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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2015 11:47:48 GMT -5
I agree he wouldn't want to outlive his children and wife, but we have no proof that he gave up his powers. For all we know, he could have waited until after the children were born before clipping his wings so they'd be more powerful. We just have no evidence of him clipping his wings. And, we have no proof that he DIDN'T give up his powers, either. That's the point. These are ALL fanon assumptions, and not one is more "right" than the other. If you want to write about the Power of Nine SuperBrats, go on right ahead. It doesn't contradict anything depicted in the show, so you're in the clear. However, don't get angry if other people envision a far less Mary Sue-filled future than you do. Stories like Destined and Tim's Rex & Hannah Chronicles are just as consistent with the show, despite going in a completely different direction. |
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Post by tristancloud on Sept 29, 2015 2:17:53 GMT -5
He had his powers at the finale of Charmed. Therefore him retaining his powers IS canon. There is no proof, no evidence, no hinting whatsoever that he will give up his powers anytime soon.
It's not that I'm necessarily writing fanfiction of the Charmed Offspring, but I have a bit of an imagination and it's fun to imagine scenarios that could play out. As far as imagining demon fights for the Charmed offspring, it's fairly easy to assume Paige's children will have similar powers to her, and Piper's daughter will have normal warren powers. However Phoebe's children will have powers we've never seen before and those unseen powers are something I've taken an interest in.
And while I don't consider the comics to be canon either, the comics are endorsed by CBS which owns the rights to Charmed. Therefore you shouldn't be surprised if some people do consider it canon. While I haven't read all the comics, I do choose to believe certain aspects of them. Such as Phoebe getting her powers of levitation and empathy back, her children having cupid/witch hybrid powers, etc.
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Post by sol on Sept 29, 2015 11:05:16 GMT -5
As mentioned above, you'ld dream what you want but don't talk about canon: canon is what the cupid told of his nature in Heartbreak City: every powers of the cupids is linked to their ring. Nothing more
Coop had a ring and when Dumain took his ring he was not to be able to hear Phoebe's call
It's true that Coop appeared in the Manor without the ring, maybe some cupid-colleague helped him, it's a thoery but based on the knowledge of the lack of the cupids's powers
Again,why the amazing story of three sisters who are witches it'ld turn into the story of three good makers of powerful legions of children?
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Post by tristancloud on Sept 29, 2015 15:08:28 GMT -5
The Cupid in Heartbreak City is not Coop. Coop teleported on his own without the help of a ring. That alone proves he possesses powers of his own. The ring amplifies these powers which allows him to do more (such as freezing time, telekinesis, time travel, and listening to their hearts), but we know he can at least teleport on his own. If you'll notice, whenever a cupid teleports other people (or if someone using a cupid ring is teleporting them) a heart always appears on the one doing the teleporting. Even if a colleague helped him teleport without teleporting there with him (which they've never shown that ability, only whitelighters have) there wouldn't have been a heart that appeared on Coop. Coop has powers of his own, end of story. This is Canon. You can imagine other possible ways he got there if you don't want to believe it, but it is definitely Canon.
It's no secret that the Charmed Offspring will take their Mothers' places in fighting demons. That is also canon. Therefore its simply fun to picture them fighting demons together because we never saw that onscreen. No they won't be as powerful as the Charmed ones or Wyatt, but I do believe they will be stronger then you're average witch. It was awesome seeing Wyatt kill those 3 demons in Imaginary Friends and to see Wyatt and Chris making a potion together in Forever Charmed. Those were the only glimpses we got, and I personally want to fill in the blanks with my own ideas. I don't see what the harm of that is.
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Post by sol on Sept 30, 2015 3:20:13 GMT -5
Ok maybe it's better if I give up on this conversation by now boring
As I formerly told, in Heartbreak City the cupid told of their nature and Coop is a cupid exactly the same as the ohters cupids: if he is a Super Extra Cupid, no one has ever told us
About "the Charmed Offspring will take their Mothers' places in fighting demons" I never though of the Charmed One as warriors born to fight demons, I love them as normal women that help the innocents
Indeed, neither Piper nor Phoebe and Paige have never been eager to fight the demons, maybe Prue, surely that ditz of Billie: they were witches, not supernatural soldiers
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Post by tristancloud on Sept 30, 2015 3:47:07 GMT -5
Drazi: Your little magic ring you use to slip in there between the heart beats, plant your little thoughts of love"
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Cupid: "Drazi took my ring. It's my powers, how I get in.
Prue: Get in?
Cupid: People's hearts, to awaken love.
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I never claimed the he didn't need the ring to awaken love and listen to their hearts. In fact that's exactly what I said he needed the ring for. Sure this cupid didn't have the power to teleport on his own, but we know very little about Cupids. For all we know some cupids are born, and some are chosen like whitelighters. Maybe some are born with cupid powers and others have to rely on the ring for everything. Just like there are Elders and whitelighters, maybe there are stronger cupids with more abilities. Or maybe the cupid in heartbreak city simply hadn't learned to teleport on his own yet. I don't know why you bother to fight this because nothing will change the fact that we see Coop teleport with his powers alone.
