Post by Aaeiyn on Nov 15, 2024 1:07:38 GMT -5
This has been on my mind, for awhile. I'm just not sure how to put this into words, to bring about discussion concerning the topic. Anyway, in my Magical Witches vs Practicing Witches thread, I had created a brief list of the PO3 being acknowledged as the ONLY ones to be able to do certain things, such as the following:
S1E1 "Something Wicca This Way Comes"
Getting their powers, despite Phoebe being the only one chanting the spell. It's clear by the way the spell is written, it's Charmed Ones specific...
S1E2 "I've Got You Under My Skin"
Javna's Vanquish
S1E3 "Thank You for Not Morphing"
Shapershifters' Vanquish
S1E17 "That 70s Episode"
- Going back in time, to when Patty made the deal with Nikolas (wasn't specified then but because it took the PO3 to send them back, I'll count this as being a PO3 spell to "counter")
- The Charmed Ones being sent back to their own time
S2E1 "Witch Trial"
Grams said it was going to take the "PO3" (as a "PO1") to get their BOS back, from Abraxas.
S2E10 "Heartbreak City"
Cupid says to Phoebe, it'll take the Charmed Ones to whip up a spell, to "send him back" (wherever Cupids' places of residence will be) without his ring.
S2E22 "Be Careful What You Witch For"
Leo says Dragon Warlock requires the PO3 to vanquish.
S3E3 "Once Upon a Time"
To see enchanted creatures, permanently
S3E8 "Sleuthing with the Enemy"
Prue specified that they (her & Piper) needed Phoebe, in order to chant the spell, onto the Belthazor Vanquishing Potion.
S3E9 "Coyote Piper"
The Alchemist & Terra Vanquishing Spells
S3E17 "Prewitched"
Shadow needed the PO3's strong magic, to "vanquish him 9 times" to become an invincible Warlock
S4E1 "Charmed Again, Pt 1"
Shax's Vanquish
S4E5 "Size Matters"
Phoebe expresses to "take out Gamil 'Charmed Ones style'".
S4E6 "A Knight to Remember"
Shocker Demon's Vanquish
S4E11 "Trial by Magic"
Summoning Angela's Spirit
S4E12 "Lost & Bound"
Ludlow's Vanquish
S5E1 "A Witch's Tail, Pt 1"
Locating the Sea Hag (which turned Phoebe into a Mermaid)
S5E2 "A Witch's Tail, Pt 2"
Necron's Vanquish
S5E20 "Sense & Sense Ability"
The Charmed Ones can activate Paige's TK-Orbing ability, when both Phoebe & Piper touch Paige & command, for her.
S6E1 "Valhalley of the Dolls, Pt 1"
Vanquishing the Trogg Demon
S6E11 "Witchstock"
Slime Demon's Vanquish
S6E13 "Used Karma"
Swarm Demons' King Vanquishing Spell
S6E14 "The Legend of Sleepy Halliwell"
Reversing being beheaded (looks like they vanquished the Headless Horseman)
S6E17 "Hyde School Reunion"
Piper said it takes the "PO3" to vanquish the Scabber Demons.
S6E18 "Spin City"
Blessing the Spider Demon's Vanquishing Potion
S6E22 "It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World, Pt 1"
Opening the portal to their mirrored but evil world.
S7E2 "The Bare Witch Project"
- Summoning Lord Dyson into Magic School
- Sending Lady Godiva & Lord Dyson back to their time
- Re-summoning back both Lady Godiva & Lord Dyson, from their time
S7E12 "Extreme Makeover: World Edition"
Putting the world to sleep with the Avatar's powers.
S7E14 "Carpe Demon"
- Sorcerer's Vanquish
- According to Drake & the BOS, the "PO3" are the only ones (witches, that is) to vanquish him
S7E17 "Scry Hard"
Summoning the Nexus
S8E5 "Rewitched"
Antosis' Vanquish
S8E10 "Vaya Con Leos"
Summoning an Angel of Destiny
S8E13 "Repo Manor"
- Vanquishing BOTH Zakal (a wizard) & the Slave King "using the PO3" in order for BOTH of their respective potions to "work", according to the dialogue...
- Paige able to "tap into the PO3" to utilize her orbing power, more effectively...
