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Post by purelywyatt on Feb 10, 2018 21:12:59 GMT -5
Some audition videos for the reboot casting has leaked or been put up online. Obviously, don't expect any of these people to be cast dears, but it will give a good sense of the characters and learn a little more about the show. I haven't seen them all. But from what I did watch, it appears the sister's mother had passed away prior to the series and Harry will be the one to tell them they are witches. I have to say, I'm too high on Galvin and hoping that it's just a casting script and not what the character will be like or do in the series. Again, I'm trying to judge on what the script is saying and not the actors (who I doubt will be cast for having their video's leaked online) Oh wow I was just about to post that they'll be ramping up on casting in the coming weeks so they can film the pilot in March in hopes for an early pick up in May. That aside, I REALLY hope what these actors are reading from are just drafts. However, from what I'm getting from these videos Harry is gonna be sort of the comical relief in this and very cocky. The Mel character doesn't seem all that bad but just by these audition videos I guess I know who'll be my least favorite sister in this-Madison!. I guess they're going with an apocalypse thing, I don't know how I feel about that. I wonder if they'll fight demons in other states like The Winchester brothers from Supernatural. It always bothered me that the most powerful witches in the world always fought evil in one place. Surely there are other evils in parts of the country that can't be vanquished by a normal witch. I'll give this show a chance. Fingers crossed it's good beside these lackluster auditions & lines.
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Post by West on Feb 11, 2018 7:05:56 GMT -5
Some audition videos for the reboot casting has leaked or been put up online. Obviously, don't expect any of these people to be cast dears, but it will give a good sense of the characters and learn a little more about the show. I haven't seen them all. But from what I did watch, it appears the sister's mother had passed away prior to the series and Harry will be the one to tell them they are witches. I have to say, I'm too high on Galvin and hoping that it's just a casting script and not what the character will be like or do in the series. Again, I'm trying to judge on what the script is saying and not the actors (who I doubt will be cast for having their video's leaked online) Can't say I'm happy to see the words Elders uttered yet again. I was hoping we would be free of Elders and Whitelighters in the reboot. So we already have an underworld and something to do with an apocalypse. Not a single trace of a Warlock is mentioned, only demons. Hearing the words apocalypse immediately makes me of other supernatural drama's.
I don't like some of the writing, hoping it is really just a draft to get the casting they need and most of what is said and written doesn't make it on the series. The youngest sibling Madison really makes me roll my eyes and rubs me the wrong way. She's definitely no Phoebe, and the Phoebe I grew to love in season 1. The way she is written is exactly the fears Prue had of Phoebe thinking she cheated on Roger and came back from New York to the manor to sell the house. In the reboot, it is the opposite and she cheats on her boyfriend and suggests selling the manor. But she's only 18, and they are writing her with the typical teenage angst. I can firmly say if this is how the youngest sister is written, she sounds ten times worse than Phoebe I hated in Season 5-8, and that is saying something. I'm hoping this is just a draft and nothing of what she will turn out in the reboot. I hope it isn't as bad as the audition videos and drafts are making it out to be.
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Post by Ruth Marie on Feb 11, 2018 18:31:12 GMT -5
Like most people here, I don't like the way Madison is being portrayed too. I'm hoping they haven't merged Phoebe and Piper into the youngest sister. I do like the idea of Prue and Phoebe being the two sisters growing up, with the oldest sister being the Paige character this time around.
I hope the reboot learns from all the mistakes the original Charmed series made, and please have the continuity remain in check. They really need to hire someone whose whole job is reading over scripts and making sure that the stories and continuity don't have errors throughout the series.
