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Post by charmedforlife28 on Mar 13, 2017 22:51:41 GMT -5
Canon is a character who appears on the show and is named on the show and is identified on the show. Fanon are characters that fans name. The best example is the little girl we see with Wyatt and Chris in the flash-forward at the end of 'Forever Crap', I mean 'Forever Piper', I mean 'Forever Charmed'. Because Piper never mentions a daughter and never calls her by name, we don't officially know who she is. Most fans think she's their younger sister, Melinda. I tend to think she's their younger sister Prudence Melinda, since Prudence was what she was going to call Wyatt if he was the girl he should've been. Others, especially Charmed Sons fans who don't want a younger sister taking away attention from the boys, will say that she's not related at all and instead that she's a friend or a cousin. None of those are right in the same way none of those are wrong - we simply don't know, because like all of the other girls, Kern didn't think it important enough to give them names. So all of those names are fanon, just like we don't know Piper's granddaughter's name. The only next-generation names that are canon are Wyatt, Chris, Paige's son Henry Jr. and Leo's grandson Matthew. Because not every fan can get a hold of the books and the comics, most fans agree that despite what Zenescope said, the names Paul Ruditis gave the other kids (Piper's daughter Melinda, Paige's twins Kat and Tam, and Phoebe's daughters Prudence Johnna (nicknamed PJ), Parker and Patience) are official fanon - if other fans want to use them in their fanfics, they can, but if they want to use others, they also can. Also using them as answers to trivia isn't usually considered polite. Oh gotcha, I am still confused how Wyatt ended up being a boy instead of a girl because in Morality Bites, despite it being an alternate future, she had a girl. |
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Post by charmedforlife28 on Mar 13, 2017 22:53:18 GMT -5
Canon is a character who appears on the show and is named on the show and is identified on the show. Fanon are characters that fans name. The best example is the little girl we see with Wyatt and Chris in the flash-forward at the end of 'Forever Crap', I mean 'Forever Piper', I mean 'Forever Charmed'. Because Piper never mentions a daughter and never calls her by name, we don't officially know who she is. Most fans think she's their younger sister, Melinda. I tend to think she's their younger sister Prudence Melinda, since Prudence was what she was going to call Wyatt if he was the girl he should've been. Others, especially Charmed Sons fans who don't want a younger sister taking away attention from the boys, will say that she's not related at all and instead that she's a friend or a cousin. None of those are right in the same way none of those are wrong - we simply don't know, because like all of the other girls, Kern didn't think it important enough to give them names. So all of those names are fanon, just like we don't know Piper's granddaughter's name. The only next-generation names that are canon are Wyatt, Chris, Paige's son Henry Jr. and Leo's grandson Matthew. Because not every fan can get a hold of the books and the comics, most fans agree that despite what Zenescope said, the names Paul Ruditis gave the other kids (Piper's daughter Melinda, Paige's twins Kat and Tam, and Phoebe's daughters Prudence Johnna (nicknamed PJ), Parker and Patience) are official fanon - if other fans want to use them in their fanfics, they can, but if they want to use others, they also can. Also using them as answers to trivia isn't usually considered polite. Oh gotcha, I am still confused how Wyatt ended up being a boy instead of a girl because in Morality Bites, despite it being an alternate future, she had a girl. Also where do we learn that Leo's grandson is named Matthew? |
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Post by StoryGirl83 on Mar 13, 2017 22:57:43 GMT -5
Season nine starts 18 months after Forever Charmed. Season ten is a direct continuation of that (along with a few novels written by Paul and Pat). Per Paul, you can decide if the comics are canon. Per Zenescope (the publisher), they are canon. I couldn't get a response from CBS . . . on anything including that question. I do know that CBS has to okay every single issue which did hold up at least two issues over the course of the Zenescope comics (issue 8 of season 9 and issue 19 of season 10 if I remember correctly, without CBS Henry would have died in season 10). As Zenoscope was the highest authority to answer me, I tend to go with that. Sometimes I like that answer, sometimes I don't. Whether you agree that it is canon or not, it is an in universe continuation from official sources that, unlike the books (and the new comics), does not contradict canon. I try