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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 18, 2016 9:03:42 GMT -5
Ooh that sounds cool, I'm excited to read this. Actually it makes more sense now that you've explained it, I like how you've given them empathy as a cupid power specifically, that might mean it works differently to how Phoebe's worked? That is exactly my point. |
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Post by lordumbrex on Nov 18, 2016 19:53:31 GMT -5
Just be careful that the characterization of each sister isn't so similar to the Charmed Ones that it becomes repetitive. You want homages to them, I suspect, not outright the same characters. Other than that, looks good!
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Post by Granny Charmed on Nov 19, 2016 0:51:54 GMT -5
Love what you have done so far dear. Just remember dear that you don't have canon for the characters, unlike Wyatt and Chris. So it is very easy to fall into the trap of them being too similar to the original Charmed Ones.
I look forward to seeing you continue this. Great stuff so far.
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 19, 2016 5:37:26 GMT -5
Thank you to all of your feedback. My intent isn't to make them like the originals otherwise there would be no point in making this thread and you mid-as well watch the original. My characters will develop their own personalities and they won't be pawns of their Aunts and Mother because that isn't fair on the characters.
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Post by melissajkelly on Nov 21, 2016 19:22:39 GMT -5
This will be the first Charmed fan-fiction that I read, looking forward to it  |
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Post by Granny Charmed on Nov 22, 2016 7:55:15 GMT -5
This will be the first Charmed fan-fiction that I read, looking forward to it I hope you get a chance to look at all the wonderful stories in the Fan-Fiction section of the Cafe dear. So many wonderful stories to find whenever you have the time. |
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Post by cyma on Nov 23, 2016 9:17:21 GMT -5
So what do you actually need help with? Basic things; I know how to do the complicated stuff. It's just the basics are a lot more work, since they can be anything to lead up to the complicated ideas. The basic foundations such as: powers, occupations and starting points. So that my more complex ideas will make a greater impression to everybody and not just myself. I know that this is a fanfiction and people are going to tell me that I should write whatever I want but my fanfictions are normally alternate realities, and I'm writing this fanfiction to test myself. So the basic foundations is what I am currently dealing with and these are the main ones: - Should I give them the same powers as the Original Charmed Ones? or create a new collective power for them? - Would they be battling demons all the time? or would they be battling demons at all? - Would they have to answer to the Elders or Cupids or even both? lordumbrex already gave pretty good suggestions. There’s also another thing that’s a possibility for not only power but plot development. Inherit one of Wyatt’s powers. Wyatt being too powerful will always be a major risk factor, especially if he turns evil again. So after Wyatt turns evil for the third time, it’s finally decided to divide his powers among the cousins and his brothers instead of outright strip them. - Would they be battling demons all the time? Or would they be battling demons at all?If someone gave me a dollar for every time I shut down a story because there were only endless description of the many random powers not to mention random demons being killed ruthlessly with those said powers and completely mediocre character and plot development, I would be building large mansions on the moon right about now The stories which instantly hook me put their efforts more on developing characters and their relationships and the plot. And developing the character isn’t endless pages of how a character’s raven hair looked so awesome in the breeze or how shiny their lip gloss is  Any demon or evil creature which is introduced isn’t random but somehow connected to the bigger story. The best example would be the mystery of Cupid-killer case suggested by adzpower. The case and clues leading one or all of the girls to discovering their half-brother, who they believed had died before he was even born. Or if you want more tension and drama, perhaps never knew existed seeing Phoebe never acknowledged the baby as hers or Cole. So why tell her daughters or anyone else about the unborn Source baby? In the journey of unraveling such a secret, they will obviously face obstacles and dead ends along the way. Some of these obstacles would be personal causing clashes while working together. Some in the form of a demon or two. So here’s one reason the girls don’t need to battle demons all the time. Another reason is obviously Chris and Wyatt. Wyatt can blink or sneeze and the demon is vanquished. Chris had time traveled and made a better future for everyone and his behavior in Forever Charmed leads me to believe he has memories and experience of the alternate future. So together with Wyatt, they already are a force to be reckoned with. So the first people one would think to call for help in handling demons and darklighters would always be them. Of course this would mean that a pretty convincing reason would have to be provided why Wyatt and Chris along with the Charmed Ones aren’t handling the Cupid-killer case while the three half-cupid sisters and other Cupids are put under lockdown. If premonitions are needed, then the trio to handle the case logically would be Wyatt, Chris and Prue. And then the question comes, why would Prue risk putting her two sisters in danger with Cupid-killer on the loose when Wyatt and Chris are available an orb away? - Would they have to answer to the Elders or Cupids or even both?
