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Post by Granny Charmed on Jul 19, 2017 20:50:40 GMT -5
Considering that TheCW was going to do a "Charmed" prequel series, I would say...TheCW would put it on lol. Grimm has been on for 5 years and is on a bigger network. Charmed was on a pre-cursor to TheCW. Technology has advanced a lot from Charmed's day, the budget would be perfectly fine. They chose telekinesis/molecular stasis/premonitions for a reason, they aren't very expensive powers to portray. Charmed does well in the reruns which is exactly why a studio would want to bring it back. They probably wouldn't want the S5-8 Charmed, but give them a S3 type Charmed and it would be golden. Didn't CW say they were redeveloping Charmed for next season dear. After the reaction to the CW pilot and the old CBS pilot before it dears, clearly they know fans want the original cast back. I can't see Rose doing it, she doesn't want to do television again. Plus if they *did* really do this, don't expect 22 episodes. I can't see any of them wanting the long hours and months filming, especially when they are in their 40s. So it will only be a 10 episode order, 13 at most dears. If the CW's superhero shows are any indication, then the budget and special effects isn't a big problem. Especially if the series isn't 22 episodes and is much less. Remembering that CW dears isn't a big network like the other four. Plus television is constantly changing, *not* everybody watches live anymore. So streaming and DVR's get used more. So naturally, television ratings will be lower. This isn't like 20 years ago dears. I would *much* rather it end up on anywhere than CW, because it *could* fall back into the old problems it faced on WB in S5-8. We don't know how much influence CW might have on the show.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Jul 19, 2017 22:20:46 GMT -5
Considering that TheCW was going to do a "Charmed" prequel series, I would say...TheCW would put it on lol. Grimm has been on for 5 years and is on a bigger network. Charmed was on a pre-cursor to TheCW. Technology has advanced a lot from Charmed's day, the budget would be perfectly fine. They chose telekinesis/molecular stasis/premonitions for a reason, they aren't very expensive powers to portray. Charmed does well in the reruns which is exactly why a studio would want to bring it back. They probably wouldn't want the S5-8 Charmed, but give them a S3 type Charmed and it would be golden. Bull crap. Just because they do good in streaming doesn't mean they would do good on a network. Riverdale does amazing in streaming and yet failed to bring 1 million views consistently. A show doing well in streams does not equate to it doing well in network ratings. There is a countless number of shows that do well in streaming but do horrible in ratings. Look at Beauty and the Beast on CW or Jane The Virgin. Their ratings sucked barely bringing in 1 million viewers but did well in streaming. Same with Secret circle and Ringer. Like let's be realistic and not idealistic when talking about the success if charm. If the networks felt confident in a charm Spin off or continuation it would have been done by now. It never gets past the talk stage. Also alot of people like The Paige, piper and Phoebe trio more than the Prue, Piper and Phoebe trio. Charmed did 5 seasons with Paige and only 3 with Prue. However it learly isn't getting past the talk phase. 1. I never said that it doing good in streaming would equate to it doing good in ratings. 2. Streaming is the future and it is something that networks look at, specifically TheCW. Why do you think Gossip Girl and now Riverdale have survived? Netflix doesnt even have ratings, they go by streaming numbers which if Charmed is doing good at streaming what do you think would tempt them to revive it? Streaming. 3. Lets look at all the other shows that have/had been coming back: Full(er) House, Will & Grace, X-Files, Young Justice, Roseanne, Arrested Development, Gilmore Girls, Veronica Mars, Twin Peaks, list goes on. So what makes Charmed any different? If networks loved those so much they wouldn't have cancelled them in the first place? Where are all of the spin offs for those shows? 4. Even looking at Charmed's past ratings, it was one of TheWBs biggest shows for half of its run, thats a big deal. 5. Supernatural has been running for 12 seasons but has not garnered a spin off (one is currently in the works though and one failed to get off the ground) yet the show is still a success. 6. CBS talked about rebooting Charmed and now CW has talked about rebooting Charmed, so if it isn't successful or on anyones minds why would they even bother with the property? There is nothing about idealistic about this when the tv world we live in today a Charmed revival is VERY realistic.