S8E18 "The Torn Identity"
Locating the Nox Demon
These are the brief listings I came up with that are DISTINCTLY what the Charmed Ones MUST handle. Otherwise, other witches can handle the other ones with their own potions/spells/magic/powers. To my own surprise, it appears that S6 does the better job in acknowledging the Charmed Ones are special and gave them PO3 specific things to deal with LOL
And, the S8E5 "Rewitched" episode really got me thinking how the show failed to acknowledge their PO3 legacy. In S8E5 "Rewitched", Billie is a magical witch (versus being a practicing one, that we're used to seeing, in the show) meant to help aide the Charmed Ones in battling demons/protecting the innocent. Unfortunately, for Billie, she's unable to handle/deal with "PO3" type of threats. She said very clearly she can take care of the Imp Master threat, only eliminating half of the problem. Which got me thinking about other threats the Charmed Ones have faced/"dealt with" and how wasteful a lot of those threats were in promoting this "PO3" idea. I can imagine Billie taking care of most (not all) of the other threats the Charmed Ones had dealt with in the past. Threats such as the following (in S1-S2):
S1E4 "Dead Man Dating" - Yama & Tony Wong
S1E5 "Dream Sorcerer" - Dream Sorcerer/Burman
S1E6 "The Wedding from Hell" - Hecate...maybe, I mean the Charmed Ones didn't really vanquish her, either, they delivered a knife, which ANYONE can do, but I digress.
S1E7 "The Fourth Sister" - Kali
S1E8 "The Truth is Out There...and it Hurts" - Gavin
S1E9 "The Witch is Back" - Matthew Tate
S1E10 "Wicca Envy" - Rex & Hannah
S1E11 "Feats of Clay" - Guardian of the Urn...although, ANYONE could've helped Clay...
S1E12 "The Wendigo" - The Wendigo
S1E13 "From Fear to Eternity" - Barbas
S1E14 "Secrets & Guys" - Mickey & David
S1E16 "Which Prue is it, Anyway?" - Gabriel
S1E17 "That 70s Episode" - Nikolas especially since he wouldn't be immune to Billie's powers
S1E18 "When Bad Warlocks Go Good" - The Rowe Coven
S1E19 "Out of Sight" - The Grimlocks...they only require a potion
S1E20 "The Power of Two" - Jackson Ward
S1E21 "Love Hurts" - Alec
S1E22 "Deja Vu, all Over, Again" - Tempus & Rodriguez
S2E2 "Morality Bites" - Allow Phoebe to burn...I mean, ANYONE can do that LOL
S2E3 "The Painted World" - Trap Malcolm & Jane in the painting and let it burn LOL
S2E4 "The Devil's Music" - Masselin...another just a potion vanquish
S2E5 "She's a Man, Baby, a Man!" - Succubus, maybe Billie would need Christy to help her out or someone with psychic abilities. I mean, it didn't matter who was "the man"
S2E6 "That Old Black Magic" - Tuatha...I mean, only "the Chosen One" could vanquish her, so it's not like the Charmed Ones were really needed, here...
S2E7 They're Everywhere" - Collectors
S2E8 "P3 H20" - Water Demon
S2E9 "Ms. Hellfire" - Barbas, Bane & Hellfire
S2E10 "Heartbreak City" - Drazi...another potion vanquish
S2E11 "Reckless Abandon" - Elias...another potion vanquish or just stand there as their innocent kills themselves, like the Charmed Ones did, I mean really?
S2E12 "Awakened" - Just let Leo do his thing?
S2E13 "Animal Pragmatism" - Snake & Rabbit
S2E14 "Pardon My Past" - Anton
S2E15 "Give Me a Sign" - Litvack...though, the Charmed Ones didn't really vanquish him, Bane (a non-witch did, but I digress)
S2E16 "Murphy's Luck" - the Darklighter
S2E17 "How to Make a Quilt Out of Americans" - Cryto, though Billie needs two other companions, as it takes three to send Cryto back, not necessarily the PO3, though
S2E18 "Chick Flick" - Demon of Illusion, Billie can easily mimic what Prue did with her TK
S2E19 "Ex Lbiris" - Libris, it's not a PO3 spell, ANY witch can say it/cast it
S2E20 "Astral Monkey" - Dr. Williamson, the main goal was to just have him drink a potion which ANYONE can make
And, there's MANY more episodes like this, even in S3-S8, where the PO3 isn't really required to be present for any of this. It really scratches my head as to WHY the show kept hounding them to be PRESENT at a lot of these fights because A LOT of them didn't really require the PO3...and, I showed how much Billie can equally accomplish, as much as the Charmed Ones accomplish, all on her own. Unless, we actually hit PO3 content, which I do have listed.
