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Post by purelywyatt on Sept 1, 2016 20:03:39 GMT -5
Watching the new 90210 and thinking of a Charmed: Next Generation show could it work? How can it work?
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Post by lordumbrex on Sept 1, 2016 20:21:40 GMT -5
It can't. At least not without Phoebe and Cole's son as an antithesis to Wyatt. He's too powerful. Bring in Phoebe/Cole's son, make him the good one and Wyatt the bad one, and you got yourself a show.
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Post by adzpower on Sept 2, 2016 15:47:14 GMT -5
Only if they were to use completely new characters and not Wyatt. Wyatt is too powerful, who wants to watch a show where the main character can already kill things with one blink from the age of a toddler?!
Make it about Phoebe's kids or perhaps set in the same world but not anything to do with The Charmed Ones and I will be there!
I mean just because Charmed use the rule of three, doesn't mean a new show has too, if they wanted to they could use a big cast, all the kids! There are other shows like The 100 or Grey's Anatomy that have big casts and manage to do the stories justice. Just don't let Kern write it.
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Post by Darkhorse Christian on Sept 3, 2016 12:15:02 GMT -5
There are other shows like The 100 or Grey's Anatomy that have big casts and manage to do the stories justice. Already thinking Agents of SHIELD. |
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Post by sol on Sept 21, 2016 15:19:06 GMT -5
I don't like superhero but a lot of people love Superman and Smallville was a hit show
Moreover, you can't take for granted that Wyatt'ld use his powers, he'ld be afraid and to use them with reluctance
I'ld like a series where Wyatt tries to escape the magical world -the normal life dreamed by Piper - where Chris is an enthusiastic witch like his cousin Prudence, where the young Halliwells are normal withces without whitelighte or cupid powers
The best'ld be a serie based on Wyatt and Chris, but Supernatural seems eternal!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 16:24:47 GMT -5
I agree that Phoebe's children ought to be the focus of any Next Gen spin-off, perhaps even just one of her daughters who has moved from San Francisco and away from her motley crew of all-powerful cousins. Any such show would need to retain an element of danger and also discovery, which is why the main character would be best to be 'isolated' from her family. The premise could be that she is the black sheep of the family and turned her back on magic but when she moves away to college she is drawn to helping Innocents, only her powers and knowledge of the craft is rusty due to years of neglect. She would have to re-learn how to be a witch.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 22, 2016 7:04:52 GMT -5
I agree that Phoebe's children ought to be the focus of any Next Gen spin-off, perhaps even just one of her daughters who has moved from San Francisco and away from her motley crew of all-powerful cousins. Any such show would need to retain an element of danger and also discovery, which is why the main character would be best to be 'isolated' from her family. The premise could be that she is the black sheep of the family and turned her back on magic but when she moves away to college she is drawn to helping Innocents, only her powers and knowledge of the craft is rusty due to years of neglect. She would have to re-learn how to be a witch. I really like this idea, Deano - I've seen something like it before and always thought it would be the best way of doing it. If they decided to make the comics canon by following them in the the spin-off (and much as I dislike S10, my guess is that's what would happen in order for there to be a spin-off - CBS Entertainment which owns the rights to Charmed would want them to be made canon in hopes that more fans would buy them), I think that daughter should be the oldest, PJ aka Prudence Johnna. Especially where she's named after Prue, I can see the others expecting her to be just like Prue and her not liking that (I see her being more like a young Phoebe than a young Prue) which would lead to the scenario you described. What's your reaction towards that? If it was going to be a Charmed Sons one, I'd want to have Piper actually be a good mother and bind all of Wyatt's powers as a child so they wouldn't all go to his head and turn him evil. So he'd be the only Halliwell with no powers making Chris more powerful than him, a turnaround from the parent show. I see the murder of their sister Melinda - using the comic names again - being what spurs them into going into the attic and opening the chest and taking out the Book of Shadows where it's been locked in there after the sisters retire after whatever happens in the last issue of the comics, and finding a different spell at the beginning of of the Book, one that will give two brothers the Power of Two - not as powerful as the Power of Three, of course, but the next-most powerful connection), becoming the Charmed Sons. Chris the powerful one and Wyatt with none (but perhaps better with both potions and spells besides being taller and stronger) could make for a spin-off that would be different than the parent show. If you didn't have the stupid flashforward, I'd prefer this happening after Piper was killed, ending the Charmed Ones, otherwise whenever they run into trouble, they'd go running to Mommy for help, but I guess you can't have everything... What's your reaction towards that? |