not to enter that particular argument. I settled it in my own mind when Zenescope responded that it was canon. I realize that doesn't matter to a lot of people and it isn't important enough to me to make it an issue, so I basically do a modified version of what Paul said. I choose to listen to what Zenescope said on the matter. Others may choose to weigh in on the fact that CBS was silent. This is going to sound stupid but what is a canon/fanon character? Not stupid. I remember wondering that myself and fanon was an even more fun term, because at the time I first heard it there was only one person using it around me . . . for months. Here's the closest I could get to a definition of canon that fits here: a collection or list of sacred books accepted as genuine. Basically though, the TV series is canon. The books, which in some places do contradict the TV series, are considered official, but not canon (unless one is talking about canon for the books, but that's a whole other can of worms). The comic books are a little more confusing on that. They do not contradict the TV show and, as I said, Zenescope does call them canon. Most comics books connected to a TV series are not considered canon for their connected TV show. The Buffy and Angel comics are a definite exception to that. I guess Joss Whedon, the creator is involved with them in some way. If the creator is involved, the rule of thumb is that it is always canon. I guess that means the one book that Constance M. Burge wrote is canon (it's a novelization of Something Wicca This Way Comes). Although I think there might be a clause of "unless the creator says it isn't." If that isn't confusing enough fanon is basically what fans consider their headcanon, what they believe that isn't official. Some examples of fanon in Charmed include: Witchlighters. It is a i very common term within the fandom, but it's never used in the TV show, therefore fanon. Piper's daughter. Oh, how I wish the little girl in Forever Charmed had been identified on screen (she was apparently identified in the script and various other places, but since she wasn't identified on screen all of that is only fanon). And Brad Kern can never make off screen canon, because he was only the showrunner and neither the creator nor the owner of the material. That's where the comics get fun in canon/fanon terms. The creator definitely didn't endorse them, but Zenescope could be considered the owner of the material (as in the comics themselves). Had CBS said it, there would be no question as they own Charmed. Here's some more fanon for you: Cole's name. Yep, you heard that right. You may or may not realized that his name is canonically Cole Turner and that a lot of fans consider him to be Benjamin Coleridge Turner, Jr. His father is Benjamin Coleridge Turner. This is canon (headstone, I think), but nowhere is it said that Cole stands for Coleridge or that it's his middle name with Benjamin as his first name. Birth order for Paige's kids. The kids are mentioned "Henry Jr. and the twins," but, I think due to the heights of the kids playing them, the twins are almost always consider to be older than he is. Neither order is canon as Paige doesn't say what order she had them in. If the Zenescope comics are canon, the order is canonized along with some other things about these kids. Ladybug. Okay, let me explain here. Ladybug is Phoebe's daughter. That much is clear. But which daughter. The likely suspect is Phoebe's oldest daughter, but her two older girls are similar in age and when she's talking about having Ladybug and two other girls she didn't foresee, she's in labor with daughter number three while two other daughters are being watched by Billie. It's still likely that Ladybug is the oldest, but she could technically be any of the three (although I think the girl who played Ladybug actually is one of the actresses in the finale, so if she is that's canon). The comics also cover this. For the longest time the idea that Patty Halliwell's name was actually Patricia Halliwell was fanon, at least I've seen it argued (I just checked the family tree and she is listed as Patricia Halliwell . . . but then Victor is listed as Victor Jones, so we all know how fun the family tree is). Even if you discount the family tree, she was still called Patricia in season eight, so that puts that firmly in canon. Prue, Piper, and Phoebe's past lives. You have clear indications of who they were. However, it was never explicitely stated on screen that Piper and Dan's past lives were actually P. Baxter and her husband, Gordan Johnson, or, technically that Phoebe was actually P. Russell and died that day. We don't know what happened when they switched places, again. We have a pretty good idea, but I can (and have) made a pretty detailed argument on why we can't actually prove it by canon. Also their first names are not canon. They apparently do appear in the books and it is laid to rest there, but as the books are definitely not canon, that doesn't count. There are a lot of other things, but does that help with clarification? |