Anyway, just wanted to share my thoughts and feel free to discuss further, if you wish. I may add S3-S8 later on, just to show how lackluster the "PO3" concept really is, and the need for ALL three of them to be there/present is kinda weird and bizarre, when the threats don't call for it...but I digress.
when the PO3 is acknowledged to NEEDING, in order for certain things to be accomplished based off of how certain spells are written (unless the spell is SPECIFIED as a "PO3" spell), if a demon is specified as a "PO3" demon, if a character says it's going to take "the Charmed Ones" to do something, etc. I'll show my examples, to show what I mean. HOWEVER, I will NOT include the ones behind the "PO3 will set us free" because that just seems like a cheap spell, for those three to use, in case of emergency. Same with the Source Vanquishing spell because ONLY Paige & Phoebe chanted it with Ava, to combine "the PO3" with Ava's magic, but I digress. Anyway, here's that quick BRIEF (from memory) examples:
S1E1 "Something Wicca This Way Comes"
Getting their powers, despite Phoebe being the only one chanting the spell. It's clear by the way the spell is written, it's Charmed Ones specific...
S1E2 "I've Got You Under My Skin"
Javna's Vanquish
S1E3 "Thank You for Not Morphing"
Shapershifters' Vanquish
S1E17 "That 70s Episode"
- Going back in time, to when Patty made the deal with Nikolas (wasn't specified then but because it took the PO3 to send them back, I'll count this as being a PO3 spell to "counter")
- The Charmed Ones being sent back to their own time
S2E1 "Witch Trial"
Grams said it was going to take the "PO3" (as a "PO1") to get their BOS back, from Abraxas.
S2E10 "Heartbreak City"
Cupid says to Phoebe, it'll take the Charmed Ones to whip up a spell, to "send him back" (wherever Cupids' places of residence will be) without his ring.
S2E22 "Be Careful What You Witch For"
Leo says Dragon Warlock requires the PO3 to vanquish.
S3E3 "Once Upon a Time"
To see enchanted creatures, permanently
S3E8 "Sleuthing with the Enemy"
Prue specified that they (her & Piper) needed Phoebe, in order to chant the spell, onto the Belthazor Vanquishing Potion.
S3E9 "Coyote Piper"
The Alchemist & Terra Vanquishing Spells
S3E17 "Prewitched"
Shadow needed the PO3's strong magic, to "vanquish him 9 times" to become an invincible Warlock
S4E1 "Charmed Again, Pt 1"
Shax's Vanquish
S4E5 "Size Matters"
Phoebe expresses to "take out Gamil 'Charmed Ones style'".
S4E6 "A Knight to Remember"
Shocker Demon's Vanquish
S4E11 "Trial by Magic"
Summoning Angela's Spirit
S4E12 "Lost & Bound"
Ludlow's Vanquish
S5E1 "A Witch's Tail, Pt 1"
Locating the Sea Hag (which turned Phoebe into a Mermaid)
S5E2 "A Witch's Tail, Pt 2"
Necron's Vanquish
S5E20 "Sense & Sense Ability"
The Charmed Ones can activate Paige's TK-Orbing ability, when both Phoebe & Piper touch Paige & command, for her.
S6E1 "Valhalley of the Dolls, Pt 1"
Vanquishing the Trogg Demon
S6E11 "Witchstock"
Slime Demon's Vanquish
S6E13 "Used Karma"
Swarm Demons' King Vanquishing Spell
S6E14 "The Legend of Sleepy Halliwell"
Reversing being beheaded (looks like they vanquished the Headless Horseman)
S6E17 "Hyde School Reunion"
Piper said it takes the "PO3" to vanquish the Scabber Demons.
S6E18 "Spin City"
Blessing the Spider Demon's Vanquishing Potion
S6E22 "It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World, Pt 1"
Opening the portal to their mirrored but evil world.
S7E2 "The Bare Witch Project"
- Summoning Lord Dyson into Magic School
- Sending Lady Godiva & Lord Dyson back to their time
- Re-summoning back both Lady Godiva & Lord Dyson, from their time
S7E12 "Extreme Makeover: World Edition"
Putting the world to sleep with the Avatar's powers.
S7E14 "Carpe Demon"
- Sorcerer's Vanquish
- According to Drake & the BOS, the "PO3" are the only ones (witches, that is) to vanquish him
S7E17 "Scry Hard"
Summoning the Nexus
S8E5 "Rewitched"
Antosis' Vanquish
S8E10 "Vaya Con Leos"
Summoning an Angel of Destiny
S8E13 "Repo Manor"
- Vanquishing BOTH Zakal (a wizard) & the Slave King "using the PO3" in order for BOTH of their respective potions to "work", according to the dialogue...
- Paige able to "tap into the PO3" to utilize her orbing power, more effectively...