Both but more focus on Cupids since we haven’t seen much about them. There’s already a few good stuff in the Charmed Comics about Cupid’s Up There and how one becomes a Cupid which could help. Unlike whitelighters, if a Cupid’s powers are stripped, they age and die rapidly. Something to keep in mind if you want to put Coop temporary out of commission and put Phoebe and the girls through emotional hell  We’ve seen Elders also use Cupid’s services on the show. Like you know setting Phoebe up with Coop  But there has to be something better than this reason for calling upon the services of a Cupid or half-cupid witch. Anyways, that's enough for now. Will go through the character profiles you posted later |
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 24, 2016 10:50:50 GMT -5
Basic things; I know how to do the complicated stuff. It's just the basics are a lot more work, since they can be anything to lead up to the complicated ideas. The basic foundations such as: powers, occupations and starting points. So that my more complex ideas will make a greater impression to everybody and not just myself. I know that this is a fanfiction and people are going to tell me that I should write whatever I want but my fanfictions are normally alternate realities, and I'm writing this fanfiction to test myself. So the basic foundations is what I am currently dealing with and these are the main ones: - Should I give them the same powers as the Original Charmed Ones? or create a new collective power for them? - Would they be battling demons all the time? or would they be battling demons at all? - Would they have to answer to the Elders or Cupids or even both? lordumbrex already gave pretty good suggestions. There’s also another thing that’s a possibility for not only power but plot development. Inherit one of Wyatt’s powers. Wyatt being too powerful will always be a major risk factor, especially if he turns evil again. So after Wyatt turns evil for the third time, it’s finally decided to divide his powers among the cousins and his brothers instead of outright strip them. - Would they be battling demons all the time? Or would they be battling demons at all?If someone gave me a dollar for every time I shut down a story because there were only endless description of the many random powers not to mention random demons being killed ruthlessly with those said powers and completely mediocre character and plot development, I would be building large mansions on the moon right about now The stories which instantly hook me put their efforts more on developing characters and their relationships and the plot. And developing the character isn’t endless pages of how a character’s raven hair looked so awesome in the breeze or how shiny their lip gloss is Any demon or evil creature which is introduced isn’t random but somehow connected to the bigger story. The best example would be the mystery of Cupid-killer case suggested by adzpower. The case and clues leading one or all of the girls to discovering their half-brother, who they believed had died before he was even born. Or if you want more tension and drama, perhaps never knew existed seeing Phoebe never acknowledged the baby as hers or Cole. So why tell her daughters or anyone else about the unborn Source baby? In the journey of unraveling such a secret, they will obviously face obstacles and dead ends along the way. Some of these obstacles would be personal causing clashes while working together. Some in the form of a demon or two. So here’s one reason the girls don’t need to battle demons all the time. Another reason is obviously Chris and Wyatt. Wyatt can blink or sneeze and the demon is vanquished. Chris had time traveled and made a better future for everyone and his behavior in Forever Charmed leads me to believe he has memories and experience of the alternate future. So together with Wyatt, they already are a force to be reckoned with. So the first people one would think to call for help in handling demons and darklighters would always be them. Of course this would mean that a pretty convincing reason would have to be provided why Wyatt and Chris along with the Charmed Ones aren’t handling the Cupid-killer case while the three half-cupid sisters and other Cupids are put under lockdown. If premonitions are needed, then the trio to handle the case logically would be Wyatt, Chris and Prue. And then the question comes, why would Prue risk putting her two sisters in danger with Cupid-killer on the loose when Wyatt and Chris are available an orb away? - Would they have to answer to the Elders or Cupids or even both?