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Post by StoryGirl83 on Mar 13, 2017 23:04:20 GMT -5
Canon is a character who appears on the show and is named on the show and is identified on the show. Fanon are characters that fans name. The best example is the little girl we see with Wyatt and Chris in the flash-forward at the end of 'Forever Crap', I mean 'Forever Piper', I mean 'Forever Charmed'. Because Piper never mentions a daughter and never calls her by name, we don't officially know who she is. Most fans think she's their younger sister, Melinda. I tend to think she's their younger sister Prudence Melinda, since Prudence was what Piper was going to name Wyatt if he was the girl he should've been. Others, especially Charmed Sons fans who don't want a younger sister taking away attention from the boys, will say that she's not related at all and instead that she's a friend or a cousin. None of those are right in the same way none of those are wrong - we simply don't know, because like all of the other girls, Kern, who wrote the finale, didn't think it important enough to give them names. So all of those names are fanon, just like we don't know Piper's granddaughter's name. The only next-generation names that are canon are Wyatt, Chris, Paige's son Henry Jr. and Leo's grandson Matthew. Because not every fan can get a hold of the books and the comics, most fans agree that despite what Zenescope said, the names Paul Ruditis gave the other kids (Piper's daughter Melinda, Paige's twins Kat and Tam, and Phoebe's daughters Prudence Johnna (nicknamed PJ), Parker and Patience) are official fanon - if fans want to use them in their fanfics, they can, but if they want to use others, they also can. Also using them as answers to trivia isn't usually considered polite. Technically speaking, the idea that Matthew is Leo's grandson is also fanon. He never calls Leo "Grandpa" and is never identified as Leo's grandson (or a relative at all). The name and the fact that he uses orbing seems too coincidental, but quite frankly, he could be Paige's grandson for all we officially know or Simon Marx's son for that matter. Sorry, I was just reading what you wrote and it hit me that we just assume that he's Leo and Piper's grandson (I'm laughing at the idea that he is Leo's and not Piper's grandson right now), but we don't actually have any confirmation of that. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 13, 2017 23:04:29 GMT -5
Oh gotcha, I am still confused how Wyatt ended up being a boy instead of a girl because in Morality Bites, despite it being an alternate future, she had a girl. Also where do we learn that Leo's grandson is named Matthew? Leo congratulates "Matthew" when he levitates a book. Piper never calls her granddaughter by name. As for the Melinda/Wyatt thing, that's been battled forever - what can we say besides Kern wanted to shock us and did that by turning her into a twice-blessed boy - the ultimate jump the shark moment, since up to that point, only Warren females had powers. But keep in mind that Prue was alive in that alternate universe, so when she died, the entire timeline changed. Personally (and this is pure Es' fanon, otherwise known as my head canon), I think it happened when the Charmed Ones defeated the Source and the sisters agreed to continue their destiny, something the ones in Morality Bites never would've had a chance to do since if they were only interested in personal gain stuff and not protecting innocents, the Source would've ignored them. I think at the moment they accepted that defeating the Source was their destiny rather than protecting innocents, the Demon of Destiny (also known as Brad Kern) turned Melinda into the Twice-Blessed Brat, since protecting him would become their destiny for the rest of the series. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 13, 2017 23:05:47 GMT -5
Canon is a character who appears on the show and is named on the show and is identified on the show. Fanon are characters that fans name. The best example is the little girl we see with Wyatt and Chris in the flash-forward at the end of 'Forever Crap', I mean 'Forever Piper', I mean 'Forever Charmed'. Because Piper never mentions a daughter and never calls her by name, we don't officially know who she is. Most fans think she's their younger sister, Melinda. I tend to think she's their younger sister Prudence Melinda, since Prudence was what Piper was going to name Wyatt if he was the girl he should've been. Others, especially Charmed Sons fans who don't want a younger sister taking away attention from the boys, will say that she's not related at all and instead that she's a friend or a cousin. None of those are right in the same way none of those are wrong - we simply don't know, because like all of the other girls, Kern, who wrote the finale, didn't think it important enough to give them names. So all of those names are fanon, just like we don't know Piper's granddaughter's name. The only next-generation names that are canon are Wyatt, Chris, Paige's son Henry Jr. and Leo's grandson Matthew. Because not every fan can get a hold of the books and the comics, most fans agree that despite what Zenescope said, the names Paul Ruditis gave the other kids (Piper's daughter Melinda, Paige's twins Kat and Tam, and Phoebe's daughters Prudence Johnna (nicknamed PJ), Parker and Patience) are official fanon - if fans want to use them in their fanfics, they can, but if they want to use others, they also can. Also using them as answers to trivia isn't usually considered polite. Technically speaking, the idea that Matthew is Leo's grandson is also fanon. He never calls Leo "Grandpa" and is never identified as Leo's grandson (or a relative at all). The name and the fact that he uses orbing seems too coincidental, but quite frankly, he could be Paige's grandson for all we officially know or Simon Marx's son for that matter. Sorry, I was just reading what you wrote and it hit me that we just assume that he's Leo and Piper's grandson (I'm laughing at the idea that he is Leo's and not Piper's grandson right now), but we don't actually he any confirmation of that. OOOPS! I never realized that, but you're absolutely right! |
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Post by charmedforlife28 on Mar 13, 2017 23:06:23 GMT -5
This is going to sound stupid but what is a canon/fanon character? Not stupid. I remember wondering that myself and fanon was an even more fun term, because at the time I first heard it there was only one person using it around me . . . for months. Here's the closest I could get to a definition of canon that fits here: a collection or list of sacred books accepted as genuine. Basically though, the TV series is canon. The books, which in some places do contradict the TV series, are considered official, but not canon (unless one is talking about canon for the books, but that's a whole other can of worms). The comic books are a little more confusing on that. They do not contradict the TV show and, as I said, Zenescope does call them canon. Most comics books connected to a TV series are not considered canon for their connected TV show. The Buffy and Angel comics are a definite exception to that. I guess Joss Whedon, the creator is involved with them in some way. If the creator is involved, the rule of thumb is that it is always canon. I guess that means the one book that Constance M. Burge wrote is canon (it's a novelization of Something Wicca This Way Comes). Although I think there might be a clause of "unless the creator says it isn't." If that isn't confusing enough fanon is basically what fans consider their headcanon, what they believe that isn't official. Some examples of fanon in Charmed include: Witchlighters. It is a i very common term within the fandom, but it's never used in the TV show, therefore fanon. Piper's daughter. Oh, how I wish the little girl in Forever Charmed had been identified on screen (she was apparently identified in the script and various other places, but since she wasn't identified on screen all of that is only fanon). And Brad Kern can never make off screen canon, because he was only the showrunner and neither the creator nor the owner of the material. That's where the comics get fun in canon/fanon terms. The creator definitely didn't endorse them, but Zenescope could be considered the owner of the material (as in the comics themselves). Had CBS said it, there would be no question as they own Charmed. Here's some more fanon for you: Cole's name. Yep, you heard that right. You may or may not realized that his name is canonically Cole Turner and that a lot of fans consider him to be Benjamin Coleridge Turner, Jr. His father is Benjamin Coleridge Turner. This is canon (headstone, I think), but nowhere is it said that Cole stands for Coleridge or that it's his middle name with Benjamin as his first name. Birth order for Paige's kids. The kids are mentioned "Henry Jr. and the twins," but, I think due to the heights of the kids playing them, the twins are almost always consider to be older than he is. Neither order is canon as Paige doesn't say what order she had them in. If the Zenescope comics are canon, the order is canonized along with some other things about these kids. Ladybug. Okay, let me explain here. Ladybug is Phoebe's daughter. That much is clear. But which daughter. The likely suspect is Phoebe's oldest daughter, but her two older girls are similar in age and when she's talking about having Ladybug and two other girls she didn't foresee, she's in labor with daughter number three while two other daughters are being watched by Billie. It's still likely that