steamy doctor sex on ABC before you know it.

ROFLMFAO! Oh, P3Nathan, I can't begin to tell you how much I'm enjoying these - and since I'm home and not at work, I can laugh and laugh and not worry about getting strange looks!

Curiosity. Your reviews have been reminding me of something and it finally hit me. Have you ever read Teshik's Retarded Review? It started out as reviews but ended up with him sticking himself into the S8 episodes, telling the sisters exactly what you've been wanting to tell them! I usually don't like it when people put themselves or their dream mate into the story (aka Mary Sue and Gary Stu), but this is totally different. The way Teshik did this with most of S8, I'd love to see you do that with S6!

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Oh cool, that sounds awesome haha. I'll definitely be giving this a read The alternate title for 8x01 has already won me over

Thanks I'm glad you're liking them. Probably watch another tomorrow, let's see what do I have next?
...The Legend of Sleepy Halliwell. Oh boy, hold onto your hats folks, we're goin' to magic school!

Jul 4, 2015 10:30:51 GMT -5 Chrisaholic said:

What also got me in that episode? Jason said they were together for 15(!!!) months when Wyatt isn't even a year old yet? Can't you people count anymore? Think for once!!! Plus, the whole relationship had started AFTER Wyatt was born.

Aw geez, that is terrible. Well spotted, I didn't pick up on that one.

[Esmeralda]

Jul 4, 2015 16:38:16 GMT -5 @p3nathan said:

Oh cool, that sounds awesome haha. I'll definitely be giving this a read The alternate title for 8x01 has already won me over

Isn't that just fantastic??

Thanks I'm glad you're liking them. Probably watch another tomorrow, let's see what do I have next?
...The Legend of Sleepy Halliwell. Oh boy, hold onto your hats folks, we're goin' to magic school!

ROFL! I'll be sure to get to King's Cross Station 9 3/4 and take the Not!Warts Express and meet you there!

Seriously, I actually prefer the one we see in the comics as compared to Hogwarts - that is very simply COOL!  I'd much rather go to school at a bright, light place like that than dark Hogwarts.  Unfortunately that Magic School could only work in animation, not in real life.

That's what I'd still like to see - an animated series with the originals lending their voices...  Do that to Paul Ruditis' Season Nine and WOW!

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An animated series would be terrific. And I completely agree, the way magic school looks in the comics is spectacular. They made it feel far more magical than the show did IMO.

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The Legend of Sleepy Halliwell. Oh boy, hold onto your hats folks, we're goin' to magic school!

Oh boy, I can't wait!

And I completely agree, the way magic school looks in the comics is spectacular. They made it feel far more magical than the show did IMO.

That still doesn't alter the fact that they clearly ripped off Harry Potter.

[Melinda Halliwell]

Jul 5, 2015 0:07:00 GMT -5 @tim66 said:

That still doesn't alter the fact that they clearly ripped off Harry Potter.

Oh definately.

If they had to do something like that then Charmed could've at least put their own spin on it or just not had done that at all.

[Chrisaholic]

Jul 4, 2015 16:38:16 GMT -5 @p3nathan said:

Jul 4, 2015 10:30:51 GMT -5 Chrisaholic said:

What also got me in that episode? Jason said they were together for 15(!!!) months when Wyatt isn't even a year old yet? Can't you people count anymore? Think for once!!! Plus, the whole relationship had started AFTER Wyatt was born.

Aw geez, that is terrible. Well spotted, I didn't pick up on that one.

Yeah, I have a good memory and after seeing it so many times, I could speak with. Anyway, that had always bothered me though. It looked like they had counted the times with the show was NOT on TV. I don't know your American TV schedules, don't forget that fact. You know, mixing real and fantasy life.

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Wasn't there a six month gap in the middle of the season (in the time line of the show, not real life).

[Astral Vision]

There is. I think it happens between Courtship of Wyatt's Father and Hyde School Reunion. A sudden jump to explain why Piper is so far into her pregnancy now that they finally stop hiding Holly's pregnancy.

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While I don't doubt for a moment that Charmed shamelessly jumped on Harry Potter's success at the time... the idea of a school/academy for magic wasn't exactly brand new when Harry Potter came out, so I've never been quite as hard on them for Magic School as some viewers.
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Yep that's right, she does the deed with Leo in "Courtship" and then boom, baby belly revealed immediately next episode... not that they were really fooling anybody up till then.

[Esmeralda]

Yeah, she does the deed in the alley of all places. Just another ploy to make us feel sorry for poor, poor pitiful Chris, so very much his mother's son.

[adzpower]

I always thought Chris was an interesting mix of Prue and Piper's personalities.
He got all the good from Prue, all the bad from Piper.

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I've never been quite as hard on them for Magic School as some viewers.

I'm afraid I can't be so forgiving. 

It was just the timing of it all.  For five seasons, there was no hint that this Magic School even existed.  Then the Harry Potter movies started raking it in at the box office and before you can say "Bibbity-boppity-boo" there's Magic School! 

I'm sorry, but no one will ever convince me that this was a Harry Potter rip-off.  The timing was just too damned close.

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Jul 5, 2015 17:06:23 GMT -5 @tim66 said:

I'm sorry, but no one will ever convince me that this was a Harry Potter rip-off.  The timing was just too damned close.

I don't disagree. Like I said, I have no doubt they did it when they did due to Harry Potter's success... I just personally find some of the other rip offs Charmed did worse, since the concept of a magic school wasn't particularly original to begin with.

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The Legend of Sleepy Halliwell

At the pre-school. Urgh the uber-mother gets on my nerves, so already I’m annoyed.