Both but more focus on Cupids since we haven’t seen much about them. There’s already a few good stuff in the Charmed Comics about Cupid’s Up There and how one becomes a Cupid which could help. Unlike whitelighters, if a Cupid’s powers are stripped, they age and die rapidly. Something to keep in mind if you want to put Coop temporary out of commission and put Phoebe and the girls through emotional hell We’ve seen Elders also use Cupid’s services on the show. Like you know setting Phoebe up with Coop But there has to be something better than this reason for calling upon the services of a Cupid or half-cupid witch. Anyways, that's enough for now. Will go through the character profiles you posted later Thank you so much! I will definitely keep these in mind while I do my fanfiction. This has totally helped me put some basic storylines into action. Thank you again. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 11:26:01 GMT -5
I look foward to read you FF! Even if I like the all generation, I'm stay curious about you story. I very like the name choose. Original, but not too much either. And for the storyline, I think that it's original that it's a Demon of Hate, smarter enough to not face the Charmed Ones, who want to kill them. But I agree with the fact that they're not too similar to the Charmed Ones. For example (and maybe it's a bad idea) but make Paris reckless and be arrogant enough to think that she can take care of demons lonely because of her powers? In result, Paris put herself in danger, and could be kidnap by a demon that way. You could also make that Prue want always to keep control of her sister, especially with Paris because of that. Why not make Phoenix a little naive, and fell into trap easily? I mean, add something that make them more "unique". But I probably gave bad idea!
Anyway, keep mu uptaded, i'm very curious about this story!
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Post by cyma on Nov 27, 2016 13:47:43 GMT -5
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Post by adzpower on Nov 27, 2016 16:02:51 GMT -5
These scenes are just so telling of the later seasons, we have Piper working on her cooking, Phoebe giving birth whilst Paige is of course the only one actually helping an innocent. I think it's great that even though she was the last sister to join, she is the only one who ended up upholding all their beliefs from the original seasons even though she wasn't there! |
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 28, 2016 10:54:43 GMT -5
UPDATE:
Hello I am still in the process of writing my fanfiction. I am currently doing research for an ongoing storyline. It turns out my sister and her friend wants to help me with the sisterly aspect of Prue, Phoenix and Paris, since we are sisters, my sister and I, are separating the roles, my sister and her friend are going to focus on the relationships between the sisters and I am going to focus on the powers and the magic aspect of this fan-fiction.
I am currently doing research on:
- Demonology.
- Folklore.
I am trying to make this as real as possible towards the original lore as possible. I don't know how other people are going to accept that concept but I am getting out of my comfort zone by doing a next generation rather than alternate realities. I hope you guys can appreciate the effort that I have put into the research but I completely understand constructive criticisms towards that move.
I will give Demons powers according to the Charmed universe rules, and I will try to get out as much character profiles as it takes to understand different characters and their 'motives'. I love the feedback I have been receiving lately and I have been using your suggestions to make this a great fanfic rather than a pathetic one.
I am a huge perfectionist and it would just kill me to have people hating on my fanfiction but I would totally understand if I need to change ideas.
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Post by unakite on Nov 28, 2016 13:24:22 GMT -5
These scenes are just so telling of the later seasons, we have Piper working on her cooking, Phoebe giving birth whilst Paige is of course the only one actually helping an innocent. I think it's great that even though she was the last sister to join, she is the only one who ended up upholding all their beliefs from the original seasons even though she wasn't there! You forget that they were talking about their life: Piper told that when the new generation took over, she finally opened her so long dreamt restaurant, this means that for a long time she went on with giving up her wishes due to her Charmed life And Phoebe talked of her job, beacuse she loved to help all the people, not only the innocents in danger Apparently, Paige went on with no one job, taking the responsibility of the education of her and her sisters's children and pleasing the Elders with her not appropriate role as whitelighter |
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Nov 28, 2016 13:30:21 GMT -5
No Brianna it's good to research as that makes you're story more beliveable with readers who then understand and get what your doing.
