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Post by Miranda Turner on Jul 25, 2018 6:23:06 GMT -5
That's a disservice to female characters and female viewers. It most definitely is. Unfortunately the younger female generation whom The CW is pointing the reboot at probably won't realize that for another ten/twenty years. I'm very curious to see if Classic Charmed fans who were teenagers or in their twenties when Classic Charmed originally aired will react towards Ripoff Charmed the way I did towards Classic Charmed. If they do a storyline like Cole's (and they almost have to - it's SOOOO #MeToo! Phoebe could be the one who could say, "Me, too.") will those fans still see it as love or as obsession? I was basically a child and young teen when Charmed aired. So this should be an interesting experience for me. Will I feel the same way about certain stories I did watching Classic Charmed. Especially another Cole showing up. If they want to go strong on Metoo, then perhaps this time the sister might go through vanquishing their Cole the first time. But I won't be surprised they used Metoo and have a sister conflicted about her love for a demon but in the end vanquishing him. Maybe they will let the older sister fall for the Cole. Maybe the Cole will be a female demon this time and the middle sister falls for her. I hope that unlike Brad Kern who torched Classic Charmed and had no real passion but treated it as just a paycheck. The reboot's female producers have passion and love for their show that they produce a good consistent series.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 25, 2018 6:50:04 GMT -5
It most definitely is. Unfortunately the younger female generation whom The CW is pointing the reboot at probably won't realize that for another ten/twenty years. I'm very curious to see if Classic Charmed fans who were teenagers or in their twenties when Classic Charmed originally aired will react towards Ripoff Charmed the way I did towards Classic Charmed. If they do a storyline like Cole's (and they almost have to - it's SOOOO #MeToo! Phoebe could be the one who could say, "Me, too.") will those fans still see it as love or as obsession? I was basically a child and young teen when Charmed aired. So this should be an interesting experience for me. Will I feel the same way about certain stories I did watching Classic Charmed. Especially another Cole showing up. If they want to go strong on Metoo, then perhaps this time the sister might go through vanquishing their Cole the first time. But I won't be surprised they used Metoo and have a sister conflicted about her love for a demon but in the end vanquishing him. Maybe they will let the older sister fall for the Cole. Maybe the Cole will be a female demon this time and the middle sister falls for her. I hope that unlike Brad Kern who torched Classic Charmed and had no real passion but treated it as just a paycheck. The reboot's female producers have passion and love for their show that they produce a good consistent series. And here’s hoping that they’re never replaced by a male chauvinist pig, while also hoping that they never become male-haters with every male on the show either evil or wimpy. Two wrongs never make a right.
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Post by Assassin Witch on Jul 25, 2018 10:14:59 GMT -5
The Cole storyline...yeah, only if it ends in vanquish.
Chris... Aka kids from the future? I don't know how my reaction would be. On concept, I love it and wish Chris-Crossed was a multi-episode arc. And you know what we did with Reset Reality. So with better writing... I may still enjoy it.
But the Cole....nah, man. No thank you. Bye.
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Post by ljones on Jul 27, 2018 21:17:27 GMT -5
I don't want them to rehash Cole's story line either, considering the crap fest that Brad Kern turned it into in the original series. I don't trust the new show runner to do better. Unless this new show can prove it can handle moral ambiguity. However, I doubt it very much.
I also noticed that the youngest sister is a telepath, instead of a seer. Also, the oldest sister, who is half-sister of the second and third sibling, is a combination of Prue and Paige. How interesting.
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Post by rebooted on Jul 28, 2018 3:26:34 GMT -5
I don't want them to rehash Cole's story line either, considering the crap fest that Brad Kern turned it into in the original series. I don't trust the new show runner to do better. Unless this new show can prove it can handle moral ambiguity. However, I doubt it very much. I also noticed that the youngest sister is a telepath, instead of a seer. Also, the oldest sister, who is half-sister of the second and third sibling, is a combination of Prue and Paige. How interesting. I do quite like the Oldest Sister being the long lost half sister and that the 2nd and 1st collide with each other - not something we got in Charmed. Also, I don't know how useful telepathy will be? I feel like Astral Projection would have been a better power.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Jul 28, 2018 6:15:27 GMT -5
Unless they do what Jean Grey could in X Men touching someone's forehead and having her see whoever's past or future that was then.
If the sisters power grew to where she wouldn't have to physically touch anyone anymore then she could determine an evils next move more and have her and her sisters avoid that if it was dangerous then.
She'd be a human lie detector and know wherever someone was good or evil.
And being able to communicate using her thoughts she could having an idea in a fight tell her sisters what to do without evil knowing unless they have telepathy too of course.
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Post by ljones on Jul 29, 2018 21:35:39 GMT -5
I believe telepathy can be much more useful than astral projection. Not only can you read a person's mind, you can also control the minds of others. Telepathic manipulation.
Really? I thought Cole would be the one to say "Me too" . . . along with Darryl Morris. Come to think of it, the Halliwells had a bad history, ever since they became witches, of mishandling their relationships.