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 22, 2016 13:12:35 GMT -5
I'ld like bettere just Wyatt and Chris, no sisters, living in another city, as in the Destined stories
Wyatt in full of his powers and Chris as sixth-season-Chris, to have a strong difference to balance between the two brothers
The success of the first seasons of Supernatural is also based on this kind of differences, the experienced hunter and his little brother with demonic powers that risks losing his humanity
I cherished that Wyatt was born in a magical day which gave him special powers, not the Power of Three but something like it, because it is a classic theme in all the literature, the effort to resist to take advantage of innate traits that can give you enormous power over all the world
Having to imagine a show I'ld like more or less something like this
-Wyatt and Chris are living in New York
Wyatt (since presumably the probes were an his invention) has a degree in electrical engineering and is working with a government security foundation
Chris is still studying, he is in the journalism school, I never thought, like many who write fanfic, he might be a good doctor
-Leo and Piper are happily living in the Manor
-Pheobe'ld have had her first daughter almost immediately, so Prudence is three years younger than Chris and the story begins when she moves to Columbia to study journalism as Chris
She is living in a dorm, she has the gift of foresight and seeks help from her cousins, especially Chris, when there are innocents to save
-Phoebe is living and working in San Francisco, with her other two daughters and Coop
Coop made Leo's choice and works with Phoebe who writes books and runs some blogs
The girls have some Warren power but not cupid power,they are only more intuitive than average
-Paige and Henry are living in Sausalito, in a house with garden and views of the bay, as Henry dreamed
The twins are witches without Whitelighter powers, Henry Jr. is adopted,so he has no powers
They are younger than their cousins, at least 10 years younger than Wyatt
Paige works part time as a social worker
The Charmed Ones and their family'ld be at most guest stars in some episodes
I'ld like the series focused on Wyatt and Chris, with Prudence present in half of the stories, partly because it is difficult to put a female character giving her a strong and independent personality
I'd like this Prudence more similar to her aunt Prue than her mother: concentrated on studies, ambitious and serious about her witch duties
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Post by cyma on Sept 22, 2016 13:45:11 GMT -5
I'm starting to believe a Next Generation show is the only thing which will work, seeing how practically everyone and everything out there screamed bloody murder when a reboot was announced.
There's no need to focus the whole show solely on just three siblings while others just make cameos now and then. If it's about the next generation then make it about all the nine Halliwell kids. Siblings and cousins.
A million shows already pulled off handling large cast of characters so it's completely possible to deal with all nine kids.
Besides the Charmed Ones have already given us the dealing with inheriting PO3 and best sisterly moments so making it about Phoebe's three daughters who become Charmed Ones kinda feels like going into reboot and repititive territory. Same with if the show is about Wyatt and Chris only. Supernatural just pops into mind.
Since too many magical children with too many powers is the problem, besides removing Wyatt's twice blessed status, the solution is to make all three of Paige's kids mortals. If Charmed Ones are the culmination of power of the Halliwell line, then instead of growing stronger, their children should actually be weaker. Wyatt got lucky because of a prophecy of his own. Phoebe's daughters are half-cupids because of Coop. But Paige's children. ..I mean quarter whitelighter sounds strange, lol.
Plus I'll enjoy the irony that Piper who wanted a normal life gets powerful magical children while Paige who loves the magical world, gets completely non-magical kids.
And if possible, the show could dedicate two episodes to the Charmed Moms dealing with Prue's return and an old enemy's return which only they're powerful enough to defeat or something.
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Post by sol on Sept 23, 2016 1:11:04 GMT -5
A twice blessed status didn't exist, it's just an ancient greeting formula, in Spanish medieval literature twice blessed are the children born in the seventh month, for example!