Ladybug is the oldest, but she could technically be any of the three (although I think the girl who played Ladybug actually is one of the actresses in the finale, so if she is that's canon). The comics also cover this. For the longest time the idea that Patty Halliwell's name was actually Patricia Halliwell was fanon, at least I've seen it argued (I just checked the family tree and she is listed as Patricia Halliwell . . . but then Victor is listed as Victor Jones, so we all know how fun the family tree is). Even if you discount the family tree, she was still called Patricia in season eight, so that puts that firmly in canon. Prue, Piper, and Phoebe's past lives. You have clear indications of who they were. However, it was never explicitely stated on screen that Piper and Dan's past lives were actually P. Baxter and her husband, Gordan Johnson, or, technically that Phoebe was actually P. Russell and died that day. We don't know what happened when they switched places, again. We have a pretty good idea, but I can (and have) made a pretty detailed argument on why we can't actually prove it by canon. Also their first names are not canon. They apparently do appear in the books and it is laid to rest there, but as the books are definitely not canon, that doesn't count. There are a lot of other things, but does that help with clarification? Albeit a little confusing, between your post and Esmeralda's I have a better idea. Thanks! |
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Post by charmedforlife28 on Mar 13, 2017 23:10:57 GMT -5
Leo congratulates "Matthew" when he levitates a book. Piper never calls her granddaughter by name. As for the Melinda/Wyatt thing, that's been battled forever - what can we say besides Kern wanted to shock us and turned her into a twice-blessed boy - the ultimate jump the shark moment. But keep in mind that Prue was alive in that alternate universe, so it changed. Personally (and this is pure Es' fanon, otherwise known as my head canon), I think it happened when the Charmed Ones defeated the Source and the sisters agreed to continue their destiny, something the ones in Morality Bites never would've had a chance to do since if they were only interested in personal gain stuff and not protecting innocents, the Source would've ignored them. I think at the moment they accepted that defeating the Source was their destiny rather than protecting innocents, the Demon of Destiny turned Melinda into the Twice-Blessed Brat, since protecting him would become their destiny for the rest of the series. Oooh in the series finale, dang I forgot about that part. I don't recall Kern ever giving an explanation as to the shift from girl to boy, but again many things he did he offered no reasonable explanation for. =P |
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 13, 2017 23:12:52 GMT -5
Leo congratulates "Matthew" when he levitates a book. Piper never calls her granddaughter by name. As for the Melinda/Wyatt thing, that's been battled forever - what can we say besides Kern wanted to shock us and turned her into a twice-blessed boy - the ultimate jump the shark moment. But keep in mind that Prue was alive in that alternate universe, so it changed. Personally (and this is pure Es' fanon, otherwise known as my head canon), I think it happened when the Charmed Ones defeated the Source and the sisters agreed to continue their destiny, something the ones in Morality Bites never would've had a chance to do since if they were only interested in personal gain stuff and not protecting innocents, the Source would've ignored them. I think at the moment they accepted that defeating the Source was their destiny rather than protecting innocents, the Demon of Destiny turned Melinda into the Twice-Blessed Brat, since protecting him would become their destiny for the rest of the series. Oooh in the series finale, dang I forgot about that part. I don't recall Kern ever giving an explanation as to the shift from girl to boy, but again many things he did he offered no reasonable explanation for. =P I count all of his so-called explanations as pure spin and not to be taken seriously, the same way I do anything Shannen says about Charmed. |
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Post by charmedforlife28 on Mar 13, 2017 23:16:07 GMT -5
Oooh in the series finale, dang I forgot about that part. I don't recall Kern ever giving an explanation as to the shift from girl to boy, but again many things he did he offered no reasonable explanation for. =P I count all of his so-called explanations as pure spin and not to be taken seriously, the same way I do anything Shannen says about Charmed. This might be getting off topic and I don't know what thread it would be under but why do you feel that way about Shannen? |
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 14, 2017 0:52:41 GMT -5
Just because they usually sounded like sour grapes.