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 2, 2018 19:51:01 GMT -5
Yup, that's the MeToo Classic Charmed promoted - feeling sorry for the stalker, the infamous antihero. This reboot is supposed to be toppling the patriarchy, so I'm sure if they do the Cole/Phoebe story, it will be set up so Reboot Cole's the bad guy. That's what I'm wondering - what would Classic Charmed fans' reaction be to something like that.
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Post by pheebs on Oct 2, 2018 20:30:48 GMT -5
Yup, that's the MeToo Classic Charmed promoted - feeling sorry for the stalker, the infamous antihero. This reboot is supposed to be toppling the patriarchy, so I'm sure if they do the Cole/Phoebe story, it will be set up so Reboot Cole's the bad guy. That's what I'm wondering - what would Classic Charmed fans' reaction be to something like that. The Current MeToo mentality would mean they'd have to set it up that the bad guy stays evil. And one of the sisters deals with the aftermath and feelings of why she let this bad guy take advantage of her. So I think reboot Cole may well pretend to want to change, but acting all along in order to kill the Charmed Ones. Even doing so, just to split up the sisters. Before whichever sister was involved with him realizes, he was just using her, and then he'll be vanquished, and you have all the MeToo aftermath, with the other two helping their sister deal with feeling taken advantage of by the bad guy. With the sister left traumatized by what he put her through, that will come back to MeToo with the others helping her through her experience.
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 2, 2018 20:44:44 GMT -5
Yup, that's the MeToo Classic Charmed promoted - feeling sorry for the stalker, the infamous antihero. This reboot is supposed to be toppling the patriarchy, so I'm sure if they do the Cole/Phoebe story, it will be set up so Reboot Cole's the bad guy. That's what I'm wondering - what would Classic Charmed fans' reaction be to something like that. The Current MeToo mentality would mean they'd have to set it up that the bad guy stays evil. And one of the sisters deals with the aftermath and feelings of why she let this bad guy take advantage of her. So I think reboot Cole may well pretend to want to change, but acting all along in order to kill the Charmed Ones. Even doing so, just to split up the sisters. Before whichever sister was involved with him realizes, he was just using her, and then he'll be vanquished, and you have all the MeToo aftermath, with the other two helping their sister deal with feeling taken advantage of by the bad guy. With the sister left traumatized by what he put her through, that will come back to MeToo with the others helping her through her experience. Remember, people, you heard it here first! Great job, Pheebs! I wouldn't be surprised if it's played out exactly as you said.
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Post by Sasha on Oct 2, 2018 22:11:17 GMT -5
The Current MeToo mentality would mean they'd have to set it up that the bad guy stays evil. And one of the sisters deals with the aftermath and feelings of why she let this bad guy take advantage of her. So I think reboot Cole may well pretend to want to change, but acting all along in order to kill the Charmed Ones. Even doing so, just to split up the sisters. Before whichever sister was involved with him realizes, he was just using her, and then he'll be vanquished, and you have all the MeToo aftermath, with the other two helping their sister deal with feeling taken advantage of by the bad guy. With the sister left traumatized by what he put her through, that will come back to MeToo with the others helping her through her experience. Remember, people, you heard it here first! Great job, Pheebs! I wouldn't be surprised if it's played out exactly as you said. Yup, We heard it here first! Great job too, Pheebs! This honestly wouldn't surprise me either. I'll also bet, that he escapes death as Cole did in Power Outage, this time them knowing who he is. Would be so The CW and show to drag it out a little. You have your sister going through all her trauma (as you suggested Pheebs) and wondering if he'll be back, and her sisters supporting her and they'll face him together if he resurfaces. Cue MeToo speeches and feeling empowered to take down the bad guy when he does reappear and tries to manipulate the sister again.
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Post by Granny Charmed on Oct 3, 2018 5:34:16 GMT -5
Great job dears, I wouldn't be surprised at all you two are right.
It would be so hilarious, if members who decide not to watch it, end up making predictions on the series plotlines, and they turn out true. Proving you don't need to tune in to figure out what they'll do.
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Post by pheebs on Oct 3, 2018 8:49:35 GMT -5
Thanks, guys, If I had a like button naturally I'd like all three of your replies. Granny, your so right. It will be so hilarious if we guessed the plots without even watching the show. And Sasha, I can totally see that happening too. Don't I wish Classic Charmed had Phoebe realizing Cole is no good for her sooner. If Cole lived, she tells her sisters the truth. But for me, I'd want her to throw that vanquishing potion without hesitation and see him gone forever.
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Post by peytonhalliwell on Oct 10, 2018 18:57:28 GMT -5
Changed my vote. After hearing more about it and what's they're doing I'm think I'm just going to pass.
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Post by zoeysmom on Apr 5, 2021 10:30:16 GMT -5
I keep meaning to, but then I forget when it's on.
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Post by Daisy J on Apr 5, 2021 10:46:15 GMT -5
I keep meaning to, but then I forget when it's on. I'm a bit behind myself. I forget when its on or goes on a break. What is frustratingly annoying with American shows. Hard to know what week is a new episode on or not. I guess the pandemic is to blame, if so I guess that makes sense. Mustn't have enough episodes in the can yet. But I saw this first as I've never seen the original series. I only just discovered the other day that this was a reboot of that as both have the same name. And watched the first episode yesterday of the original for the first time.
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