The Charmed Spin-Off Thread--Part 2

[Lisa M]

We need someone who can do computer graphics and make a large eps file out of this:

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We need this right away, like no later than Friday morning. It needs to be a very large file that can be blown up to 8' x 16' for the billboard. Whoever gets it to me first will receive a copy of the Charmed series finale script autographed by Wes Ramsey.

Please send me the file or the url I can download the file from to [e-mail]. Thank you.

[rebeccamatthews]

oy, to give you people the heads up: someone made a thread over at the CW boards.

[Lisa M]

The Charmed Sons billboard started in Los Angeles yesterday. For anyone in the Los Angeles area that want to check it out, here are the locations, times and dates for the billboard:

Spelling Television, Inc.
2401 Colorado Avenue, Ste. 110
Santa Monica, CA 90404

CBS Paramount Television
4024 Radford Avenue
Studio City, California 91604

Here’s the definite schedule:
Tuesday, September 5 9:30am-1:30pm—Spelling Television
Tuesday, September 5 1:30pm-5:30pm—CBS Paramount Television

Wednesday, September 6 9:30am-1:30pm—Spelling Television
Wednesday, September 6 1:30pm-5:30pm—CBS Paramount Television

Thursday, September 7 9:30am-1:30pm— CBS Paramount Television
Thursday, September 7 1:30pm-5:30pm— Spelling Television

Friday, September 8 9:30am-1:30pm— CBS Paramount Television
Friday, September 8 1:30pm-5:30pm— Spelling Television

Saturday, September 9 9:30am-1:30pm—Spelling Television
Saturday, September 9 1:30pm-5:30pm—CBS Paramount Television

[Lisa M]

I want to thank Mila from the DVD Group for sending me the first picture, and Elizabeth who sent the rest of the pictures.

Here is the picture of the Charmed Sons billboard:

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Here are the pictures Elizabeth took over at CBS Paramount (That woman kissing the billboard is a random passerby):



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Here are some of the view of CBS Paramount Television Studio:




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Remember, if you are in the Los Angeles area you can go see the billboard at the following locations during the following dates and times:

Spelling Television, Inc.
2401 Colorado Avenue, Ste. 110
Santa Monica, CA 90404

CBS Paramount Television
4024 Radford Avenue
Studio City, California 91604

Here’s the definite schedule:
Tuesday, September 5 9:30am-1:30pm—Spelling Television
Tuesday, September 5 1:30pm-5:30pm—CBS Paramount Television

Wednesday, September 6 9:30am-1:30pm—Spelling Television
Wednesday, September 6 1:30pm-5:30pm—CBS Paramount Television

Thursday, September 7 9:30am-1:30pm— CBS Paramount Television
Thursday, September 7 1:30pm-5:30pm— Spelling Television

Friday, September 8 9:30am-1:30pm— CBS Paramount Television
Friday, September 8 1:30pm-5:30pm— Spelling Television

Saturday, September 9 9:30am-1:30pm—Spelling Television
Saturday, September 9 1:30pm-5:30pm—CBS Paramount Television

Monday, September 11 9:30am-5:30pm—Spelling Television

Tuesday, September 12 9:30am-5:30pm—CBS Paramount Television

[charmedfan4evr]

O wow, it looks great! Thanks so much for posting the pics, I'm getting all excited!

[ArchAngel]

Charmed SOns Spin off?

Let me guess.....Wyatt must constantly contend with his darker half that thirsts for power that will lead to the destruction of the entire magical Community by the rebellious Humans as Chris desperately tries to figure out "what made Wyatt evil" not realizing that all Halliwells are like that when they get a power boost...lol, and eventually goes back in time and dies <yawn>


Or even more boring, both boys have trouble with balancing their magic with relationships with women and crave "normal lives"(Reverse version of the same relationship drama crap that drove the ratings down for charmed in the first place) <double Yawn>

Do people forget that between the Charmed Ones vanquishes," Psycho Leo's" Rampage, and the Avatar's Rampage to take over the world, that all that is left are those very low level demons that dress either in black uniforms or in Goth

Didn't you hear, that demon that made the deal with the girls in the last episode was the last leader type left and there would be no demon battles for at least a generation according to the truce (of course demons are never worthy of there word, but those that double cross the Charmed Ones never live long,yes?)

