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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 16, 2016 7:30:04 GMT -5
Hello, I am currently focusing all of my free time writing a fan-fiction but I need help in order for it to make sense. So I was wondering if I was to write the things I need help with would you guys help me with the reality side of everything?
I will tell you now what my fan-fiction is all about:
The story begins with the eldest reading the book of shadows during a stormy night, the middle child is writing an essay for her assignment for school and the youngest is making tea for her and her sisters.
All three of them have listened to their mothers advice about going to college and getting a higher education and making friends in the process. The eldest Prudence (known as Prue) has finished her psychology degree and is working as her mother's assistant for work experience. Phoenix is becoming a waitress, so she can help out with her aunt Piper's restaurant with her cousin Melinda. The youngest Paris is just studying a lot of small things since she doesn't know what she wants to be yet and she has just got out of high school.
They have lived with their powers for a long time, learning how to control their powers and knowing when they are advancing. They love hearing stories about their mother's life before kids and even heard the story about her being the Queen of the Underworld, and carrying the Source's heir.
They have a manor of their own, which their parents lived in but because now they are old enough to live by themselves Phoebe and Coop have moved to the Condo and the three sisters have remained at the house.
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Post by adzpower on Nov 16, 2016 13:59:33 GMT -5
So what do you actually need help with?
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 16, 2016 22:58:26 GMT -5
So what do you actually need help with? Basic things; I know how to do the complicated stuff. It's just the basics are a lot more work, since they can be anything to lead up to the complicated ideas. The basic foundations such as: powers, occupations and starting points. So that my more complex ideas will make a greater impression to everybody and not just myself. I know that this is a fanfiction and people are going to tell me that I should write whatever I want but my fanfictions are normally alternate realities, and I'm writing this fanfiction to test myself. So the basic foundations is what I am currently dealing with and these are the main ones: - Should I give them the same powers as the Original Charmed Ones? or create a new collective power for them? - Would they be battling demons all the time? or would they be battling demons at all? - Would they have to answer to the Elders or Cupids or even both?
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Post by adzpower on Nov 17, 2016 6:51:13 GMT -5
1. These are Phoebe's kids right? So I would say not to give them the original Charmed powers, though it might be a cool idea to give each sister one of their mother's powers, premonition, levitation and empathy, but maybe make them a little different to compensate for them being part Cupid. They could all have the Cupid teleporting power or perhaps different cupid powers if you can think of any.
2. As for battling demons, totally up to you, it might make the story a little harder if there is no action, I have to believe Phoebe would have taught her kids self-defence, maybe have them pop up every so often but not be the main part of the story?
3. This last one is tricky, and totally up to you, if you can find some way to put it in the story then do it, but if you think it might get in the way then don't, a cool mystery would be if an evil demon had killed off loads of cupids and the sisters became targets since they were also half-cupid, that could be a cool mystery they'd need to solve. Then they would be on the good side of the remaining cupids and they could be useful allies.
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Post by Esmeralda on Nov 17, 2016 8:55:48 GMT -5
The idea of them having their mother's three powers is a great one, especially because it means that they're all basically passive, which sounds more cupidy, the way Paige's form of TK sounds more passive than Prue's and Chris'- I always thought Chris should have the same one Paige does, IF indeed they're hybrids. It also makes them quite a bit different than the previous set of Charmed Ones (the second set) who depended on might much more than brains.
That's probably your biggest choice and will help decide powers - are they are truly half-cupid or are they witches who happen to have a cupid power along with a Warren power. I'd prefer the latter, since it would be back to making being a Warren more important than having a cupid for a father, the way having a whitelighter for a father became more important than having a Warren for a mother in the second half of the show, but if you'd rather have the cupid father be more important, while letting having a whitelighter for a father or a whitelighter for a grandfather be more important that having a Charmed One for a mother, as most fans seem to do with spin-offs, go for it - it's totally up to you.
If it's the latter, rather than a cupid-influenced power, they can each have the same cupid power, like hearting, or each have a different one.
I also like the latter idea because it means that rather than each of them turning into a Power of One like both Piper and Paige did, they'd have to be a power of three (no matter if they're Charmed or not - also your choice) who have to depend on each other to defeat whoever your bad guy is. Let one be good at potions, one be good at spells and the other be the one who has premonitions (the most important of all three of these powers since it would help them find innocents to help...) and you'd have a great setup. But again that's up to you. Most writers find it easier to write when they have powers that can easily get them out of trouble, like the second set.
I do think you should have a bad guy - and a Demon of Hate would be a great one with precedence from the show - but only one working behind the scenes so you only have to worry about writing a single vanquishing - unless you enjoy writing battle scenes (I don't...) and then have as many as you want with no need to worry about innocents, just like the second set.
But you're right the first time - it truly is totally up to you. If none of these ideas appeal to you, do what does.
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 17, 2016 9:20:11 GMT -5
Thank-you for these ideas they are certainly getting consideration as part of the FanFiction. I can't be more grateful for the insight that you two (adzpower and Esmeralda) have brought to the table. I just don't want this to be another form of the Charmed Ones but a complete redo of a system that should be brought to play if they want to establish the next generation. Thank-you.