Wyatt was almost 2 months premature, isnt he?
And I can't understand how could Phoebe's girls having cupid powers, when all we know that the cupids are powerless magical being, able to feel the natural affinity between the persons and holders of a magic ring
Maybe the girls'ld become good psychologists
Other than that, I like your idea, I always thought that NG may only work bearing in mind that the Warren line reached the culminationx, the heirs can always be witches but without powers,
apart from Piper's sons, linked to a different ptophecy
I feel the same: Wyatt's power follows from the magical day, Wyatt seems to be able to formulate spells only with his mind, a power more charming than Piper's fire power that he got
Enormous powes are difficult to bear and I'ld like a series based on the contrast between a too powerful witch and his "normal" family
Especially I wish there were less powers, concentrated i Piper's sons, and more space to magic
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Post by purelywyatt on Sept 23, 2016 15:16:20 GMT -5
Personally for me when I think of a Charmed:The Next Generation show I see Brothers & Sisters meets Witches Of East End filled with a very close (sometimes too close) knit family who just happens to be witches. Maybe an old foe comes back and kills one of them setting the family on the path for vengeance and justice but soon finds out that that deceased family member didn't just die cause they were a member of the infamous Halliwell clan but that they discovered something that way it brings a mystery to the series just like how in the 1st season viewers of Witches Of East End were invested to find out who was the shifter. I'll also like to see how a very close knit magical family deals in the mortal world and how they deal with outsiders say like the kids significant others assuming they aren't magical or how those spouses perceive the family. For me also I see a hypothetical Next Generation show being serialized and not demon of the week like it's predecessor or maybe they'll balance the two together. I'll also like to see one of them being gay or sexually fluid maybe Wyatt or one of Paige's daughter idk the possibilities are endless or maybe seeing as the underworld is becoming more organized and calculating the elders see the need for the reconstitution of the Charmed Ones so they transfer the Charmed Status to Phoebe's girl citing that they each possess the powers passed down through their family: Telekinesis, Molecular Immobilization & Clairvoyance. They can also be their own brood of dysfunctional sisters and that they need to smooth out their differences and create a bond to tap into the Power of Three.
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Post by cyma on Sept 24, 2016 14:31:49 GMT -5
I think I might be okay with Phoebe's daughters becoming the new Charmed Ones after Phoebe and Paige are killed and their deaths are irreversible. Considering how many times the sisters come back to life, I would want a villain who would try to correct this whole easily coming back to life thing.
But deaths should happen in future season. Totally want a sort of family being torn apart by blame and accusations scenario to happen after this with some of the kids wanting to completely remove magic from their lives and some wanting vengeance.
Other storylines I would want the next generation spin-off to explore are the return of Phoebe and Cole/Source's son and Chris and the Evil Wyatt future. Would Chris be affected by the deadly wound Gideon inflicted upon his alternate self? Would the world revert back to that future again if things aren't fixed soon? Personally I would like to see the world revert and we see how different things were and their lives were in the Chris-Crossed dark future.