Also delegating roles with friends and family when they want to helps to so your not doing everything at once all by yourself.
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 28, 2016 13:38:12 GMT -5
No Brianna it's good to research as that makes you're story more beliveable with readers who then understand and get what your doing. Also delegating roles with friends and family when they want to helps to so your not doing everything at once all by yourself. Thank you, melindahalliwell, I wanted to make sure that doing research into different folklore's and actually reading about demons and how they really operate gives me a better insight of what I can accomplish with making my demons a bit more cunning because I want them to actually be intelligent and not just another plot device to make the Charmed Ones more powerful. I also wanted to make sure that my sister and her friend were totally on board so they gave me a few ideas and few ways to help me with this process. I have accessed them and they were great ideas that we will be discussing. |
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Post by lordumbrex on Nov 28, 2016 15:13:40 GMT -5
One of my graduate degrees is in folkloric studies, so if you're doing research, I feel that I have an interesting viewpoint on that side of the story: focus less on the law of the folklore and more on the spirit of it. By that, I mean, it's not necessary to have a one for one translation of the folkloric stories, but rather, keep the heart of the message in the folklore. If you think something doesn't add up or match up, be creative and find a way that it does match up in your story without casting out the underlying points of the folklore.
For example, if you want a villain to be a monster from folklore, but a lot of the characteristics of the monster are archaic, then update it. Like say, a monster that transformed itself into a horse in the past in order to capture it's rider could transform itself into a bike, a car, or something else entirely that fits today's world (no monster like this actually exists, though the Kelpie and the Oboroguruma both had a similar motive,). In other words, do not shackle yourself to folklore, but expand it and be creative with it while keeping the underlying heart of the stories. Good luck.
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 28, 2016 20:05:43 GMT -5
One of my graduate degrees is in folkloric studies, so if you're doing research, I feel that I have an interesting viewpoint on that side of the story: focus less on the law of the folklore and more on the spirit of it. By that, I mean, it's not necessary to have a one for one translation of the folkloric stories, but rather, keep the heart of the message in the folklore. If you think something doesn't add up or match up, be creative and find a way that it does match up in your story without casting out the underlying points of the folklore. For example, if you want a villain to be a monster from folklore, but a lot of the characteristics of the monster are archaic, then update it. Like say, a monster that transformed itself into a horse in the past in order to capture it's rider could transform itself into a bike, a car, or something else entirely that fits today's world (no monster like this actually exists, though the Kelpie and the Oboroguruma both had a similar motive,). In other words, do not shackle yourself to folklore, but expand it and be creative with it while keeping the underlying heart of the stories. Good luck. Thank you for you advice. I will keep this piece of information in mind. |
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Post by Assassin Witch on Nov 29, 2016 17:11:12 GMT -5
That is fantastic advice, lordumbrex! Lots of people can get hung up on details like that, but folklore was written many moons again and times have changed. therefore the progression of any elements of folklore would change with time, too, to keep up.
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Post by sol on Nov 30, 2016 2:15:31 GMT -5
May I suggest you to mix action and quiet moments of everyday life?
Often fanfics are too rushed
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Post by BriannaWarren on Nov 30, 2016 10:17:42 GMT -5
May I suggest you to mix action and quiet moments of everyday life? Often fanfics are too rushed Thank you for this suggestion, I will keep that in mind. I agree with you, I have see a few fanfictions that are too rushed into getting the demon attacks out of the way. For example, I read one that Prue and Phoebe were talking about Phoebe's future with her love life and all of a sudden, there was two demons that came out of no where and started attacking them. |
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Any demon or evil creature which is introduced isn’t random but somehow connected to the bigger story. 
But there has to be something better than this reason for calling upon the services of a Cupid or half-cupid witch.