Spin Off? They Closed off that Option with the last few minutes of the Last Eppie cause stating that the skirmishes in the future were few and far between allowing for them and their children and their children's children to live normal lives (or the lives they wanted anyway)

Honestly think there is more of a chance for the Spice Girls to get back together (including Ginger Spice) and them doing a successfully world tour before them coming to my House to perform with Ed McMahon cause I just won 10 million dollars

[Lisa M]

Um, no...what you described would be Charmed.

How's this for a plot?
There's some baddie that is stealing witches powers and killing them. Chris and Wyatt, who have embraced their destiny, taking over for the demon fighting for their mom and aunts, try to stop the baddie. The baddie manages to sneak up on Wyatt and steal some of his powers (leaving him still powerful, but not quite as powerful so he isn't unbeatable), but Chris manages to come in and stop him before he kills him. The boys now have to figure out how to stop this baddie without all of Wyatt's massive powers. It becomes even more difficult when the baddie uses the massive amounts of power he stole from Wyatt to get Elder powers, thereby killing all of them off and leaving the world without the influence of the Elders anymore. Wyatt and Chris are forced to use their brains to stop the baddie (there's a concept seldem employed in Charmed). Using their limited powers, their brains, and with guidance from their mother, a former Charmed One, and their father, a former whitelighter/Elder, they are able to defeat the big bad. However, they must now face that they no longer have Wyatt's seemingly limitless amount of powers at their disposal and their destiny takes on new challenges as they must learn to fight with limited powers and being intelligent about it. Mom and Dad are on hand to offer them guidance.

The end of season 8 showed Chris and Wyatt taking over. It did not show that there was any less skirmishes in the future--when Chris and Wyatt came back, they said that they had been battling demons when Wyatt lost his powers (and then started getting their asses kicked).
Of course, anything written as being in the future can also be changed, as we have seen Charmed do time and time again. That is presuming, of course, that the future the sisters started writing about in the present was an actual future and not one they just dreamed about.
Personally, I prefer to think all of season 8 was just a bad dream of Piper's.

[HollysFan]

I love that plot. Especially when it still has Piper and Leo involved.

[vandergraafk]

Let me toss out another idea, one that came to me this morning while watching Hyde School Reunion. How about a spin-off that features Holly trying to raise her three children - Wyatt, Chris and Prudence Melinda - while maintaining the facade of a normal life. As adolescents, these kids would be prone to mischief. After all, that's what teenagers do: they rebel. Look at what a teenage rebel without a cause - Phoebe - did when given her adult powers. As a teacher of middle school students, I can only begin to imagine the havoc the kids would wreak.

[spiritsas]

I also had an idea I posted in a couple of threads. I'll just repost it here, but I think we need a new twist or Arch Angel is right; it will be just more of the same. Please tell me what you think.

So, I'm sitting here, watching the DVDs I recently bought of the first 5 seasons, picking through episodes in early seasons and I take a break to watch this made for TV movie, called Fallen. Not the one made a few years back with Denzel Washington, which was disturbingly tragic, but one on the ABC Family Channel. Briefly, it's a bout a kid, an orphan, who in reaching his 18th birthday, discovers one of his parents was an Fallen angel. This makes him a Nephilim. Which is also what's going on in the BBC show "Hex", where a Fallen angel has a son with a witch (any of this sounding familiar yet) who is a special nephilim, much like the 18 year old. Oh, did I mention the 18 year old can freeze time, is a special Nephilim, known as the redeemer, because he can redeem Fallen angels and they can go back to the Creator, or at least heaven. He also has wings and can fly. Anyway, in Hex, the Fallen angel, who is the bad guy of the story, is suddenly not looking all bad and his son is the one who can free other fallen angels. I think they've all read from the same play book here.