PS: I will be uploading character profiles to the thread so that I can receive feedback from my work so far. These will include: Names, Age, Birth-date, Powers, Occupations, Brief Character appearance and personally traits.
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Post by adzpower on Nov 17, 2016 15:18:16 GMT -5
Ooh I'm excited to see those profiles.
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Post by lordumbrex on Nov 17, 2016 16:01:33 GMT -5
Personally, if I were to have a story with Phoebe's kids and there are three of them, I may try to have a little difference in their abilities to create a small plot of tension between the sisters. I'm thinking active, defensive, and passive, and maybe they all have a small empathy ability. I'd reverse the power tension, however, with the youngest being the one with the active and the oldest with the passive one.
Prue (passive): Premonition. Phoenix (defensive): Levitation. Paris (active): Heat generation/firethrowing? It might be interesting to have Phoebe realize that she regained the powers she had in her past due to seeing her daughter and fearing that her daughter would be tempted to use them for evil as she was in the past.
In the end, it is up to you. Do what interests you and what you enjoy about Charmed. It's the only way you will be able to get through an entire story before it becomes a chore. Trust me, one of my Harry Potter stories has nearly a million views and I lost passion for it like a year ago and it's a chore just to get one chapter done of it now because of things that happened in my life that changed my perspective.
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Post by Assassin Witch on Nov 17, 2016 17:15:45 GMT -5
Hey, Brianna! We have a Fan Fiction Ideas board in the Library. I'll be moving this thread there shortly since it fits that category. But it's a great idea to bounce ideas off of others to help gain insight. Sometimes, you just need help structuring the universe.
Character profiles are very important. (Wish the show had those. *cough BIRTHDATES cough*)
Does this mean at the newspaper? (I actually have a minor in psychology. So fascinating.) I guess I'm interested to see the character profile and what you mean for experience.
Depending on ages for Phoenix and Melinda, there could be an "issue" of say, who ends up managing the restaurant. The cousins both want that position, type of deal.
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Post by Granny Charmed on Nov 17, 2016 22:16:19 GMT -5
I look forward dear to seeing what you decide to do. I haven't got any input atm dear, since I am quite busy tending to my garden and doing some needed much spring cleaning outside in it.
But I adore what you have done so far, and look forward to seeing your character profiles. Well done.
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 17, 2016 23:46:19 GMT -5
Personally, if I were to have a story with Phoebe's kids and there are three of them, I may try to have a little difference in their abilities to create a small plot of tension between the sisters. I'm thinking active, defensive, and passive, and maybe they all have a small empathy ability. I'd reverse the power tension, however, with the youngest being the one with the active and the oldest with the passive one. Prue (passive): Premonition. Phoenix (defensive): Levitation. Paris (active): Heat generation/firethrowing? It might be interesting to have Phoebe realize that she regained the powers she had in her past due to seeing her daughter and fearing that her daughter would be tempted to use them for evil as she was in the past. In the end, it is up to you. Do what interests you and what you enjoy about Charmed. It's the only way you will be able to get through an entire story before it becomes a chore. Trust me, one of my Harry Potter stories has nearly a million views and I lost passion for it like a year ago and it's a chore just to get one chapter done of it now because of things that happened in my life that changed my perspective. Would you mind if I use your powers for my characters? I think that it is amazing with the storyline that I am hoping to go with, and the powers that you have selected goes well with my characters. I am asking you, so that you don't feel used about me using these powers. I would acknowledge you and I would also help you with anything you need help with. I agree with you entirely with reversing the power structure.
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 17, 2016 23:54:24 GMT -5
Hey, Brianna! We have a Fan Fiction Ideas board in the Library. I'll be moving this thread there shortly since it fits that category. But it's a great idea to bounce ideas off of others to help gain insight. Sometimes, you just need help structuring the universe. Character profiles are very important. (Wish the show had those. *cough BIRTHDATES cough*) Does this mean at the newspaper? (I actually have a minor in psychology. So fascinating.) I guess I'm interested to see the character profile and what you mean for experience. Depending on ages for Phoenix and Melinda, there could be an "issue" of say, who ends up managing the restaurant. The cousins both want that position, type of deal. Thank you for letting me know, that my thread is going to get moved! For the first question, I am just going to give a little spoiler, Phoebe is thinking about retiring at the newspaper and just focusing on being a self help author (So she can help troubled teens like herself when she was that age). Prue is working their to gain experience with the newspaper since the Boss of the Daily Mail is thinking about hiring her, they want to see her work ethic as well as see what new and refreshing insight she could bring into the articles. For the second part, I am thinking about going with something like that. Having a story-line which evolves into a fight between Phoenix and Melinda.
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Post by lordumbrex on Nov 18, 2016 2:22:36 GMT -5
Would you mind if I use your powers for my characters? I think that it is amazing with the storyline that I am hoping to go with, and the powers that you have selected goes well with my characters. I am asking you, so that you don't feel used about me using these powers. I would acknowledge you and I would also help you with anything you need help with. I agree with you entirely with reversing the power structure. Of course, go for it! Glad I could help.
