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Post by rebooted on Jul 29, 2017 21:30:47 GMT -5
I wonder what they had planned if Holly wasn't pregnant with Chris. Also taking into account that Season 4 was altered heavy due to Shannen leaving and not wondering if season 5 would happen. If things flowed organically, we might have seen the Cole/Source storyline taking place in season 5, ending with Cole's death in the 100th episode (which I would of approved 100% over what we got with Cole in Season 5), and The Seer being the big bad for the rest of the season. That's what would've happened had Shannen not been fired obviously. I would have preferred Cole staying dead in LLTQ and Season 5 taking a lighter angle like Season 2. If on top of this Piper gave birth to Melinda, and Phoebe would have come back to being PhoeMe and Paige remained a Social Worker, it could have possibly been one of the best written seasons of Charmed. |
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Post by Olga Halliwell on Oct 23, 2017 20:33:32 GMT -5
Season 6, very poorly written season. Very poorly written characters Chris, Piper, Phoebe.
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Post by cyma on Oct 29, 2017 16:16:26 GMT -5
After much much consideration, I’m gonna award season 6 as the worst Charmed season. By season 8, Charmed had fallen to such embarrassing and cringe worthy depth that it was hard to expect anything good from it. So wigs, black leather, flying back-flips, return of whiny Source, Elders concern about Phoebe’s biological clock and a whole CGI scene dedicated to a guy sending an email? Totally and completely normal! As for season 6, there was still hope because the saving Wyatt storyline could potentially make it a good season if not best. There was a bit of hope for slightly good character development for the sisters and great acting for the actresses compared to season 5. Sadly, Kern and the writers just pulled down their pants and took a huge steaming dump on all those naive little hopes  If I had to write summaries of season 6 episodes according to the majority of the things they focused on: Unless Wyatt got traumatized and turned by Charmed Ones' obsession with dating, sex and having a man in their lives, what was the point of all the obsessive over focus on sex and relationships? Whether Piper/Leo, Richard/Paige or Jason/Phoebe they were as interesting as a wet blanket and as pointless as the existence of cockroaches. How is sleeping with Richard and Jason or their mere presence in the sisters’ lives relevant to saving Wyatt and the whole future that is threatened by him being so powerful? Did Jason and Richard being both rich and powerful join Wyatt? Were they somehow responsible for Charmed One's deaths? Or were they part of the resistance against Wyatt and sheltering witches with the resources and influence they had? Where was Leo's useless ass in all of this? Instead of those answers, we got things like a bull-dog humping Paige's leg, a green CGI monster and a useless Grams episode that murders and burns continuity, crappy Tyrannosaurus Rex and five minute orgasms, the worst version of being under a spell since Prue and Phoebe got high on fairydust: happy, sunny, bright and idiotic Phoebe and Paige. Phoebe wanting to move to Hong Kong because....who cares? Unless some major event takes place in Hong Kong relating to Wyatt conquering the world…seriously what is the point? And speaking of more pointless….empathy! Or should it be humpathy? Sexpathy? Hornypathy? It appears to be mostly used in all those context. How about doing something useful like trying it on Future Wyatt hoping to save him? Or some future-flashback of Future Phoebe trying empathy on Wyatt hoping to snap him out of it like she snapped Piper out of it when she was a Valkyrie. But nope, sticking her tongue down Jason’s throat and mauling him and basically annoying everyone with her new power, that’s more important. I don’t understand why they don’t just go ahead and rename ‘Charmed Season 6’ to ‘Charmed Season Sex’  |
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Post by Elle Em on Oct 30, 2017 15:11:51 GMT -5
Cyma, thank you for that. I laughed so many times reading it, and I could never hope to say it better.