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Post by Ruth Marie on Mar 14, 2017 5:20:48 GMT -5
Oooh in the series finale, dang I forgot about that part. I don't recall Kern ever giving an explanation as to the shift from girl to boy, but again many things he did he offered no reasonable explanation for. =P I count all of his so-called explanations as pure spin and not to be taken seriously, the same way I do anything Shannen says about Charmed. Yeah, that is true. I never take anything seriously they say, and even in general when it comes to my favorite shows or movies. At the end of the day, the fans care the most for the material. It isn't like the writers and actor constantly feel attached to the projects once they finish. The fans in the end matter. Nothing against Shannen, Holly or any of the cast. But most of the conventions, none of them even have any memory of barely any of the episodes they were in. So again, I wouldn't take half what they say at these seriously. Not that I dislike them of course I love them on my favorite show. The fans have a better appreciation for Charmed, and probably could come up with a better explanation for half of what goes on in the show. Like the writers or Brad Kern even cared that much, probably barely remembers half the episodes he wrote. |
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Post by lordumbrex on Mar 15, 2017 0:36:21 GMT -5
I still don't understand why you have a medium in comics where the make up expenses don't matter and you still decide to make the demons look human. Yes, all three of them have weird eyes and elfin ears, and Surgat was kind of gray, but still, outside of those two things, they all look like male humans. Meanwhile, the rabble they harangued to at the end had horns and other strange appendages but you couldn't see their faces. Outside of that, I'm willing to see where it goes, though like many of you, I am curious as to the placement.
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Post by craig on Apr 12, 2017 21:42:52 GMT -5
Erica Schultz talks about how she will be writing Charmed
I know this news will have many members here jumping. I couldn't resist sharing. I have my copy of issue 2 now, and I love it. SO GOOD. I recommend everyone to get a copy.
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Post by lordumbrex on Apr 13, 2017 2:07:57 GMT -5
Listen, I have no problem with them setting stories during Season 4 because that's what they want to do, but to do it in order to avoid Wyatt/Chris is a cop out. Growing up, having a family, having children and dealing with the problems that such a life brings about is part of the sisterly dynamic. Does that mean you can't grow up and evolve without children? No, of course not, but I don't understand with this fascination on this site with keeping the three sisters in a perpetual stasis. The new additions to the family could have brought about fun, interesting, creative stories. The problem wasn't them having children and getting married, the problem was bad writing.
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Post by craig on Apr 13, 2017 10:07:21 GMT -5
Yeah the writing wasn't that great. I guess people look more fondly on season 1 to 4, because the sisters were not ruined yet by writing. But to think people can't evolve without children growing up. Well it isn't for everyone, and ask my 71 year old uncle and aunt that have no children.
But your right it does add a new element and story potential for Charmed with the children and husbands. Maybe they went about it the wrong way, and maybe Piper and Leo being the it couple with the family could of been someone else instead. Who knows?
