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Post by jdpm1991 on Aug 13, 2015 6:17:57 GMT -5
He's supposed to be the most magical creature ever to be brought into the magical and mortal world, but we've barely seen him use his magic or his powers except a few times in Season 5 and Season 8 and when he was older in Chris Crossed and Imaginary Friends.
Would you had liked to see what made him so powerful compared to the Charmed Ones? I mean what were his powers besides his Warren powers: Telekinesis and his Whitelighter powers: orbing and other random whitelighter powers
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Post by Nimue on Aug 13, 2015 6:32:40 GMT -5
I don't remember Season 5-8 all that well, but I'm pretty sure there were plenty of moments we saw Wyatt's powers. It was actually ridiculous: Wyatt should never have been a Twice Blessed Child and had that many powers. He should have only had Telekinesis, Orbing, Healing and his Force Field. That's more than enough protection for a magical baby. It would also have made him turning evil more interesting, since he wouldn't have been all that powerful.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 6:38:09 GMT -5
Wyatt used a stupendous number of powers. Before he even got out of the womb he was making force-fields, healing, swapping powers, raising the dead, playing with Piper's magic etc. Once he was born we saw him orb stuff, conjure stuff, shrink his parents, turns toys into people.
Honestly I think it was pretty clear how powerful he was.
I never liked that Wyatt could do so much... at least not so early anyway. I was looking forward to seeing a witch baby develop over time...but instead he was crazy powerful before he was even born.
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Post by Sadrick on Aug 13, 2015 7:42:31 GMT -5
Wyatt used a stupendous number of powers. Before he even got out of the womb he was making force-fields, healing, swapping powers, raising the dead, playing with Piper's magic etc. Once he was born we saw him orb stuff, conjure stuff, shrink his parents, turns toys into people. Honestly I think it was pretty clear how powerful he was. I never liked that Wyatt could do so much... at least not so early anyway. I was looking forward to seeing a witch baby develop over time...but instead he was crazy powerful before he was even born. Exactly this. Wyatt somehow became overpowered the moment he was conceived. If you want my opinion, the only ones who could challenge his authority are the Source, Cole (after leaving the Wasteland), the Charmed Ones, and the Avatars. Two of those entities aren't even alive anymore and the others are weakened in some way.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 13, 2015 8:00:18 GMT -5
Wyatt used a stupendous number of powers. Before he even got out of the womb he was making force-fields, healing, swapping powers, raising the dead, playing with Piper's magic etc. Once he was born we saw him orb stuff, conjure stuff, shrink his parents, turns toys into people. Honestly I think it was pretty clear how powerful he was. I never liked that Wyatt could do so much... at least not so early anyway. I was looking forward to seeing a witch baby develop over time...but instead he was crazy powerful before he was even born. Exactly this. Wyatt somehow became overpowered the moment he was conceived. If you want my opinion, the only ones who could challenge his authority are the Source, Cole (after leaving the Wasteland), the Charmed Ones, and the Avatars. Two of those entities aren't even alive anymore and the others are weakened in some way. Given that post, I'm very curious to see how you would respond to this thread: thecharmedcafe.proboards.com/thread/9012/top-most-powerful-beings-charmedI'll repeat my first post from over there here and then let you and others decide if they want to read the rest of the thread or not. I kept editing mine as others convinced me that my original one needed editing.
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Post by Sadrick on Aug 13, 2015 9:24:06 GMT -5
Exactly this. Wyatt somehow became overpowered the moment he was conceived. If you want my opinion, the only ones who could challenge his authority are the Source, Cole (after leaving the Wasteland), the Charmed Ones, and the Avatars. Two of those entities aren't even alive anymore and the others are weakened in some way. Given that post, I'm very curious to see how you would respond to this thread: thecharmedcafe.proboards.com/thread/9012/top-most-powerful-beings-charmedI'll repeat my first post from over there here and then let you and others decide if they want to read the rest of the thread or not. I kept editing mine as others convinced me that my original one needed editing. What is the criteria for listing these characters? Are we accounting for intelligence or just power? Generally when I see listings like this it's in reference to how they fare in direct confrontation. For example, I think for beings such as Barbas, people believe that his power of persuasion makes him unstoppable because it allows him to control what others do, regardless who or what are. If that were so, Rex could have had the sisters strip each other of their powers then kills themselves without having to dirty his own hands. It's what many call a no-limits fallacy where something that had no weaknesses shown means there aren't any. And if Prue from early Season 1 was able to overcome his powers, what would prevent anything else from doing so as well? The Nexus was destroyed with a spell cast by the Charmed Ones. It's a specific weakness, but I wouldn't put it at the top of the list (the Hollow might belong there). As for the Source, it took the entire Halliwell line to vanquish him. Were it not for plot induced stupidity, he would have remembered that he has a myriad of powers that can be used to easily kill the sisters like setting them aflame with an eye expression. That's what these characters suffer from most is stupidity on behalf of the writers because otherwise there would be no conflict or tension.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 13, 2015 9:41:06 GMT -5
Well, the Halliwell line isn't much - that's just Patty and the sisters - even Grams isn't a Halliwell, she's a Johnson. Had they called the Matriarchs who appear and help out as they do for Wyatt's wiccaning, then I'd agree with you regarding him, but as is, it was just saying a spell, not actually tapping into that power.