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Post by cyma on Oct 31, 2017 6:30:02 GMT -5
Cyma, thank you for that. I laughed so many times reading it, and I could never hope to say it better. Welcome  I can't believe I forgot to include the eye burning wardrobe choices, then there was Magic School, Cleaners and Tribunal. Oh Phoebe getting high and going on a vision quest in Magic School. A vision quest of utmost importance. Where all the answers would be revealed. Where she finds out that Wyatt is…. Playing video games! And not sharing! How world-destroying and apocalyptically evil!  And she’s pregnant! And there’s Little Chris telling her he needs her help. Which Phoebe provides by going on a sperm donor quest. Looking back at earlier not sucky seasons, Phoebe's had only one sex premonition. One. She had sex dreams, but gasp! There was a whole succubus killing men plot behind it. A logical reason rather than putting it there for a few cheap laughs. And sure there was the wanting to find a man by using a spell. And she had lots of safe sex with the guy, but at the end of the day there were consequences of him becoming violent crazy. But best part is, the way those things were done, none of it was cringe worthy. Besides better writing, another reason is the sisters especially Phoebe, they didn't start discussing their sex/love life or problems with husbands when they were supposed to be having a discussion on demons and making plans. What was extremely annoying was when they did it in front of their innocents who were already shaken or traumatized from their experience with the supernatural with the added stress of their lives being in danger. Take for example Love's a Witch. When Richard and Olivia's families were gathered in the room for a séance, Phoebe suddenly and loudly moans until Piper tells her to shut it. Phoebe then gives what I could only describe as a crap-eating grin as she explains her moronic behavior to Piper infront of the bereaved families Her empathy managed to only catch tension in the room. But nothing like grief or pain of lost loved ones. Nor anger and betrayal at the other party for losing them. Nothing Phoebe herself went through to empathize or relate to, especially after losing her mother and sister  How is this creature the same woman who did everything in her power to find two boys who the Grimlocks kidnapped? Her behavior was nothing but respectful when she dealt with the guy who had fallen victim to Grimlocks attack many years ago in order to find the two boys. Even though I dislike Phoebe turning her back on Cole at the end of Exit Strategy, atleast she did everything in her power to help Cole of all people when he went undercover to thwart Brotherhood's plan. Also while she was unwilling to let Prue die but knew she had to otherwise world would end, she did everything in her power which included working with what she believed were demons to bring Prue back. So I fail to understand how Phoebe had been so totally chill and not researching and doing everything she could possibly think of like a mad woman for her nephew and the world's safety? Rather than using her premonitions powers on every demon, warlock, evil witch and spirit out there to figure out if they’re a threat to Wyatt or not, she used them to find the husband of her future child on speed dates. Instead of somehow trying to use empathy to amplify her premonition powers to see 20 years in the future and find more information about Wyatt’s turning, she's moaning and complaining loudly about how loud everyone’s feelings are. Just wow. And episodes focused on Piper and Paige's sex toys. I guess Future Wyatt bought these toys to life to serve in his army to take over the world Had Charmed been mainly comedy from start with characters doing idiotic things, these things wouldn't have bothered me. But unfortunately, it wasn't so naturally it's a giant bother. |
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Post by Elle Em on Oct 31, 2017 7:19:42 GMT -5
I agree. Contrasting their stupidest behavior from season 1 or 2 compared to the same behavior in a later season, and it's unbelievably different. It feels like a different show.
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Post by Ruth Marie on Oct 31, 2017 7:40:37 GMT -5
I agree. Contrasting their stupidest behavior from season 1 or 2 compared to the same behavior in a later season, and it's unbelievably different. It feels like a different show. It really does. 100% agree. olga halliwell came up with a great theory for why the sisters changed so much in the later seasons in another thread. That them dying and being resurrected, they never brought them back from the dead completely themselves, and each time they die, and come back the worse they are. From another thread That is true, Phoebe I found annoying when she was always desperate for a man or a child. But Piper just was the worst, and at least at times I found the Phoebe I loved was back in the odd episode or two. But with Piper, she got to a point that I was cheering for the demons to kill her, yet she always was the one sister who somehow survives on a number of occasions. Guess they were mocking me. LOL I just don't know what happened to Piper. She was a completely different person earlier on compared to the one later. Maybe the writing team that wrote her the best disappeared, and they didn't keep consistency and they always ended up out of character too often. Maybe the consequences for bringing Piper back to life in Awakened and Coyote Piper altered her in a way. LOL Maybe that is a way to explain the sisters change, the constant resurrections never fully brought the sisters back completely. The more you die and come back over and over, you never come back completely you. The show always made a point about personal gain and consequences, maybe they did have some consequences with how many times they came back to life. A fun little explanation I made up to explain things. Oh! I've never heard that theory before, but I do believe you're onto something! Great job! And since Piper died the most often and came back to life the most often, of course, she was the one who changed the most - and all of it for the worst. I'd add that to your theory - they became worse each time after they died. I really never like Piper after she died in 'Awakened' -she *so* should have stayed dead after that! |
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Post by Hexenwerk on Feb 20, 2018 23:39:05 GMT -5
The rankings represented in the poll essentially reflect my own judgement of the seasons.