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Post by Ruth Marie on Jul 20, 2017 0:13:47 GMT -5
The more I think of the idea, It does seem too much like redoing the first episode. Your right Es. Speaking of on twitter Holly responded to yet another person asking about this reboot, and again she went she has no idea and is normally the last person to know everything. Yet Alyssa and Shannen haven't said anything at all about it still. While Shannen has liked comments that are related to Prue not returning to Charmed. I'm still on the fence, I really hope this is something true but we can only take it with a grain of salt until something more official is known by E News, TV Guide or Deadline sites. That's so sad. Unless they were all told to be quiet until it's better worked out, sounds like it might be fake news after all. I guess we shouldn't get our hopes up. But If it were really fake, I did have a fun week thinking about all the possibilities. Bull crap. Just because they do good in streaming doesn't mean they would do good on a network. Riverdale does amazing in streaming and yet failed to bring 1 million views consistently. A show doing well in streams does not equate to it doing well in network ratings. There is a countless number of shows that do well in streaming but do horrible in ratings. Look at Beauty and the Beast on CW or Jane The Virgin. Their ratings sucked barely bringing in 1 million viewers but did well in streaming. Same with Secret circle and Ringer. Like let's be realistic and not idealistic when talking about the success if charm. If the networks felt confident in a charm Spin off or continuation it would have been done by now. It never gets past the talk stage. Also alot of people like The Paige, piper and Phoebe trio more than the Prue, Piper and Phoebe trio. Charmed did 5 seasons with Paige and only 3 with Prue. However it learly isn't getting past the talk phase. 1. I never said that it doing good in streaming would equate to it doing good in ratings. 2. Streaming is the future and it is something that networks look at, specifically TheCW. Why do you think Gossip Girl and now Riverdale have survived? Netflix doesnt even have ratings, they go by streaming numbers which if Charmed is doing good at streaming what do you think would tempt them to revive it? Streaming.3. Lets look at all the other shows that have/had been coming back: Full(er) House, Will & Grace, X-Files, Young Justice, Roseanne, Arrested Development, Gilmore Girls, Veronica Mars, Twin Peaks, list goes on. So what makes Charmed any different? If networks loved those so much they wouldn't have cancelled them in the first place? Where are all of the spin offs for those shows? 4. Even looking at Charmed's past ratings, it was one of TheWBs biggest shows for half of its run, thats a big deal. 5. Supernatural has been running for 12 seasons but has not garnered a spin off (one is currently in the works though and one failed to get off the ground) yet the show is still a success. 6. CBS talked about rebooting Charmed and now CW has talked about rebooting Charmed, so if it isn't successful or on anyones minds why would they even bother with the property? There is nothing about idealistic about this when the tv world we live in today a Charmed revival is VERY realistic. Yep, I think it is very realistic too. Especially with all the shows that have come back in the last 5 years alone. Couldn't agree more with you and others above stating that television is changing and more and more people watch through streaming and DVR shows now. But Charmed has an audience already, so it is more likely to take a chance at it. Maybe after seeing how bad the idea was received earlier this year, they will consider a series with the original cast. Half these revival shows have come back because of the popularity of Netflix and new generations of people finding them. So I think the success of Netflix is even why they have attempted at bringing Charmed back over the past 5 years, they just haven't found the right idea yet to make it work. Bringing back an old show isn't something that comes out of thin air, it is a long process. We just have to be patient.
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Post by rebooted on Jul 20, 2017 4:06:19 GMT -5
It would be cool if they picked up the story in the present day with a lot of similarities to how the original started. Maybe Phoebe and her daughter moved away from San Francisco and are now moving back into the Manor until they find their own place, while Prue and Piper have both recently been living in the Manor together with their daughters. That's a great idea Elle Em! And I can also see Piper running up the steps with her umbrella during the lightning storm, coming in and seeing Prue! Piper's daughter could be the one who is dating a warlock. Prue could be 'over' having an afterlife (lol Typical Prue), quiting that and starting up with ghost Andy or something. Silly ideas but parallels to the beginning would be great.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 4:27:50 GMT -5
You mean like a situation where prues soul is in someone's possession like Cole's father was? So we would have a series where the other three sisters try to save her from whoever has her? Maybe the necromancer who has dominion over the dead was resurrected once again unkownst to the sisters, and then after years of saving his energy and acquiring enough power is able to go after and gain possession of prue in retaliation against Penny. And penny now comes to the sisters for help in getting prue back. Yes, exactly. I think it would be the best reason for the sisters to "do battle" again after essentially retiring after defeating Christy and the Triad. It could potential be their most personal battle, plus I'd love to see Prue and Paige meet properly.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 20, 2017 5:20:45 GMT -5
You mean like a situation where prues soul is in someone's possession like Cole's father was? So we would have a series where the other three sisters try to save her from whoever has her? Maybe the necromancer who has dominion over the dead was resurrected once again unkownst to the sisters, and then after years of saving his energy and acquiring enough power is able to go after and gain possession of prue in retaliation against Penny. And penny now comes to the sisters for help in getting prue back. Yes, exactly. I think it would be the best reason for the sisters to "do battle" again after essentially retiring after defeating Christy and the Triad. It could potential be their most personal battle, plus I'd love to see Prue and Paige meet properly. That would be great if Rose wanted to be part of a series. I just don't think she will.