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 11, 2018 19:29:04 GMT -5
Like most people here, I don't like the way Madison is being portrayed too. I'm hoping they haven't merged Phoebe and Piper into the youngest sister. I do like the idea of Prue and Phoebe being the two sisters growing up, with the oldest sister being the Paige character this time around. I hope the reboot learns from all the mistakes the original Charmed series made, and please have the continuity remain in check. They really need to hire someone whose whole job is reading over scripts and making sure that the stories and continuity don't have errors throughout the series. I think what they mainly need is for these writers to be the *only* writers as they know what their show is all about and can keep them that way. All those different Charmed writers - I think that was a mistake because each of them saw the Charmed Ones differently and didn't seem to want to keep it consistent with what the other writers wrote, despite a lot of them were also called executive producers, like Sheryl J. Anderson not knowing that they'd already shown Victor HALLIWELL in 'Thank You For Not Morphing', so Penny couldn't be a Halliwell and Patty couldn't have kept her married name the way Penny said she did in 'That Seventies Episode' - a Season One episode! Even though Sheryl will always be my favorite Charmed writer for the way she wrote the sisters, I actually liked the scripts that Connie Burge and Brad Kern wrote together while not caring for the ones that they wrote by themselves as much. IF they'd written all of the episodes, I think Connie would've made sure that Holly and Phoebe played herself and her sister while Kern knew how to bring drama without being consistent. Together they may have put together a much-better (well, at least more-consistent) show. And then, as you suggested, if they had a show bible, the way Gene Roddenberry of Star Trek fame, that showed how everything worked, well, wow! So hopefully the reboot will do something similar.
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Post by rebooted on Feb 11, 2018 23:22:45 GMT -5
Like most people here, I don't like the way Madison is being portrayed too. I'm hoping they haven't merged Phoebe and Piper into the youngest sister. I do like the idea of Prue and Phoebe being the two sisters growing up, with the oldest sister being the Paige character this time around. I hope the reboot learns from all the mistakes the original Charmed series made, and please have the continuity remain in check. They really need to hire someone whose whole job is reading over scripts and making sure that the stories and continuity don't have errors throughout the series. I think what they mainly need is for these writers to be the *only* writers as they know what their show is all about and can keep them that way. All those different Charmed writers - I think that was a mistake because each of them saw the Charmed Ones differently and didn't seem to want to keep it consistent with what the other writers wrote, despite a lot of them were also called executive producers, like Sheryl J. Anderson not knowing that they'd already shown Victor HALLIWELL in 'Thank You For Not Morphing', so Penny couldn't be a Halliwell and Patty couldn't have kept her married name the way Penny said she did in 'That Seventies Episode' - a Season One episode! Even though Sheryl will always be my favorite Charmed writer for the way she wrote the sisters, I actually liked the scripts that Connie Burge and Brad Kern wrote together while not caring for the ones that they wrote by themselves as much. IF they'd written all of the episodes, I think Connie would've made sure that Holly and Phoebe played herself and her sister while Kern knew how to bring drama without being consistent. Together they may have put together a much-better (well, at least more-consistent) show. And then, as you suggested, if they had a show bible, the way Gene Roddenberry of Star Trek fame, that showed how everything worked, well, wow! So hopefully the reboot will do something similar. Is James the Andy or Leo character, I can't tell.
Also, I also hope they don't morph Piper's character with Phoebes
I do agree with you Ruth Marie, just having the Prue and Phoebe character growing up together and the Paige character being the oldest.
I feel like Piper's character is the trademark Charmed character for the original Charmed and a lot of her 'uptightness' can be incorporated into Prue's character.
(My gosh, I am calling Charmed "The Original").
Also something that we're missing here... isn't the 4th character... Mel's lesbian lover? could she be Piper character?
But also, what I liked about the opening credits in late Season 1 -3 is the story that is told, them discovering that they were witches, they are obviously sisters in an old Victorian house. And the roll out of the starring credits in age order with their powers an extension of their emotions and personalities, Prue-Protective, Piper-Panicky and Phoebe-visionary.
I would want to easily identify who is the oldest and who is the youngest and who is in the middle. I feel like the oldest should be the ethnically diverse one. Mel reluctantly becomes the middle, who is the oldest of the pair is the LGBTI one with her little sister being the Phoebe character - always getting into trouble?
This is the part I am struggling with the most - is the dynamics between the sisters. Does anyone have an insight?