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Feb 25, 2018 18:31:21 GMT -5
For me it's like this: Season 8, Season 6, Season 7, Season 2, Season 1, Season 3, Season 5 and Season 4. Season 4 was my favourite |
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Post by Sasha on Feb 25, 2018 18:48:20 GMT -5
Season 6. The season that almost made me give up on Charmed for good.
What happened to the show?
Every single character is unlikable. This is the one season I wished was unseen 100%. I can't stand the way they all acted. So many horrible episodes, from Sword and the City, Hyde School Reunion or Witchstock.
Sorry to Chris fans, but I don't like it at all. It still makes gives me chills.
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Post by rebooted on Feb 26, 2018 2:50:58 GMT -5
Season 6. The season that almost made me give up on Charmed for good. What happened to the show? Every single character is unlikable. This is the one season I wished was unseen 100%. I can't stand the way they all acted. So many horrible episodes, from Sword and the City, Hyde School Reunion or Witchstock. Sorry to Chris fans, but I don't like it at all. It still makes gives me chills. I agree. Little Monsters is one of my only likes in Season 6. I just wonder if the writers went into panic mode when Alyssa went pixie and Rose went blonde and they were like...... what do we do?  ?? ahhhh, Magic School and Mata Hari! |
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Post by Sasha on Feb 26, 2018 3:28:01 GMT -5
Season 6. The season that almost made me give up on Charmed for good. What happened to the show? Every single character is unlikable. This is the one season I wished was unseen 100%. I can't stand the way they all acted. So many horrible episodes, from Sword and the City, Hyde School Reunion or Witchstock. Sorry to Chris fans, but I don't like it at all. It still makes gives me chills. I agree. Little Monsters is one of my only likes in Season 6. I just wonder if the writers went into panic mode when Alyssa went pixie and Rose went blonde and they were like...... what do we do? ?? ahhhh, Magic School and Mata Hari! I liked that episode, might be one of the few I enjoyed in season 6. I wonder if that might have been what happened. Magic School, Mata Hari, Valyries, Dirty Blondes, The female demon group (forgot the episode) that happened late in season 6. What were they thinking? Not sure I can ever rewatch this season ever again except a few episodes I liked. Too many bad memories. |
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Post by cyma on Feb 26, 2018 11:04:38 GMT -5
I wonder if that might have been what happened. Magic School, Mata Hari, Valyries, Dirty Blondes, The female demon group (forgot the episode) that happened late in season 6. The blonde female demon group was called....Demonatrix. They were led by the evil version of Paige's sex toy, Vincent Wrong. Episode is called, 'A Wrong Day's Journey Into Right'. |
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Post by cyma on Feb 26, 2018 11:38:10 GMT -5
I just wonder if the writers went into panic mode when Alyssa went pixie and Rose went blonde and they were like...... what do we do? ?? ahhhh, Magic School and Mata Hari! Wish they panicked and done a Future pixie cut Phoebe and blonde Paige forming a resistance against Wyatt and also forming secret shelters to protect witches, humans and other beings on Wyatt's elimination list. Something like Leo did in Morality Bites for people and witches to protect from witch hunters. Although his belief to let Phoebe get burned at stake because it would end the madness of witch hunting sounded delusional. Pratt said he would go after other witches after setting Phoebe ablaze. But a difference in opinion on how to save the world and Wyatt between Paige and Phoebe would have been so so much better than fighting over whether Dex is a cheater or Richard is going bonkers. Or even Cole is going evil again and wants Phoebe back bickering. |
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Post by Ruth Marie on Feb 26, 2018 17:42:52 GMT -5
I just wonder if the writers went into panic mode when Alyssa went pixie and Rose went blonde and they were like...... what do we do? ?? ahhhh, Magic School and Mata Hari! Wish they panicked and done a Future pixie cut Phoebe and blonde Paige forming a resistance against Wyatt and also forming secret shelters to protect witches, humans and other beings on Wyatt's elimination list. Something like Leo did in Morality Bites for people and witches to protect from witch hunters. Although his belief to let Phoebe get burned at stake because it would end the madness of witch hunting sounded delusional. Pratt said he would go after other witches after setting Phoebe ablaze. But a difference in opinion on how to save the world and Wyatt between Paige and Phoebe would have been so so much better than fighting over whether Dex is a cheater or Richard is going bonkers. Or even Cole is going evil again and wants Phoebe back bickering. Now that would make a great story with Phoebe and Paige forming a resistance against Wyatt. |
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Post by Sasha on Feb 26, 2018 18:24:42 GMT -5
I wonder if that might have been what happened. Magic School, Mata Hari, Valyries, Dirty Blondes, The female demon group (forgot the episode) that happened late in season 6. The blonde female demon group was called....Demonatrix. They were led by the evil version of Paige's sex toy, Vincent Wrong. Episode is called, 'A Wrong Day's Journey Into Right'. Thank you cyma. I can see why I forgot, blocking out that bad episode from my memory. |
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Feb 26, 2018 18:46:42 GMT -5
It's sad cause I really like Chris but after season 5, Charmed did seem to lose it's touch. S1-5 were all about protecting the innocent and S6 threw that out of the window, especially Hyde School Reunion. That's probably my least favorite episode ever - because it threw Morality Bites out the window. They're supposed to protect the innocent, not punish the guilty, Phoebs do you want to be burnt at the stake? Paige didn't learn that lesson but you did. Geez.