That's when I had this epiphany, though a small one, about the Charmed Sons. This is the angle the show needs. Wyatt, as is Chris, is the son of an Angel and a human (OK, a Witch). He is Nephilim, by definition, which were banned from happening. Which is why some Killer Gestapo angels hunt down the Nephilim, soon after their 18th BD, and kill them.

This is the missing story for the Charmed Sons. Yes, it will copy both these shows, but one is just a movie (which will have some six hour mini event in 2007) and the other is BBC. This is the twist that can be added to make the Charmed Sons it's own show and not just a continuation of TCO. Wyatt is the Redeemer and he and Chris, another Nephilim, realize they need to help others like themselves and other Fallen Angels (like Sam was) to redeem themselves. This is why many in the Underworld (or at least can add to the explanation) think of Wyatt as a abomination, so they want him evil or destroyed. It's why the Elders forbid relations between White lighters and witches, cause they breed Nephilim. This would add so much to the story of Wyatt and Chris and give them a mission independent of saving innocents, which was their mother's hobby. What do you think?

[ShantaD]

I think a spinoff really needs to stick to the Charmed universe and not go off into another totally different scifi world. People like the mythology Charmed established and the characters of Chris and Wyatt as they've been introduced. A spinoff needs to continue that.

How about a spin-off that features Holly trying to raise her three children - Wyatt, Chris and Prudence Melinda - while maintaining the facade of a normal life. As adolescents, these kids would be prone to mischief. After all, that's what teenagers do: they rebel. Look at what a teenage rebel without a cause - Phoebe - did when given her adult powers. As a teacher of middle school students, I can only begin to imagine the havoc the kids would wreak.

No thank you. No teenage witches. I want Chris and Wyatt as adults. We've already seen them as grown men, I'm not interested in regressing them to teenage boys to see some sort of "Malcolm in the Middle" hijinks with powers.

[aerio]

me either, i would rather see them as adults fighting then them as teens going through what the charmed ones went through during season 1.

[charmedfan4evr]

Any more billboard pictures?

[spiritsas]

Does anyone have any comments on what I posted about a possible plot for the spin off? I really do think it could regain the orginal Charmed darker side and show that not all the Elders are in agreement. Factions, as it were, amongst the Elders.

Also, the plot idea not only is a reasonable extension of the story, but it gives a whole new basic storyline to explore. Not just more demons and innocents. The show would need a new twist or concept or the networks will all look at it as just rehashing the same old ideas. Why were the Star Trek spinoffs successful. Except for Enterprise, they all lasted eight years, and there have been what, like eight movies. This is because they gave each new series it's own identity and it's own mission. Although they could intertwine the stories or some aspect (like the Borg) into nearly all of them, each had its own "feel" and its own cast, who could stand alone.

This is what the spinoff needs. Whether it's my idea (stolen from the shows I mentioned) about using the Nephlim concept, or something else, it needs to either get away from or at the very least add a significant and new main or basic concept to the show. It seems very clear to me that the networks will not rehash Charmed with the Charmed Sons any time soon, unless there is some fresh ideas to write about. I truly think this is vital to the spinoff ever becoming a reality. Any thoughts about this?

On a side note, I hope, if the show Supernatural survives for several more years, that at some point they could have a story where one of the Charmed sisters, probably Piper, crosses paths with the demon hunting brothers. It could make for a good storyline and keep the darker feel of the show intact, if done right. What do you think?

[rebeccamatthews]

spiritkas said:

On a side note, I hope, if the show Supernatural survives for several more years, that at some point they could have a story where one of the Charmed sisters, probably Piper, crosses paths with the demon hunting brothers. It could make for a good storyline and keep the darker feel of the show intact, if done right. What do you think?

Nah, I highly doubt that EK would have it so that the Winchester brothers meet the Halliwell sisters. SN has little to do with the magical powers.

[charmedfan4evr]

Any news? I go to this specific thread everyday to see if there are any updates and there have not been for a while. I really want this spin-off to happen! I go on the thecharmedsons.com occasionally and I heard about all the campaings that are going on. Is all the campaigning being successful? Are the chances reaching up to our goal getting better and better? Update over here! Let us know what's happening!