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Post by West on Feb 11, 2018 23:40:23 GMT -5
I think what they mainly need is for these writers to be the *only* writers as they know what their show is all about and can keep them that way. All those different Charmed writers - I think that was a mistake because each of them saw the Charmed Ones differently and didn't seem to want to keep it consistent with what the other writers wrote, despite a lot of them were also called executive producers, like Sheryl J. Anderson not knowing that they'd already shown Victor HALLIWELL in 'Thank You For Not Morphing', so Penny couldn't be a Halliwell and Patty couldn't have kept her married name the way Penny said she did in 'That Seventies Episode' - a Season One episode! Even though Sheryl will always be my favorite Charmed writer for the way she wrote the sisters, I actually liked the scripts that Connie Burge and Brad Kern wrote together while not caring for the ones that they wrote by themselves as much. IF they'd written all of the episodes, I think Connie would've made sure that Holly and Phoebe played herself and her sister while Kern knew how to bring drama without being consistent. Together they may have put together a much-better (well, at least more-consistent) show. And then, as you suggested, if they had a show bible, the way Gene Roddenberry of Star Trek fame, that showed how everything worked, well, wow! So hopefully the reboot will do something similar. Is James the Andy or Leo character, I can't tell.
Also, I also hope they don't morph Piper's character with Phoebes
I do agree with you Ruth Marie, just having the Prue and Phoebe character growing up together and the Paige character being the oldest.
I feel like Piper's character is the trademark Charmed character for the original and a lot of her 'uptightness' can be incorporated into Prue's character.
(My gosh, I am calling Charmed "The Original").
Also something that we're missing here... isn't the 4th character... Mel's lesbian lover? could she be Piper character?
Mel's partner is the Andy since she is a detective and Harry is the Leo. The other character's I'm wondering if one of them turns out to be the Cole and the other is just the non-magical boyfriend maybe that's Galvin. I actually wished the Andy character wasn't Mel's partner, and more the female version of Darryl and an ally for the sisters and not involved with one of the sisters. So I just hope Harry who is the Leo isn't going to be involved with one of the sisters. The show needs at least one supporting cast member who isn't involved with any of the sisters. I hope they don't morph Piper's character into the youngest sister too. But I fear this based off the audition videos for Madison, and Connie Burge based Phoebe on herself, so It will be interesting to find out which of the sisters is based on themselves or their own siblings, and where they find their inspiration from. It really is going to take some time getting used to calling the Charmed we know and love the Original series. I liked how they did the opening credits too. I doubt they have credits since that is what they don't do much on network television these days and mostly just have the show title being shown. But I am curious if the opening recap or previously on Charmed will follow a similar pattern with recapping a general intro for the series.
I have a feeling that the oldest might be the ethnically diverse one too.
It is hard to get a read on the dynamics. Since I have a feeling they want to use something from all four of the original. Will the oldest act like Paige and the only child, or will she act more like Prue and the oldest? I get the sense Madison is a mix of Piper and Phoebe.
I guess we can't know for sure until we see all the sisters together, and are able to see how they work. We won't find this out until the pilot is filmed and picked up to series. Unless industry insiders who get to see the pilot early during the upfronts review the Charmed reboot.
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Post by Granny Charmed on Feb 12, 2018 5:45:31 GMT -5
Like most people here, I don't like the way Madison is being portrayed too. I'm hoping they haven't merged Phoebe and Piper into the youngest sister. I do like the idea of Prue and Phoebe being the two sisters growing up, with the oldest sister being the Paige character this time around. I hope the reboot learns from all the mistakes the original Charmed series made, and please have the continuity remain in check. They really need to hire someone whose whole job is reading over scripts and making sure that the stories and continuity don't have errors throughout the series. I think what they mainly need is for these writers to be the *only* writers as they know what their show is all about and can keep them that way. All those different Charmed writers - I think that was a mistake because each of them saw the Charmed Ones differently and didn't seem to want to keep it consistent with what the other writers wrote, despite a lot of them were also called executive producers, like Sheryl J. Anderson not knowing that they'd already shown Victor HALLIWELL in 'Thank You For Not Morphing', so Penny couldn't be a Halliwell and Patty couldn't have kept her married name the way Penny said she did in 'That Seventies Episode' - a Season One episode! Even though Sheryl will always be my favorite Charmed writer for the way she wrote the sisters, I actually liked the scripts that Connie Burge and Brad Kern wrote together while not caring for the ones that they wrote by themselves as much. IF they'd written all of the episodes, I think Connie would've made sure that Holly and Phoebe played herself and her sister while Kern knew how to bring drama without being consistent. Together they may have put together a much-better (well, at least more-consistent) show. And then, as you suggested, if they had a show bible, the way Gene Roddenberry of Star Trek fame, that showed how everything worked, well, wow! So hopefully the reboot will do something similar. I truly hope dear this is what they do, it would be so great to have some consistency, and the true creator's vision being what we get for the series, without a complete change in direction like what happened in the show. Connie and Brad worked better as a pair and might be why I liked the episodes they did together namely Secrets and Guys and Deja Vu. Deja Vu was the only final episode to a season I truly enjoyed. Might be why Phoebe was written so wonderfully in S1 and 2, because she was based on Connie herself dear, and why once Connie had left, Phoebe's character was ruined. It's too bad Connie and Brad couldn't agree and find a way to compromise storylines, because as you said we may have had a much-better or at least more consistent show. Fingers crossed this is *what* happens with the reboot. That the two ladies in charge of this reboot can be the sole leaders of the show and guide the story they want to tell. Agree with a show bible! That is an asset for a show to always have.
