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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 23, 2010 16:31:12 GMT -5
Because thats how fans work. Just like in Buffy, the fans coined Buffy and friends The Scooby Gang before it was ever brought up in the show (i dont remember if it ever was). I dont think its a bad thing that fans coined Paiges power as telekinetic orbing since it perfectly describes her power. Sure she moves things with her mind but it involves orbs. If it looks different it is going to have a different name or else you could end up with telekinetic moleculaer combustion. And molecular combustion is the worst one of all. Piper's power does NOT combust molecules. That says that her power is burning the molecules and it doesn't. Using her power that way make the molecules speed up so they separate, making the thing explode, the opposite of her slowing molecules down so the thing freezes. Using her power to manipulate molecules, yeah, I suppose I can accept that, but molecular combustion? No way! Maybe fans like to make fancy names, but I prefer simply saying that the witch uses her power and then say what happens - Prue uses her power and the item moves. Piper uses her power and the item explodes. Phoebe uses her power and she sees the future. It's how true scripts read, how the spoilers always read, so if it's good enough for the professionals, why can't it be good enough for the fans? And whatever Paige does, it has absolutely nothing to do with burning molecules - it's moving things with her mind. The orbs just lets her move them to her rather than away from her. Each time Prue used her power to move stuff towards herself it was an error by the writers, misusing her powers, the same way Paige using her power to move something away from her--not the same as ricocheting--was a misuse of her power. The show just used the orbs so that Paige could do that and let the use of her power be different than Prue's, also the reason Piper was also able to use her power to make molecules move faster rather than just freeze, so they'd have an offensive power to replace Prue using her power to move items away from herself. Which brings us back to that horrible word "witchlighter". Had Paige simply gotten Prue's power and not got any whitelighter ones or whitelighter-affected ones, there would've been no need for Piper to get the new use of her power and become Super Witch who--unlike Prue--didn't need her sisters to get rid of demons--the first time the show jumped the shark. DON'T I WISH! |
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Post by SEERofCHAOS on Mar 23, 2010 16:44:51 GMT -5
Wait what? So your saying that Prue can't use her power to move things towards her? That's ridiculous! It's how TK works, moving things with your mind whether it's towards you or away from you.
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 23, 2010 16:51:11 GMT -5
Because she didn't have true telekinesis. She had the power to move things away with from her - giving the item a push. The same way Paige didn't have true telekinesis. She had the power to summon items to her.
See what happens when you start thinking their powers have these fancy-sounding names? You start thinking that they have what that word implies, which they didn't.
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Post by SEERofCHAOS on Mar 23, 2010 16:59:35 GMT -5
But Es, it has always been TK, ever since episode one. She did a lot more than just move things towards and away from her, like the time she made that mobile for the baby, or the time she cleaned the house with her powers. It has always been moving things with her mind, she just perferred to use it more offensively.
Same goes with Paige's powers. She can summon things towards her and away from her, ever since her introduction she had been able to do it.
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 23, 2010 17:03:12 GMT -5
Same goes with Paige's powers. She can summon things towards her and away from her, ever since her introduction she had been able to do it. Not Paige. When things moved away from her, she summoned them to her and then ricocheted them. |
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Post by SEERofCHAOS on Mar 23, 2010 18:25:26 GMT -5
Same goes with Paige's powers. She can summon things towards her and away from her, ever since her introduction she had been able to do it. Not Paige. When things moved away from her, she summoned them to her and then ricocheted them. Ah yes, you're right. But still, her powers have grown, I don't see why she couldn't have ended up not having to ricochete things to throw them. Now that I think more about it, what kind of powers would all the Charmed Ones kids inherit, minus Wyatt and Chris. I would hope that Phoebe's three girls would inherit the original 3 powers of TCO. Paige's kids would atleast get one whitelighter power. |
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Post by ljones on Mar 23, 2010 23:26:56 GMT -5
Paige's ability looked nothing like Prue's telekinesis to me.
Ricocheted? I've never seen that happen with Paige's ability. The object in question would disappear and reappear in another location.