Patty was killed fighting a demon, Penny was referred to as a demon killer in Witchstock and the Charmed ones fought demons as well. Piper says in her final speech that their children would take over. It doesn't mean that they won't live normal lives, or try to live normal lives. But they will definitely be fighting demons.
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Post by sol on Sept 30, 2015 11:43:51 GMT -5
Now I understand better the meaning of that interview that I quoted, where Shannen said that Spelling and Vincent wanted to turn "Charmed" in a program to twelve years old!
Warriors fighting demons and full of wonderful powers, Xena plus Heroes plus Wonder Woman plus nine children as Tabatha,that is what some sort of fans dreamed!
With all its faults, Charmed was bigger and better than that wished show!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 15:18:25 GMT -5
He had his powers at the finale of Charmed. Therefore him retaining his powers IS canon. There is no proof, no evidence, no hinting whatsoever that he will give up his powers anytime soon. And, there's NO evidence to him keeping his powers, either. We NEVER saw him use them in the flash-forward!  And while I don't consider the comics to be canon either, the comics are endorsed by CBS which owns the rights to Charmed. Therefore you shouldn't be surprised if some people do consider it canon. While I haven't read all the comics, I do choose to believe certain aspects of them. Such as Phoebe getting her powers of levitation and empathy back, her children having cupid/witch hybrid powers, etc. Officially-licensed =/= canon. Otherwise, the Star Wars Extended Universe would still be considered Star Wars canon. Paul Ruditis said that people can choose whether or not to take the comics as canon, so you have every right to do so. But, DON'T take offense when other people don't do the same thing! Now I understand better the meaning of that interview that I quoted, where Shannen said that Spelling and Vincent wanted to turn "Charmed" in a program to twelve years old! Warriors fighting demons and full of wonderful powers, Xena plus Heroes plus Wonder Woman plus nine children as Tabatha,that is what some sort of fans dreamed! Tell me about it. The magical Brady Bunch was the last thing I ever wanted from Charmed. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 17:33:36 GMT -5
That's what you get when you have two Old White Guys who instruct their writers to write like it was still the Eisenhower Administration. Charmed would have been right at home among the likes of Leave It To Beaver and The Adventures Of Ozzie and Harriet.
As I said, the Rex and Hannah Chronicles do not acknowledge the comics. This isn't because I think they're bad, no, I just don't consider them canon. That's all.
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Post by tristancloud on Oct 6, 2015 0:00:05 GMT -5
We also never see Phoebe, Piper, Wyatt or Chris use their powers either. Does this mean they all stripped their powers? Are Wyatt and Chris having to resort to potions because they have no powers? We also never see old Paige and Phoebe, or Wyatt and Chris at an age where they could have children as old as the ones shown in the flash forward. Are we to assume to Paige, Phoebe, Wyatt, and Chris all died right after their flash forward scenes because we don't see them old? Maybe we see Piper and Leo taking care of these children because Wyatt and Chris are dead. Just because we don't see something in the flash forward, doesn't mean we should automatically assume that because something isn't seen, it isn't there. Such as their powers. Coop's included.
I just said I don't consider them canon either. So therefore I don't take offense when other people do the same thing I do... Not sure why you'd think I'd do otherwise.
We already saw a family of 13 in the Charmed universe. (Penny, Patty, Victor, Sam, Prue, Piper, Phoebe, Paige, Wyatt, Chris, Leo, Henry, and Coop). I don' t think it'd be too much of a stretch from what we saw to focus on their children at different times as well.
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Post by adzpower on Oct 6, 2015 6:26:24 GMT -5
Well since their mother is a Warren witch is stands to reason that Phoebe's daughters would have one of the three Warren powers no?
Telekinesis, Freezing or Premonition like their mother.
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Post by sol on Oct 6, 2015 10:16:44 GMT -5
They'ld have all three the same power, the Warren dynasty respected the prophecy, the Charmed One were born, then there is no more need that their powers had to increase
Thinking of Phoebe's empathic skills and of Coop's sensitivity to the feelings, they'ld be empathic witches with the ease of seeing the future
Phoebe's talent for writing spells could turn into an attitude to writing for one of the girls, I'ld like better thinking of those girls as a writer, a school counselor, a psychologist instead of three supergilrs rotating between hearts
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Post by tristancloud on Oct 9, 2015 4:07:19 GMT -5
Yeah it is very possible that they could simply inherit one of the core 3 warren powers, but there is also Phoebe's levitation and Empathy to consider as well. The main curiosity of mine was how their powers could be effected by the inherited love powers by Coops. Such as being able to bring demons under their control by using love as a weapon. As sol said about Phoebe's empathic powers and Coop's sensitivity to feelings, I definitely think empathy or even telepathy would have been a possibility for them.
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