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Post by cyma on Feb 12, 2018 8:33:23 GMT -5
This^. However, she's thankfully way better than Madison. Madison is worst parts of Cordelia Chase(Buffy), Thea Queen(Arrow), Caroline Forbes(Vampire Diaries), Hannah Marin(Pretty Little Liars), Regina George(Mean Girls) and her two besties/minions. Besides, Madison is eighteen. Why is she written to act like a ten year old having a tantrum which three year olds normally have? From what planet does these eighteen year olds in movies and TV shows come from? And Macy the scientist wants the white picket fence life and was cheating on her boyfriend with a guy named Oscar? Like....what the actual hell? Where's the science nerd she was described as? But I give the award for worst ever character I've ever come across to be Harry. He's like the Billie Jenkins of the reboot. The dude couldn't even read the apocalypse prophecy without trying to crack a joke. Add Madison interrupting him with some useless comment or the other to create a comedic effect and it's just a disaster. This is one of the many reasons I disliked later seasons of Charmed. It's like everyone was trying to crack a joke by inserting what's happening in their romantic life rather than have a normal conversation or strategy discussion. And now the comedic relief is going to be the whitelighter who'll probably hover around constantly teach and guide while making a million jokes? As the sisters bicker among themselves refuse to listen to him and try to get on with their lives? Because it would make the reboot fiercely, funny and feminist? Unless the show has planned to kill off every assigned whitelighter of the sisters in each episode or Harry is secretly a demon who will be vanquished in the first episode, then fine I guess. If not, then instead of the 'devilishly handsome' advisor, get a female whitelighter for the girls. An older woman which Mel can't think thoughts about getting into a relationship with. To balance out childishness of Madison and snapping of angry Mel and inevitable romantic drama of the sisters, get a strict, no nonsense Professor Minerva McGonagall(I'll settle for Snape too) type as a regular female character. Or in other words get a Prue. Or Grams. Or Natalie even. Better written version of their personalities ofcourse. Toss out Harry's unfunny butt and let a woman be the whitelighter guide and protect these girls. Because they desperately need that with the way they seem to be written.