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 24, 2010 14:04:34 GMT -5
Paige's ability looked nothing like Prue's telekinesis to me. Ricocheted? I've never seen that happen with Paige's ability. The object in question would disappear and reappear in another location. No. She put up her hand and it moved the other direction - definitely ricocheted. It was the writers' way of getting around the fact that she couldn't move stuff away from her. It's not something I think she should've been able to do, but since everything was all about battling what they counted as the bad guys, they got sick of just Piper having the offensive power and let Paige do that, the same reason for giving Phoebe "levitation". |
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 24, 2010 14:06:36 GMT -5
Not Paige. When things moved away from her, she summoned them to her and then ricocheted them. Ah yes, you're right. But still, her powers have grown, I don't see why she couldn't have ended up not having to ricochete things to throw them. Now that I think more about it, what kind of powers would all the Charmed Ones kids inherit, minus Wyatt and Chris. I would hope that Phoebe's three girls would inherit the original 3 powers of TCO. Paige's kids would atleast get one whitelighter power. But her powers *didn't* grow. Had they, they would've made a huge fuss about it, the way they did whenever anyone either got an upgrade or a new power, and they never did. Eventually? Probably. During the run of the show? Nope. Just sloppy writing. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 24, 2010 14:10:13 GMT -5
But Es, it has always been TK, ever since episode one. She did a lot more than just move things towards and away from her, like the time she made that mobile for the baby, or the time she cleaned the house with her powers. It has always been moving things with her mind, she just perferred to use it more offensively. That was still moving things around. She never once moved something towards her. (error on my part saying it was a writer's error - it would've been if they had, but they never did.) If she could've, she would've. But she didn't. That's why they let Paige have the summoning power, so it would be different than Prue's, to make it fresh and to prevent as many comparisons. It's why she couldn't move the candle until she summoned it. If she had true telekinesis, she would've been able to. The same way she didn't have true telekinesis, neither did Prue, the reason I hate using the fancy names, especially when they truly don't describe the power. |
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Post by SEERofCHAOS on Mar 24, 2010 15:25:36 GMT -5
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Post by CharmedFaith on Mar 24, 2010 17:51:02 GMT -5
I still dont see how Prue didnt have "true" telekinesis. What is true telekinesis?
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Post by ghostrider on Mar 24, 2010 18:12:53 GMT -5
I agree with CB. I admit that the push/pull business isn't something that I have spent a lot of time thinking about as I viewed Prue's powers to be mostly of the mind. The leaking pen incident is one of them. Just how should that be classified? And what about the time she had her hands shackled as the bad guys thought she was like Piper and without the use of them she was helpless. I think that episode brought to light that she used her eyes.....but, to me it was more of a mind control ability.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Mar 24, 2010 18:25:57 GMT -5
Not to mention that she lifted bones from a grave, unlocked a door from the outside, stopped an arrow and redirected it. When you have TK you mostly move things towards and away from you anyway. Ive seen it depicted like that in basically every format ive seen the power used.
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Post by StoryGirl83 on Mar 24, 2010 18:57:44 GMT -5
And what about the time she had her hands shackled as the bad guys thought she was like Piper and without the use of them she was helpless. I think that episode brought to light that she used her eyes.....but, to me it was more of a mind control ability. Actually Gabriel (the warlock badguy of that ep) thought she used her hands like Brianna one of their ancestors who shared Prue's power. The episode was "Which Prue is it Anyway?" or something like that. |
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Post by SEERofCHAOS on Mar 24, 2010 19:08:30 GMT -5
Kinda missed this post but...
When Piper was able to unfreeze certain parts of the demon's body, and when Phoebe could glide horizontal a little they never made a fuss about it. Paige's powers did progress over the series, that doesn't mean they have to spend an episode about it.
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Post by ghostrider on Mar 27, 2010 15:31:18 GMT -5
Posted by StoryGirl83 on 3/24/10 at 6:57pm
Thank you SG83.....In all honesty, I forgot about Brianna....love the name!!!
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Post by pixiesunbelle on Sept 7, 2010 16:23:23 GMT -5
I love the idea of witchlighters. Also, Paige had to work for her powers to come to light. Shes always had them, but not access to them since she was ignorant of them. The only one she could actively use was orbing. But she able to use it as a defense mechanism and still was not aware of the ability. For example, when the car crashed she thought she rolled out onto the pavement when she orbed. Also, when Phoebe and Cole was watching her on the rooftop, she orbed when she was attacked. This time she was aware of the ability but did not know how to use it. Later, when being taught about her powers and witchcraft, they only progressed when needed to. Even her orbing did. Soon, she could move more distances and eventually let others travel with her. Her powers were granted when needed to be granted. When she had to heal, only she could it when Leo helped her. She was told to "try it".
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Post by ljones on Sept 11, 2010 4:01:40 GMT -5
I looked at the clips. All of them came from Season 8. And all of them had Paige using good old-fashioned telekinesis. I have never seen her use this ability during Seasons 4-7. Which goes to show that the series' writers didn't know sh!t about kinetic abilities. I mean . . . orbing? Orbing was nothing more than teleportation via blue orbs to me.
And then they created this telekinetic orbing crap for Paige. Because that is what it was crap. Instead of identifying it as teleportation . . . which is what it was in the first damn place, they gave Paige's ability this ridiculous name because they believed that the Charmed Ones always have to have the abilities of freezing, precognition and telekinesis. The stupidity of writers. I guess that after four years, they decided to make Paige a telekinetic after all. I'm just disgusted with the whole thing.
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Post by marienomad on Dec 1, 2010 13:36:57 GMT -5
I was wondering... what would happen down the line when orbing becomes more common among witches because they inherited it? Does that mean that they automatically get to be whitelighters?
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