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Post by Sasha on Feb 26, 2018 19:11:39 GMT -5
It's sad cause I really like Chris but after season 5, Charmed did seem to lose it's touch. S1-5 were all about protecting the innocent and S6 threw that out of the window, especially Hyde School Reunion. That's probably my least favorite episode ever - because it threw Morality Bites out the window. They're supposed to protect the innocent, not punish the guilty, Phoebs do you want to be burnt at the stake? Paige didn't learn that lesson but you did. Geez. Hyde School Reunion is on my list of worst episodes ever, and top 5 worst. That episode really was the WORST!!! Might be why I can't regard Morality Bites so highly anymore, because it upsets me so much that what this episode taught the sisters went out the window later. Phoebe lost my respect in S6 the most, she didn't care what she learned from Morality Bites. I know people here might not like S5, but I thoroughly enjoyed many of the episodes, I just didn't care much for Cole in it. S6 was just so bad coming after S5. |
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Feb 26, 2018 19:17:43 GMT -5
I agree. What happened to Phoebe in S6? In S5, I could understand her actions because she went through hell in S4 so her coldness towards Cole was natural and all as I quote Piper in S3 "She's trusted you one too many times" which I think applies more to S4 because she trusted him throughout S3 and S4. Even if I don't like a character's actions, I normally try to find reason to explain why they became that way. The only explanation I have is Phoebe just gave up on true love completely and just regressed as a character.
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Post by cyma on Feb 27, 2018 8:36:38 GMT -5
Wish they panicked and done a Future pixie cut Phoebe and blonde Paige forming a resistance against Wyatt and also forming secret shelters to protect witches, humans and other beings on Wyatt's elimination list. Something like Leo did in Morality Bites for people and witches to protect from witch hunters. Although his belief to let Phoebe get burned at stake because it would end the madness of witch hunting sounded delusional. Pratt said he would go after other witches after setting Phoebe ablaze. But a difference in opinion on how to save the world and Wyatt between Paige and Phoebe would have been so so much better than fighting over whether Dex is a cheater or Richard is going bonkers. Or even Cole is going evil again and wants Phoebe back bickering. Now that would make a great story with Phoebe and Paige forming a resistance against Wyatt. Wouldn't it? It got tiring that practically all the sisters actions, decisions(basically their whole lives) revolving around men and maintaining a relationship with them. Yet it didn't feel that way for Leo and Chris. It was as if they were the only two people involved in the saving Wyatt plot or any sort of character development of their broken father son relationship. Even the end confrontation with Gideon was done solely by Leo on a show which wasn't about him. The Charmed Ones were practically useless and yet again under the influence of stupidity and giggling like morons. In fact the whole world turned into giggling idiots. As if the Prue and Phoebe snorting fairy dust wasn't worst thing that happened in season 3. It's like the writers took the worst parts of the good seasons and amplified it a million times in later seasons. It's like some demon reversed their morality. So writers thought bad was good. Good was bad :-p While I get Piper/Holly had no choice in season 6 finale. But she had a choice in other things before that. Why did she get a season full of meaningless dating subplots instead of a meaningful subplot with her future son? It’s like the writers remembered in Hyde School Reunion that Chris was Piper's son too and there should be some mother son subplot. Then they promptly forgot everything the next episode. Why did we have to suffer yet another Leo/Piper break-up and make-up plot rather than get the answer to the very basic questions like: what happened in the future?!! Even with its flaws, Morality Bites answered more questions in one hour rather than 23 hours of time, money and talent season 6 wasted. |
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I can't believe I forgot to include the eye burning wardrobe choices, then there was Magic School, Cleaners and Tribunal. Oh Phoebe getting high and going on a vision quest in Magic School. A vision quest of utmost importance. Where all the answers would be revealed. Where she finds out that Wyatt is….