Piper: Yeah, well, you know, he's not even a year old yet.
He is according to Jason. Thank you Chrisaholic!

Phoebe: What are you talking about? Leo's around all the time.
Piper: Yeah, for Wyatt, but he won't be for the school, he can't be.
Erm yeah, no idea what that’s supposed to mean. Surely being part of Wyatt’s schooling is a part of being there for Wyatt... and not sure why he can’t be if he's around either way.

Oh no, I forgot this was the start of Phoebe’s horrible baby hunt. Can’t believe they stretched this crap over two and half seasons.

Piper: Yeah, but you didn't know you had powers, so it was safe for you to have friends. Your mother didn't have to worry about if you were gonna orb out during a play date or something.
Yet another reason to bind his powers... and right on cue, as if to make my point for me, Wyatt orbs out in front of God knows how many people.

Urgh the stupid talking heads. Decapitation is a quirky comedy tool in Charmed world!

Introduced to Magic School... which I will refer to as Notwarts, since they were too damn lazy to give the place an actual name.

So Leo knows about Notwarts and never mentioned it. In season 4 when they were trying for an inevitably magical baby... didn’t mention it. Baby was born with huge power...didn’t mention it. They look at schools for Wyatt... still doesn’t mention it. Seriously? I know Leo can be a dumbass, but come on!

Piper: I'm talking about our lives. We can't just drop what we're doing every time someone's head comes rolling down the stairs.
The writers can’t possibly be unaware of how horrid she sounds, can they? Her selfishness and lack of care is bordering on sociopathic! No wonder Wyatt went evil and Chris got all kill-happy.

Gideon already bugs me. So he just wanders round invisible?

Oh I’d love to be in Paige’s position with that shape shifting kid. I’d be orbing the cocky little bastard’s molars!

Leo: Still, Wyatt doesn't have to hide his powers. Plus, he's not gonna be all alone.
Piper: No, he'll be surrounded by all the other freaks.
Wow, real nice Piper! Again, can’t imagine how Wyatt ended up with issues.

Piper: You know what I mean. I just want Wyatt to have a normal up bringing. At least as normal as possible. Is that too much to ask for?
YES!!!!!!!! If you refuse to bind his powers, then yes, that is too much to ask for, because he has stupendous powers that he clearly isn’t responsible enough to use yet.

Teacher: These children are the cradle of good magic, its entire future. Without proper guidance, nurturing, they can easily be turned.
Piper: Evil?
Hear that Piper? Guidance and nurturing. So maybe if you don’t shrug off every irresponsible use of magic and refrain from labeling him a freak... he might do a bit better!

Oh here comes the horseman. That’s it Piper, don’t freeze him, just stand right there and wait to get chopped.

So this is the latest method of hiding Holly’s bump. Guess they ran out of ponchos... by “they” I mean the planet.

Piper: Or we can find the little child that conjured the horseman and vanquish it.
*Sigh* Horrid woman.

Chris is having a demon scan for evil... it never was explained how he has so many demon connections like in “My Three Witches”. Couldn’t he just have asked Phoebe to scan him like she did the manticore baby?

Hehe, I just can’t take angry Leo and his snarly face seriously.

Sooo not interested in Phoebe’s Me-Quest.

So nice of the Swarm Demons to stick around for this boring little journey of Pheebs-discovery.

Student: Whoa, it's Piper Halliwell!
Just spend a few more minutes with her, kid; that enthusiasm will die quickly.

An innocent has died so Gideon wants to shut down Notwarts. Great idea Giddy, screw the kids. The best way to ensure safety is for them to have less guidance. Why is everyone on this show so eager to give up all the damn time!?

Paige: Leo!
Gideon: What do you want him for?
Heh. Alright Giddy, I’ll give you that one.

Phoebe: My whole life is about sacrifice. If that's all my future holds, then I don't wanna see it.
Oh crap off!

Phoebe: Uh, I saw children, and my child. And a life without demons. Is that even possible?
A life without demons? Where’d you get that from? You saw like half a minute; it’s not as if you’re battling demons 24 hours a day!

At least Phoebe empathy is useful for once. And in a way that is actual empathy, not some power channeling crap.

I said I thought empathy tapping into powers was BS, well telepathy- even more so. Really don’t see how that works.

Oh here comes the horseman. That’s it Paige, don’t orb out, just stand right there and wait to get chopped. I mean Phoebe didn’t do anything either, but come on, she’s already done one useful thing this episode, that’s gotta be a record this season.

Phoebe: I think she's right, actually, I didn't sense any anger from him, just a lot of sorrow.
Erm, your exact words were: “he’s telepathing a whole lotta rage right now”

They summon the horseman by thinking really hard. I forgot that that was something they could do on those occasions where the writers got bored of spell writing.

We’re in P3 with Ziggy. Man, people in P3 can’t dance for sh*t!

Piper: Yeah, I don't think she's gonna be teaching Wyatt any time soon. Suddenly I'm more concerned about separating him from his family, than raising him as an only child.
Are they really forced to stay there? If so, that seems kinda stupid when they have magical portal doors and loads of them can teleport. Can't see commuting being that big an issue.

So we know about Chris. Good, if I remember correctly, I think things improve a bit from here on out.

Phoebe: Are you Wyatt's little brother?
Chris: Only if I can get Piper and Leo back together in time.
Yeah, oopsie woopsie doopsie, huh Chris? Of all the time travel boo boos, orchestrating your parent’s break up before your conception and potentially erasing yourself from existence is a pretty freaking big one isn’t it?!