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Post by purelywyatt on Feb 12, 2018 17:50:10 GMT -5
I was reading Esmeralda's post again with a member's very own reboot idea and I was inspired. I also took some elements from my friend's Charmed story and came up with this and what I had hoped a reboot would look like. "CHARMED"Estranged sisters Ginnifer, Gabby and Grace Montgomery discover they are gifted witches. Each is strong, but once together they are The Charmed Ones- the most powerful magical triad the world has ever known. With the guidance from their eccentric aunt, the sisters must re-build their fractured relationship and learn the craft in order to do their duties of vanquishing evil and being protectors of the innocent. BACKSTORY
Lila Grayson Montgomery and Garrett Montgomery were married for 19 years. They produced three beautiful daughters. All very different from each other but also uncannily similar. Lila and her oldest daughter Ginnifer's relationship was always strained because of her controlling manners and often trying to taint or thwart her daughter's dream of moving from Salem to New York to become a writer. Once the discovery of her parent's marital woes and impending divorce, a 16 year old Ginnifer makes the decision to leave with her father. It's been almost 7 years since she's talked to her mom and sisters but through the years has kept in contact with her Aunt Ivy who she sees more like an older sister. Now with news of her mother's sudden death (heart attack in the attic), Ginnifer must return to her hometown to bury her mother and discovers her and her sisters destiny as The Power of Three. CHARACTER BIOSGinnifer "Gin" Elizabeth is a successful 26 year old writer for the New York Times. She is even-keeled, extremely capable and fiercely independent. Although she comes off cool and distant, Ginnifer is very caring and compassionate. Out of all the sisters, she is the most reluctant to the craft leaving all the demonic duties to her sisters and aunt and only showing up for the vanquishing. This causes more rifts between her and her siblings especially Grace. She is very close to her documentary making father who now lives in Aspen and blames her mother for her parents' divorce, an issue that comes up regularly between her and Grace. Once she accepts her magical heritage, Ginnifer becomes a formidable force since she is the oldest and most powerful of the trio. Her power is time freezing.
Grace Ashley (24) is the middle sister of the Montgomery clan. She is extremely confident and honest. Grace is also very stubborn and likes to stand by her own views. Grace bounces with vigor and character which is the complete opposite of her older sister. Grace can also come off as very judgmental toward others. She was very close to her mother and was the last one to see her before she died. She resents both her father and Ginnifer for abandoning the family. Grace is sexually fluid and has commitment issues and has never been in a relationship no longer than 2 months. She works at her Aunt Ivy's bar as a bartender. Grace is the most excited once learning of her wiccan heritage and takes the task to heart as protector of the innocent. She is also the first to master her power of telekinesis.
Gabrielle Penelope (21) affectionately called "Gabby" or "Gabs" is the youngest Montgomery sister. She is a witty individual and known fondly for her liberal thinking and bohemian style. Gabby is intuitive and even tempered and can usually be counted on for a sarcastic or cynical remark. She is very honest and usually harbors no secrets in voicing her opinions. Growing up, Gabby considered herself the "Invisible Child" because it seemed her parents always paid more attention to her sisters and not her. She is currently in her final year at college working on a bachelor's degree in Social Work and works at a Suicide Hotline. When it is discovered that she is a witch, Gabrielle is ecstatic but also doubtful that she and her sisters can work together to save people. Gabby wields the power of Premonition.
Ivy Laurel Grayson (42) is the free-spirited aunt of the Montgomery Trio. She takes up the mantle as the girls' guide and mentor with all things magic. Although she never exhibited active or passive powers, Ivy can invoke magic through spells and is a master at potion making even using witch recipes in her signature drinks at her bar.
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Post by cyma on Feb 13, 2018 6:39:12 GMT -5
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Post by Granny Charmed on Feb 13, 2018 6:56:53 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this dear! I didn't particularly care for the Buffy references. But liked hearing her thoughts and opinions on Charmed. She *should* join this Cafe.
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Post by Ruth Marie on Feb 13, 2018 16:36:06 GMT -5
Some interesting points here.
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 13, 2018 19:06:10 GMT -5
Although I disagree with her regarding Season Four (Connie was gone by that point...only her ideas remained, but were twisted by Kern), I'll totally agree regarding the earlier seasons with Kern starting his twisting in Season Three. But as she said - this was the 1990's/2000's and "feminism" was much more about empowering females (girl power) as compared to trying to make them seem better than men.
Like her, I still wish the reboot would just name itself something different, but we know that won't happen. And if indeed it ends up being all about trying to "get rid of the patriarchy" and gets preachy or if their sense of humor is similar to what's in the audition tape, I'll stop watching. BUT I'm willing to give Charmed 2.0 a try, but never try to actually compare it with Classic Charmed (I prefer that to original Charmed...) but as a totally different show that's mildly similar since they take place in totally different eras.