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Post by ljones on Sept 24, 2016 16:02:33 GMT -5
I agree that Phoebe's children ought to be the focus of any Next Gen spin-off, perhaps even just one of her daughters who has moved from San Francisco and away from her motley crew of all-powerful cousins. Any such show would need to retain an element of danger and also discovery, which is why the main character would be best to be 'isolated' from her family. The premise could be that she is the black sheep of the family and turned her back on magic but when she moves away to college she is drawn to helping Innocents, only her powers and knowledge of the craft is rusty due to years of neglect. She would have to re-learn how to be a witch. I really like this idea, Deano - I've seen something like it before and always thought it would be the best way of doing it. If they decided to make the comics canon by following them in the the spin-off (and much as I dislike S10, my guess is that's what would happen in order for there to be a spin-off - CBS Entertainment which owns the rights to Charmed would want them to be made canon in hopes that more fans would buy them), I think that daughter should be the oldest, PJ aka Prudence Johnna. Especially where she's named after Prue, I can see the others expecting her to be just like Prue and her not liking that (I see her being more like a young Phoebe than a young Prue) which would lead to the scenario you described. What's your reaction towards that? If it was going to be a Charmed Sons one, I'd want to have Piper actually be a good mother and bind all of Wyatt's powers as a child so they wouldn't all go to his head and turn him evil. So he'd be the only Halliwell with no powers making Chris more powerful than him, a turnaround from the parent show. I see the murder of their sister Melinda - using the comic names again - being what spurs them into going into the attic and opening the chest and taking out the Book of Shadows where it's been locked in there after the sisters retire after whatever happens in the last issue of the comics, and finding a different spell at the beginning of of the Book, one that will give two brothers the Power of Two - not as powerful as the Power of Three, of course, but the next-most powerful connection), becoming the Charmed Sons. Chris the powerful one and Wyatt with none (but perhaps better with both potions and spells besides being taller and stronger) could make for a spin-off that would be different than the parent show. If you didn't have the stupid flashforward, I'd prefer this happening after Piper was killed, ending the Charmed Ones, otherwise whenever they run into trouble, they'd go running to Mommy for help, but I guess you can't have everything... What's your reaction towards that? Why should Phoebe's kids be the main focus of a spin-off show? |
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Post by magena on Oct 18, 2016 15:06:35 GMT -5
A show with Phoebe's girls as new Charmed Ones'ld be only a bad reboot
Way to go, cyma, your idea is very good!
I'ld see what happened in the original time, they had two to explore, that one in which the sisters lived estranged and Phoebe exposed magic, and Wyatt and Chris future, in which Wyatt exposed magic
Something different
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Post by BriannaWarren on Oct 18, 2016 15:36:30 GMT -5
It can't. At least not without Phoebe and Cole's son as an antithesis to Wyatt. He's too powerful. Bring in Phoebe/Cole's son, make him the good one and Wyatt the bad one, and you got yourself a show. That would be an amazing idea for the spin off series. Their unborn son could of resurrected himself to come back and seek revenge on the Charmed Ones after not being able to save him from destruction by the Seer, after seeing his mother move on with Coop and having three daughters with him, he could decent to madness because his mother doesn't morn his death. We can see a scene with the Charmed Ones and their husbands and children at the manor, Phoebe's 'unborn' son walks up to the manor and knocks on the door, Phoebe says that she will get the door and he would say 'Hello mom' after he says that she is taken back and says 'I only have three daughters, I have never had a son.' and he would reply by saying 'Why don't we take a trip through memory lane, shall we? Remember Cole Turner, your ex-demonic-husband, you fell pregnant with his child and that resulted in a son, also known as, me. Well aren't you going to invite your only son into the place where all the Halliwells have stepped foot in.' before Phoebe could respond with an answer, he barges in, looks around the room notices everyone is at the dinner table and looks at Phoebe and then asks 'So, mother why don't you tell me what event we are celebrating?.' Phoebe looks at the table full with people and says 'We are celebrating Thanksgiving, and if you know me you will probably know everyone here.' (I think I might be going overboard with this) |
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Post by sol on Oct 19, 2016 0:32:59 GMT -5
Phoebe's unborn son is unborn and vanquished with the Seer, I'm nota able to see in which way to recover him
Wyatt, on the other hand, could be the heir of the Source that the Seer foresaw, I'm not so sure that it'll be so easy to hold a so powerful young man on the good side
I'm talking like Grams!
I'ld like a new show where the young Halliwell's are fighting to save their older cousins, if it wasn't possible to get rid of all those children
Or else, I'ld prefer only Wyatt, Chris, Phoebe's ladybag as Oracle and Paige's twins with only heal powers and a very good skill in potions and spells
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Post by lordumbrex on Oct 19, 2016 6:18:52 GMT -5
On Halloween a year after her vanquish, when the veil between worlds was at its weakest, the Seer reappeared with a young child in her arms. Quickly, she returned to her lair in the Underworld, which had remained untouched in her absence. There, for the next twenty years, she raised the boy to be the tool for her ultimate revenge and her rise to unlimited power, but the only problem was one that she did not foresee: the young adult longed for humanity, his human soul having been one thing the Seer could not have predicted. She had tried to kill it in utero, had tried to stomp it out through his childhood, but now that he had come of age, his humanity prevented him from becoming the weapon that she had so desired.