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Post by cyma on Apr 13, 2017 14:33:24 GMT -5
Listen, I have no problem with them setting stories during Season 4 because that's what they want to do, but to do it in order to avoid Wyatt/Chris is a cop out. Growing up, having a family, having children and dealing with the problems that such a life brings about is part of the sisterly dynamic. Does that mean you can't grow up and evolve without children? No, of course not, but I don't understand with this fascination on this site with keeping the three sisters in a perpetual stasis. The new additions to the family could have brought about fun, interesting, creative stories. The problem wasn't them having children and getting married, the problem was bad writing. Even with romance and a baby in Reckless Abandon episode season 2, the focus still felt like it was on the sisters. Compared to later seasons, the romance got dull, Baby Wyatt and Chris majority of the time felt like pointless pieces of furniture and sisters were just doing their separate thing which just wasn't interesting. So definitely not so great writing is the culprit. The problem I see with pregnant Piper in the comics would be her being invincible and self-healing and that would just make everything a bit too easy. But sure there could be a creative way around that too. Temporarily stripping her powers or something. I think CBS should just give us an alternate Charmed comic about sisters and also a next generation Halliwell comics. Will solve the problem of comic writers being restricted to stick strictly with canon. Or have to make changes like fudging the timeline a bit. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 14, 2017 7:07:08 GMT -5
Well, having read part of the next issue (I bought it yesterday and read it on the bus and hadn't finished it by the time I got off the bus and found it boring enough that I didn't finish it when I got in my apartment. I'll finish it, sure, but I don't know when), I definitely think this is an alternate universe that isn't restricted by canon. It features Paige so it can't be S1-3. Cole is nowhere around (YAY!) so it can't be S4 (YAY!) and Erika has made it clear that Piper's not pregnant so it can't be S5-8. Also, Paige already has a charge, so that also means it's not S5 since Sam was her only one in that one. It's definitely an alternate-universe one and at this point nothing in it has caught my attention. They try to make it be about the sisters' non-Charmed lives, but most of it is about demons who I don't find interesting.
It should be a good one for me since the only guy around is Leo who's still a whitelighter and there's no kids, but like I said, it's boring and nothing has happened to make me like any of the sisters - they're the ones I don't like - the ones in my signature.
The likenesses are the types that drive me nuts where in some panels they look a lot like the actors and others they don't look anything like them. I'd rather it be one or the other. And Phoebe's where I hate her looks the most - pure S4, while Paige has the red in her hair (although not pure red - more red highlights), so she's *not* S4 Paige.
I would've preferred an alternate universe that takes place in an alternate S2 (no Neighbor Dan and Jenny...) where it's Prue, Piper and Phoebe and saving innocents is more important than battling demons - I am *SO* bored with battling demons - and in this issue, the demons are the stars much more than the Charmed Ones - which is also what I felt about the first issue. There *are* innocents, but again, just tools for the demons - I couldn't care less about any of them.
Reading this is reminding me of watching S6-8 for the first (and last) time or reading S10 for the first (and last) time - not particularly interested but will keep buying and keep reading because checking out the newest Charmed episode/issue is what I do in hopes that *maybe* I'll see the Charmed Ones who I love. In S7, that happened a couple times, during 'Show Ghouls' and 'Something Wicca This Way Goes'. In S6, S8 and S10 it never happened. We'll see what happens with these.
Now anyone who loves demon-battles will probably love these first two issues. I don't.
ETA: Having written this, I decided to go ahead and read the rest of the issue. All I can say is *YAWN*
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Post by Ruth Marie on Apr 20, 2017 2:22:41 GMT -5
Finally got the latest issue. I didn't really like it. I couldn't get past the first few pages.
I hear this is more on a mini-series and consists of 5 issues. If that is the case, I really actually am thrilled. Hopefully the next one takes place in another season. Although I am curious if they will do something set after season 10 or in season 1 or 2.
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cyma
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Post by cyma on Apr 20, 2017 3:52:50 GMT -5
I liked issue 1 better than this. The problem with issue 2 was that when it finally got to the confronting the demon part, it abruptly ended. Also I didn't really like the whole Paige's charge conjuring a naked man in the middle of the living room and Piper having an argument about it with Paige on that. These silly things were so much in season 5 and beyond that it got unfunny long time ago. And Paige as a whitelighter and always bailing is kinda rubbing me the wrong way. But I guess it's exactly this attitude which is going to get her captured and her charge killed. Though I hope it had been written in a better way to achieve this and doing it in her social worker role.
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