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Post by adzpower on Jul 20, 2017 5:46:24 GMT -5
I think streaming would be the number one reason this goes ahead, The CW especially has massive streaming numbers on netflix and has deals in place for most of their shows, Riverdale and iZombie do very poorly in ratings but their streaming numbers are so high and this is the reason they keep getting renewed.
Networks are starting to wake up and realize ratings aren't that indicative anymore. All their superhero shows have netflix deals in place as well, I think the CW could be the way to go, they are reliable, keep their shows going anyway they can, have good special effects budgets even for lower rated shows and have good streaming deals in place.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 20, 2017 6:17:14 GMT -5
I think streaming would be the number one reason this goes ahead, The CW especially has massive streaming numbers on netflix and has deals in place for most of their shows, Riverdale and iZombie do very poorly in ratings but their streaming numbers are so high and this is the reason they keep getting renewed. Networks are starting to wake up and realize ratings aren't that indicative anymore. All their superhero shows have netflix deals in place as well, I think the CW could be the way to go, they are reliable, keep their shows going anyway they can, have good special effects budgets even for lower rated shows and have good streaming deals in place. I'll agree as long as The CW let the producers (who I hope will be Shannen, Holly, Alyssa and Rose if she's part of it, much more than Connie or Kern...that might be what talks Rose into being part of it...) have creative license and don't stick their nose into it like The WB did - using sex on Charmed to try to save their dying network.
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Post by adzpower on Jul 20, 2017 10:59:19 GMT -5
I think streaming would be the number one reason this goes ahead, The CW especially has massive streaming numbers on netflix and has deals in place for most of their shows, Riverdale and iZombie do very poorly in ratings but their streaming numbers are so high and this is the reason they keep getting renewed. Networks are starting to wake up and realize ratings aren't that indicative anymore. All their superhero shows have netflix deals in place as well, I think the CW could be the way to go, they are reliable, keep their shows going anyway they can, have good special effects budgets even for lower rated shows and have good streaming deals in place. I'll agree as long as The CW let the producers (who I hope will be Shannen, Holly, Alyssa and Rose if she's part of it, much more than Connie or Kern...that might be what talks Rose into being part of it...) have creative license and don't stick their nose into it like The WB did - using sex on Charmed to try to save their dying network. Agreed 100%, either the girls need to be in charge, or they need a producer who understands what they want and what the show can do with good writing and good chemistry between the lead actors.
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Post by Granny Charmed on Jul 20, 2017 19:19:37 GMT -5
Holly Combs Says a Charmed Reboot Isn’t in the Works By: JULIANNA RESS Thu., Jul. 20, 2017 4:03 PM PDT Charmed fans, we have some bad news. After reports swirled around earlier this year of the fantasy series making a return to television, Holly Combs is finally shutting down the rumors. The actress posted a throwback Thursday Instagram picture today of her with her on-screen sisters Rose McGowan and Alyssa Milano from back in their Charmed days, and wrote in the caption, "I'm sorry to say that all the reboot rumors are just that… rumors." m.eonline.com/news/868318/holly-combs-says-a-charmed-reboot-isn-t-in-the-worksWell it was fun while it lasted dears. But never say never. Anything is possible in the future. But for now, it was too good to be true.
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Post by Assassin Witch on Jul 20, 2017 19:28:14 GMT -5
It's for the best. But brings some good fic ideas!
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 20, 2017 19:45:49 GMT -5
Funny, the fact that they say it's just in rumors stage not that it's fake news makes me still think there's still a chance... But maybe it's just because I want it so badly...