S8E18 "The Torn Identity"
Locating the Nox Demon
These are the brief listings I came up with that are DISTINCTLY what the Charmed Ones MUST handle. Otherwise, other witches can handle the other ones with their own potions/spells/magic/powers. To my own surprise, it appears that S6 does the better job in acknowledging the Charmed Ones are special and gave them PO3 specific things to deal with LOL
And, the S8E5 "Rewitched" episode really got me thinking how the show failed to acknowledge their PO3 legacy. In S8E5 "Rewitched", Billie is a magical witch (versus being a practicing one, that we're used to seeing, in the show) meant to help aide the Charmed Ones in battling demons/protecting the innocent. Unfortunately, for Billie, she's unable to handle/deal with "PO3" type of threats. She said very clearly she can take care of the Imp Master threat, only eliminating half of the problem. Which got me thinking about other threats the Charmed Ones have faced/"dealt with" and how wasteful a lot of those threats were in promoting this "PO3" idea. I can imagine Billie taking care of most (not all) of the other threats the Charmed Ones had dealt with in the past. Threats such as the following (in S1-S2):
S1E4 "Dead Man Dating" - Yama & Tony Wong
S1E5 "Dream Sorcerer" - Dream Sorcerer/Burman
S1E6 "The Wedding from Hell" - Hecate...maybe, I mean the Charmed Ones didn't really vanquish her, either, they delivered a knife, which ANYONE can do, but I digress.
S1E7 "The Fourth Sister" - Kali
S1E8 "The Truth is Out There...and it Hurts" - Gavin
S1E9 "The Witch is Back" - Matthew Tate
S1E10 "Wicca Envy" - Rex & Hannah
S1E11 "Feats of Clay" - Guardian of the Urn...although, ANYONE could've helped Clay...
S1E12 "The Wendigo" - The Wendigo
S1E13 "From Fear to Eternity" - Barbas
S1E14 "Secrets & Guys" - Mickey & David
S1E16 "Which Prue is it, Anyway?" - Gabriel
S1E17 "That 70s Episode" - Nikolas especially since he wouldn't be immune to Billie's powers
S1E18 "When Bad Warlocks Go Good" - The Rowe Coven
S1E19 "Out of Sight" - The Grimlocks...they only require a potion
S1E20 "The Power of Two" - Jackson Ward
S1E21 "Love Hurts" - Alec
S1E22 "Deja Vu, all Over, Again" - Tempus & Rodriguez
S2E2 "Morality Bites" - Allow Phoebe to burn...I mean, ANYONE can do that LOL
S2E3 "The Painted World" - Trap Malcolm & Jane in the painting and let it burn LOL
S2E4 "The Devil's Music" - Masselin...another just a potion vanquish
S2E5 "She's a Man, Baby, a Man!" - Succubus, maybe Billie would need Christy to help her out or someone with psychic abilities. I mean, it didn't matter who was "the man"
S2E6 "That Old Black Magic" - Tuatha...I mean, only "the Chosen One" could vanquish her, so it's not like the Charmed Ones were really needed, here...
S2E7 They're Everywhere" - Collectors
S2E8 "P3 H20" - Water Demon
S2E9 "Ms. Hellfire" - Barbas, Bane & Hellfire
S2E10 "Heartbreak City" - Drazi...another potion vanquish
S2E11 "Reckless Abandon" - Elias...another potion vanquish or just stand there as their innocent kills themselves, like the Charmed Ones did, I mean really?
S2E12 "Awakened" - Just let Leo do his thing?
S2E13 "Animal Pragmatism" - Snake & Rabbit
S2E14 "Pardon My Past" - Anton
S2E15 "Give Me a Sign" - Litvack...though, the Charmed Ones didn't really vanquish him, Bane (a non-witch did, but I digress)
S2E16 "Murphy's Luck" - the Darklighter
S2E17 "How to Make a Quilt Out of Americans" - Cryto, though Billie needs two other companions, as it takes three to send Cryto back, not necessarily the PO3, though
S2E18 "Chick Flick" - Demon of Illusion, Billie can easily mimic what Prue did with her TK
S2E19 "Ex Lbiris" - Libris, it's not a PO3 spell, ANY witch can say it/cast it
S2E20 "Astral Monkey" - Dr. Williamson, the main goal was to just have him drink a potion which ANYONE can make
And, there's MANY more episodes like this, even in S3-S8, where the PO3 isn't really required to be present for any of this. It really scratches my head as to WHY the show kept hounding them to be PRESENT at a lot of these fights because A LOT of them didn't really require the PO3...and, I showed how much Billie can equally accomplish, as much as the Charmed Ones accomplish, all on her own. Unless, we actually hit PO3 content, which I do have listed.
Anyway, just wanted to share my thoughts and feel free to discuss further, if you wish. I may add S3-S8 later on, just to show how lackluster the "PO3" concept really is, and the need for ALL three of them to be there/present is kinda weird and bizarre, when the threats don't call for it...but I digress.