As for the rest, you definitely have your point. Great job.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Aug 13, 2015 13:34:21 GMT -5
No Wyatt had too many in my opinion already.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 23:10:01 GMT -5
For me, no. I wasn't that enamored with Wyatt's endless powers. He made the show 'Twice Blessed' instead of 'Charmed'. I think he should've just had his forcefield and that's it.
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Post by West on Aug 25, 2015 1:41:33 GMT -5
No. He had too many as it is. Id rather see the charmed ones original powers grow for sure.
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Post by kristen2193 on Sept 11, 2015 18:21:59 GMT -5
I would have liked for it to be stated exactly how much he can do. Unless I'm forgetting something, we were only ever showed that he could do everything he tried. It would have been nice if we knew what he COULDN'T do. I actually would love it if we were shown that he was horrible at potion making! I think it would have make him more sympathetic as an adult. It also would have been hilarious!
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 11, 2015 18:25:14 GMT -5
I would have liked for it to be stated exactly how much he can do. Unless I'm forgetting something, we were only ever showed that he could do everything he tried. It would have been nice if we knew what he COULDN'T do. I actually would love it if we were shown that he was horrible at potion making! I think it would have make him more sympathetic as an adult. It also would have been hilarious! Piper's son horrible at potion-making! Oh, that would've been great fun - especially if Chris or Prudence Melinda were very good at it!
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Post by kristen2193 on Sept 11, 2015 18:40:45 GMT -5
I would have liked for it to be stated exactly how much he can do. Unless I'm forgetting something, we were only ever showed that he could do everything he tried. It would have been nice if we knew what he COULDN'T do. I actually would love it if we were shown that he was horrible at potion making! I think it would have make him more sympathetic as an adult. It also would have been hilarious! Piper's son horrible at potion-making! Oh, that would've been great fun - especially if Chris or Prudence Melinda were very good at it! Yes exactly! I want to know how Piper would feel about it as well! Chris and Prudence Melinda would probably tease him endlessly. "You may be Twice Blessed but at least we can make a potion without blowing up the kitchen or turning green!"
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Post by alexinho on May 8, 2016 19:57:25 GMT -5
Hi. I'm currently at episode 10 in season 8 and I was wondering... why don't they use Wyatt's healing power?? I understand that they don't want to traumatize him, but when it's life threatening, they could make an exception. For example, in episode 10, Leo had a car accident (regardless of what happened next), but the sisters don't even think of Wyatt's power option. It's a bit ridiculous. Sorry if you have already discussed it in the past.
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Post by lordumbrex on Aug 15, 2016 0:51:22 GMT -5
I wish he would have been limited to six powers, my thought process in this is he has three Charmed Ones powers and three Whitelighter powers to continue with the triple theme in Charmed. Being the first born, he'd have Prue's main power, and since he's Piper's son, he'd have both of his mother's powers, and then three of his father's powers. This also coincides with the twice-blessed aspect.
1) Telekinesis 2) Molecular Immobilization 3) Molecular Combustion 1) Orbing 2) Healing 3) Glamouring
Boom. With that, he is immensely powerful, but still limited.I don't like him with premonitions for some reason, never really have, perhaps because I like the idea of the Source's Heir having that power from his Charmed heritage more.
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Post by adzpower on Aug 15, 2016 9:22:09 GMT -5
I wish he'd used them less tbh, I wanted to watch a show about The Charmed Ones not their baby.
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Post by ljones on Aug 17, 2016 19:05:29 GMT -5
I'm still wondering about just how powerful Wyatt really was. If Chris' telekinesis was strong enough to hurt him in the alternate future seen in "Chris-Crossed", what was the point in making him so powerful?
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Post by Chrisaholic on Aug 18, 2016 9:32:53 GMT -5
I think both adult Wyatt and Chris had telekinesis as they fought in "Chris Crossed" and both used it on each other. As a baby already, Wyatt was powerful and even in the womb, as Chris had once complained. I guess he received the powers which should have been for Phoebe's and Cole's baby. At least, according to the Seer but that's only a thought here.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Aug 18, 2016 17:31:39 GMT -5
All Wyatt needed was his forcefield, orbing and healing at pinch which would've sufficed. Of course had Piper bound Wyatt's powers when he first missused them which she should've done then no one would be having this conversation would they.
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Post by lordumbrex on Aug 18, 2016 22:15:22 GMT -5
The real issue with Wyatt? The power creep in the entire show was the reason he had so many powers. I mean, look at random witches they introduced later on, they each had a dozen powers it seemed like. Don't even get me started on Richard.
If Wyatt was introduced in season 2 or 3, I have no doubt he'd have a lot less.
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