After the Seer confronted him to do as he had been raised to do and kill the Charmed Ones, the young adult fled the Underworld, wanting to live his life as he saw fit for the first time.
And with that, Phoebe's son is back. Works for me.
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Post by BriannaWarren on Oct 19, 2016 22:54:21 GMT -5
On Halloween a year after her vanquish, when the veil between worlds was at its weakest, the Seer reappeared with a young child in her arms. Quickly, she returned to her lair in the Underworld, which had remained untouched in her absence. There, for the next twenty years, she raised the boy to be the tool for her ultimate revenge and her rise to unlimited power, but the only problem was one that she did not foresee: the young adult longed for humanity, his human soul having been one thing the Seer could not have predicted. She had tried to kill it in utero, had tried to stomp it out through his childhood, but now that he had come of age, his humanity prevented him from becoming the weapon that she had so desired. After the Seer confronted him to do as he had been raised to do and kill the Charmed Ones, the young adult fled the Underworld, wanting to live his life as he saw fit for the first time. And with that, Phoebe's son is back. Works for me. That is the idea that I was trying to convey. That would be perfect for his return and after learning about his three half-sisters, he could be a private eye for the next generation of Charmed Ones, like what his father was for the Original Charmed Ones, wanting to help the Charmed Ones and the next generation of the Charmed Ones, therefore having Phoebe's daughters as the next Charmed Ones, could still be a reality. He would want to help Phoebe as well and his two Aunts by giving them tips on the next demon attack. Wanting to help increase the Book of Shadows, which if allowed, Piper could use the book to test his innocence because knowing her she wouldn't trust him. How does that sound? |
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Post by Granny Charmed on Oct 20, 2016 6:30:26 GMT -5
On Halloween a year after her vanquish, when the veil between worlds was at its weakest, the Seer reappeared with a young child in her arms. Quickly, she returned to her lair in the Underworld, which had remained untouched in her absence. There, for the next twenty years, she raised the boy to be the tool for her ultimate revenge and her rise to unlimited power, but the only problem was one that she did not foresee: the young adult longed for humanity, his human soul having been one thing the Seer could not have predicted. She had tried to kill it in utero, had tried to stomp it out through his childhood, but now that he had come of age, his humanity prevented him from becoming the weapon that she had so desired. After the Seer confronted him to do as he had been raised to do and kill the Charmed Ones, the young adult fled the Underworld, wanting to live his life as he saw fit for the first time. And with that, Phoebe's son is back. Works for me. That is the idea that I was trying to convey. That would be perfect for his return and after learning about his three half-sisters, he could be a private eye for the next generation of Charmed Ones, like what his father was for the Original Charmed Ones, wanting to help the Charmed Ones and the next generation of the Charmed Ones, therefore having Phoebe's daughters as the next Charmed Ones, could still be a reality. He would want to help Phoebe as well and his two Aunts by giving them tips on the next demon attack. Wanting to help increase the Book of Shadows, which if allowed, Piper could use the book to test his innocence because knowing her she wouldn't trust him. How does that sound? I do like the sound of this story dear. It would make a very interesting next generation story of Charmed. Quite different. I do like the idea you have going. If this was a fanfiction story - oh this girl would read it. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 20, 2016 7:41:17 GMT -5
That is the idea that I was trying to convey. That would be perfect for his return and after learning about his three half-sisters, he could be a private eye for the next generation of Charmed Ones, like what his father was for the Original Charmed Ones, wanting to help the Charmed Ones and the next generation of the Charmed Ones, therefore having Phoebe's daughters as the next Charmed Ones, could still be a reality. He would want to help Phoebe as well and his two Aunts by giving them tips on the next demon attack. Wanting to help increase the Book of Shadows, which if allowed, Piper could use the book to test his innocence because knowing her she wouldn't trust him. How does that sound? I do like the sound of this story dear. It would make a very interesting next generation story of Charmed. Quite different. I do like the idea you have going. If this was a fanfiction story - oh this girl would read it. So would I, both of you. Please keep the ideas coming! |
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