[spiritsas]

Winchester,

I understand your reasoning, but in Supernatural the brothers are after a demon and there seems to be whole group of them who inhabit people whenever they want to do so. It's only a short step to magic from there and there are other hunters. It could be a edgier story and not involve all the sisters, as that would never happen now, but perhaps just one. Or, it could introduce, though this is a longer shot, the Charmed Sons, who are also brothers dealing with demons. Just a thought, and I know it won't happen. Not that delusional, or not yet anyway.

[Lisa M]

spiritkas said:

Winchester,

I understand your reasoning, but in Supernatural the brothers are after a demon and there seems to be whole group of them who inhabit people whenever they want to do so. It's only a short step to magic from there and there are other hunters. It could be a edgier story and not involve all the sisters, as that would never happen now, but perhaps just one. Or, it could introduce, though this is a longer shot, the Charmed Sons, who are also brothers dealing with demons. Just a thought, and I know it won't happen. Not that delusional, or not yet anyway.

I think Supernatural and Charmed (or any spin-off, for that matter) are too different to do any crossovers. The Winchester brothers would not fit in Charmed anymore than the Halliwells would fit into Supernatural. They are two extremely different shows. Even if The Charmed Sons ever gets picked up, other than both shows having brothers fighting demons, they are extremely different. The kinds of demons the Winchesters fight are very different from any kind of demon they ever fought on Charmed, so even the demon fighting part is different. So the similarities pretty much end with both shows having two brothers as the leads.

[spiritsas]

I see your points, but we may just have to agree to disagree. What I mean by this is that I see the details of what you're saying and that if you push hard on the concept, it has issues on how these two shows would allow a crossover. What I'm saying is that something a bit different would have to happen and that the similarities are sufficient enough for the general viewing public to ignore the differences. Charmed was more than about witches fighting demons. It was about family, friends, and how you should treat them. It was about empowering women, but also about instilling confidence in oneself, independent of gender, to do what you dream about doing. It was about a lot of things which Supernatural is only partly about, agreed, but the similarities do not end with just two brothers in each show.

First of all, there is no clearly defined concept of what The Charmed Sons would be about, yet, other than they are powerful witches, children of Piper and Leo, who will still be fighting demons, some of the time, at least, in the future. However, they do travel back in time to the present, often, it would seem.

Yes the magic is somewhat different, but what we are seeing on Supernatural is the true dark side of evil, which really does exist to create loss for those around them. However, they do seem to have a plan, or at least the main demon they're chasing does. I think it's not such as great a leap as we would like it to be to have HMC recreate her role. We've seen mortals, like Brody, chasing demons (though he knew not what he was chasing), in Charmed and other mortals who have helped in the fight against them, drawn in by some destiny.

I understand the shows are different and it would have to be an episode which bent a little on both sides, but I do believe it could be done. However, like I said, I don't expect it to happen any time soon, if ever.

[vandergraafk]

Spiritkas, suppose we accept as fact your point about the nephilium. First, we would have to resurrect Chris who, as I strongly believe, died at the conclusion of Season 6. In my short story, I am endeavoring to save his life. Now, Chris will returned to an altered future where now there are Elders and evil Wyatt does not exist. Perhaps Chris will be tempted to explore his dark side (something Paige obviously did not try to do). He hooks up with a Phoenix (Bianca) and pursues demons for the sake of killing demons, let's say. The Elders are forced to take a stand, especially as Bianca and Chris plan to have children. This leads to the division you seek among the Elders. Certainly, this would be an improvement over Gideon's lone ranger approach. It would also also the whole question of the Elders to be explored more fully.

To get to this point, it might help to have a TV movie where P4 get together to stop a resurrected Source. Chris would be a young boy dabbling on the dark side. This leads to the strained relationship between Leo and Chris (which we saw in Spiderboy Chris). Foreshadowing the nephilium in Chris could be a way to ease into a spin-off.