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 18, 2016 2:44:50 GMT -5
Would you mind if I use your powers for my characters? I think that it is amazing with the storyline that I am hoping to go with, and the powers that you have selected goes well with my characters. I am asking you, so that you don't feel used about me using these powers. I would acknowledge you and I would also help you with anything you need help with. I agree with you entirely with reversing the power structure. Of course, go for it! Glad I could help. Thank you so much. I am so grateful.
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 18, 2016 3:18:57 GMT -5
Prudence Johanna Halliwell: The Eldest: Mother's Assistant at Daily Mail.
Backstory: Unlike Grams, Phoebe never bounded her daughters powers, instead she taught them how to use them in certain curcumstances. Prue has the same power as her, so Phoebe taught her all the basics of how to control, call and use Premonitions to help others, she also taught her that her visions can't be used for her, and when she receives them she must help that person in her vision. Prudence then followed the same path as her mother by going to college and studying Psychology to takeover her mothers article at the newspaper, the Daily Mail.
Basic Personal Info:
Age:24 Hair: Black/Long/Straight. Eyes: Brown. Skin: Light. Makeup: Natural.
Personality: She is very articulate when it comes to her job, very protective when it comes to her family and very defensive when it comes towards her power, even though her power is known as a passive power she will defend it.
Powers: -Premonitions. -Empathy. -Telepathy.
((So what do you guys think about Prudence?))
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 18, 2016 5:10:27 GMT -5
Phoenix Brianna Halliwell: Middle: Waitress.
Backstory: Phoenix was obsessed with her aunts cooking. Loved home economics classes at her high school and even went to culinary school to become a chef but didn't have the resources or even the know how to make food like her aunt Piper. Phoenix than decided to go to college and study how to be a waitress when her aunt needed help in her restaurant because Melinda was her only waitress and Phoenix taught to herself this could be a way to become a chef or even become a manager.
Personality: Phoenix is great at helping people, she would do anything to help her family and friends, no matter what circumstance they might be in. She is also very smart and a has a huge heart which makes her lovable among her family.
Basic Personal information: Age: 22 Hair: Brown, wavy, sometimes she will straighten it for events. Eyes: Green. Make-up: Natural.
Powers: - Levitation. - Telepathy.
((What do you guys think about Phoenix?))
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 18, 2016 5:24:42 GMT -5
Paris Kyra Halliwell: Youngest: Student.
Backstory: Paris is currently unemployed but is studying small courses to see what she wants to make career which like her aunt Prue and mother before her gets under Prudence skin a little bit. Paris is the only one with the knowledge of how to use her powers correctly and is the only one with complete understanding of the book (within her and her sisters). She loves every aspect of Wicca and has even joked about on occasions of being a teacher at Magic School.
Personality: Paris is what you would call a wild child but within that she loves the fact that she is a cupid-witch and wouldn't give her life up for anything that the world as to offer. She loves her sisters and will defend them in a moments notice. She is very smart even though her sister Prue would often call her decisions stupid but Paris is quick to fire back.
Personal Information:
Age: 19 Hair: Blonde (Like her mothers season 4) straight and long. Eyes: Brown. Skin: Olive. Make-up: Dark eyed make-up with a light lip.
Powers: - Pryokinesis. - Telepathy. - Fading.
((What do you guys think about Paris?))
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Post by adzpower on Nov 18, 2016 7:21:48 GMT -5
I like your characters, they all seem like good people, my only very small gripe is that they all seem so powerful, with tons of individual powers each, I get that they've been raised with their powers and so would maybe have more, but it doesn't seem like they've had to face many demons growing up so what reason would their powers have had for advancing? I feel like in the show the sisters only got an advancement when they really needed it, when they were in danger from evil, like when Phoebe levitated out the way of that demon, and when Paige was able to orb across town after knowing her sister's fiance was in danger. I'm just thinking it would be cool to stagger the advancements throughout the story so you actually have more to tell, it would be funny seeing them get used to each ability as it came along rather than them starting with them all at once.
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 18, 2016 7:42:17 GMT -5
I like your characters, they all seem like good people, my only very small gripe is that they all seem so powerful, with tons of individual powers each, I get that they've been raised with their powers and so would maybe have more, but it doesn't seem like they've had to face many demons growing up so what reason would their powers have had for advancing? I feel like in the show the sisters only got an advancement when they really needed it, when they were in danger from evil, like when Phoebe levitated out the way of that demon, and when Paige was able to orb across town after knowing her sister's fiance was in danger. I'm just thinking it would be cool to stagger the advancements throughout the story so you actually have more to tell, it would be funny seeing them get used to each ability as it came along rather than them starting with them all at once. They all have their individual witches power, which are: - Premonitions - Levitation. - Pryokinesis But their cupid abilities are: - Empathy - Telepathy. The reason why I gave Paris a teleportation power and the power being fading is because of Kyra, I will bring this secret to light very soon.
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Post by adzpower on Nov 18, 2016 8:48:43 GMT -5
Ooh that sounds cool, I'm excited to read this. Actually it makes more sense now that you've explained it, I like how you've given them empathy as a cupid power specifically, that might mean it works differently to how Phoebe's worked?
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