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Post by Ruth Marie on Jul 21, 2017 2:20:17 GMT -5
Oh well. But interesting that only Holly is the one making any comments on this reboot rumour. Shannen, Alyssa and Rose has said not a word. But with CW already saying they are redeveloping the Charmed project for next year's pilot season, we still have some slight hope.
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Post by adzpower on Jul 21, 2017 3:59:23 GMT -5
Hmmm....not sure what I believe, I mean, the original rumor was about Shannen and Alyssa, no mention of Holly, so for all we know she just isn't involved or doesn't know about it.
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Post by sky1 on Jul 21, 2017 4:26:55 GMT -5
Never say never. Just because it's not happening now. There is a chance in the future. Also funny that it's Holly the one who scraped the reboot idea, when the article said that Shannen and Alyssa were only just talking about it. Yet they said nothing. So while it may not be official. They may have really talked about the reboot. Many shows thought dead came back. Charmed to this day has enormous fan base, with getting even new fans due to Netflix. The show still has great potential. And if Shannen were to come back. Even fans who quit the show would come back. I just think it needs to be done carefully. No need for rushing anything. Plus Shannen is still recovering, so I don't think she can handle so many work hours.
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Post by rebooted on Jul 21, 2017 5:39:58 GMT -5
Let Alyssa have her own show with Shannen. Piper's character is pretty much done and I couldn't stand the complaining.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 21, 2017 5:43:25 GMT -5
Let Alyssa have her own show with Shannen. Piper's character is pretty much done and I couldn't stand the complaining. That would make an interesting reboot and could definitely be done. Just have Piper be the one who died rather than Prue...with their two daughters able to be Chosen to continue the destiny, not Charmed. Piper-fans would be as irritated as Paige-fans (as were Prue-fans when Shannen was fired), but since it probably wouldn't have included Wyatt and Chris, they'd be irritated anyway - and wouldn't have to watch, the way I wish I hadn't watched S4-8, even if I'm glad I did because I never would've been part of the Cafe and met so many wonderful people if I hadn't. And unlike Prue-fans/Original P3 fans, the Second-Set fans still have the comics.
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Post by Elle Em on Jul 21, 2017 6:58:11 GMT -5
Let Alyssa have her own show with Shannen. Piper's character is pretty much done and I couldn't stand the complaining. You know, I actually think this would be kind of cool. I'd love to have the three together again, but I came to despise Piper by the end of the show, and if they just pick up where they left off with her regarding her attitude, I'd rather not see her again at all. Perhaps Prue's presence would change things, but Piper was written as whiny and mean for at least half the show, if not more. I don't know if she'd be any different now. Prue and Phoebe were always the most interesting to me in terms of their relationship that was a combination of love and tension. Any time it was the two of them in the show, I always found it interesting. It probably won't ever happen, but an idea for a potential show not including Holly could be that all sisters survived, Paige never existed (because I have a feeling Rose won't want anything to do with this), and Piper and Leo decided to have a more normal life and move out of the Manor while Prue and Phoebe continued sharing it. I just watched Prewitched where that very scenario almost happened, and I think it could have been interesting with just Prue and Phoebe.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 21, 2017 7:05:59 GMT -5
Let Alyssa have her own show with Shannen. Piper's character is pretty much done and I couldn't stand the complaining. You know, I actually think this would be kind of cool. I'd love to have the three together again, but I came to despise Piper by the end of the show, and if they just pick up where they left off with her regarding her attitude, I'd rather not see her again at all. Perhaps Prue's presence would change things, but Piper was written as whiny and mean for at least half the show, if not more. I don't know if she'd be any different now. She started getting whiney and mean the second she told Leo she loved him and not Dan. Prue living wouldn't have changed her. Agreed, totally. It would be fun to find something else besides Cole for them to disagree on and see what happens. Say like when they're training their daughters, they don't agree on how to do it... Agreed, totally, on all counts. And that way if Holly ever wanted to guest-star she could. Or if she wanted to become a regular, Piper could move back. I admit I like that even better than Piper being the one who died during 'All Hell Breaks Loose'.
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Post by sky1 on Jul 21, 2017 7:06:14 GMT -5
Well if the show ever gets rebooted. They can simple erase S4-8. Paige wouldn't exist then (but as other have pointed out, Rose wouldn't want to be on the show again). This would also solve Piper problems, since at that point she was still good and interesting character!
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