Like I keep saying, if it's about sisters who happen to be witches and if they find actresses who truly feel like sisters the way Shannen, Holly and Alyssa did, I'll be interested. If it's about demon-hunters who happen to be related and don't have much of a connection because they're too tied up with their love lives like Poor, Poor Pitiful Piper, PhoeME/Freebie and Ditzy Valley Girl did, I won't.
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Post by Ruth Marie on Feb 14, 2018 16:59:01 GMT -5
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 14, 2018 19:48:07 GMT -5
At least this is a different guy than the one in the auditions. Hopefully that means that the ones in the auditions aren't going to be given roles.
But I'm not sure what I think of them casting a boyfriend before casting the sisters...I'd think they'd want to cast them first to see if the guy has any chemistry with the girls.
BUT then I'm not sure if we can trust these sites...
It's like there's some so-called "leaked trailers" out but I'm 99.9% certain they're fanmade so I'm not even going to share them.
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Post by Assassin Witch on Feb 14, 2018 21:05:27 GMT -5
Yeah..I'm more like....None of the leads were cast...you'd think that would be priority. Though, when I look at Pretty Little Liars, the first two cast were Troian (Spencer) and Ian (Ezra). So I guess I'm -not- surprised?
CW moving back to Sunday programming. Because they've got a lot of pilots they want. hmmmmmmmmmmm
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Post by purelywyatt on Feb 14, 2018 21:07:45 GMT -5
As I predicted, casting is ramping up for the March film schedule. I'm actually fine with this casting. He was awesome in Jumanji and I had a feeling they would cast a black guy for the role Galvin which is funny cause the name means white in Gaelic lol. As for programs on Sundays, it's a good thing but it'll be very disrespectful if this show's premiere date is the original's 20th anniversary.
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Post by Granny Charmed on Feb 15, 2018 3:06:21 GMT -5
I'm hoping the reason dears they haven't cast the sisters yet, is they are spending *more* time to find the best chemistry possible for the sisters between themselves. Not wanting to rush. I can only hope, and that casting this particular actor for the supporting cast was much easier.
But yes you would think they want the sister's first cast, and all the supporting cast should work around them to get chemistry for love interests. Not the other way round.
So CW is bringing back Sunday. Please don't tell me they intend Charmed's reboot to begin on Sunday, October 7th at 8:00 p.m exactly 20 years from when Charmed started. That is VERY disrespectful. I hope if they do want it on Sundays, start it the week after on the 14th.
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Post by purelywyatt on Feb 15, 2018 20:39:47 GMT -5
I'm hoping the reason dears they haven't cast the sisters yet, is they are spending *more* time to find the best chemistry possible for the sisters between themselves. Not wanting to rush. I can only hope, and that casting this particular actor for the supporting cast was much easier. But yes you would think they want the sister's first cast, and all the supporting cast should work around them to get chemistry for love interests. Not the other way round. So CW is bringing back Sunday. Please don't tell me they intend Charmed's reboot to begin on Sunday, October 7th at 8:00 p.m exactly 20 years from when Charmed started. That is VERY disrespectful. I hope if they do want it on Sundays, start it the week after on the 14th. To piggy back on your statement Granny Charmed, I like to think their request for all ethnicicties for the roles of the sisters have come back to bite them in their butts. Just imagine if a Latina actress knocks it out of the park for the role of Mel. Only to have a black and a blond haired blue eyed actresses have the casting directors swooning from their portrayal of the roles of the other respective sisters. Which can leave the casting directors in a tough spot because they'll have to choose the ethnicity of the other girls from the stronger actress. Which is why they should've thought out all this before. Blind casting only works great with ensemble shows where characters don't share kinship. For example, Grey's Anatomy and all the other Shondaland shows. If the creators want to be diverse and represent top races: they already have Soo, an Asian; Galvin is African American; cast "Harry" as a British Columbian (like Sean Teale who plays Eclipse from The Gifted) or a British Indian (like Dev Patel from The Lion). Obviously Brian will be white and the sisters could be of Italian descent or biracial. That way the show is different and diverse and inclusive than of the original. Maybe I'm just rambling and overthinking it but I think they're stumped with casting of the girls
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Post by askfreebie on Feb 16, 2018 13:42:25 GMT -5
Why did they change the power of the youngest from Premonition to mind reading? 😒
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