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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 31, 2010 10:26:25 GMT -5
Just saw this at another site. As it makes very clear, nothing is completely verified and I doubt if it ever will be, but it makes plenty of sense to me: Apparently the Chris Perry storyline was a result of a mix of many paragons : planning , desperate need for a long term storyline , discrepancy from different scripts , luck , chance , background conflicts (Brian Krause's contract negotiations after Season 5) indecision on Brad Kern 's behalf about where to go with the character , even buzz from the media and the fans who were displeased with the separation storyline plus the lackluster actor they chose to portray such an ambiguous and difficult character . Had Mr Fuller been as accomplished of an actor as Julian McMahon who played Cole , the possibility of a spin-off is high likely . With someone who couldn't show how the character truly felt inside , this was not possible .
The following description is an assembly of various rumours , interviews , fan speculation in forums etc . NOTHING is solidly proven .
1) Brian Krause wanted to leave the series because he "felt tired". (as much as I love the character I believe the actor simply wanted more money for his season 6 contract and was too ashamed to admit it).
2) Meanwhile , after Cole was out of the scenery and since Wyatt was finally born , the writers wanted to find a season long story arc . The viewers were kind of unhappy with the stand-alone episodes revolving around magical creatures such as leprechauns or nymphs . They had to come up with a long term story such as the Cole-Seer subplot in Season 4 . So they decided to focus on Piper and her family . Wyatt 's dark side due to immense concentration of power seemed like an obvious choice . They peppered the last episodes of Season 5 with hints about an evil adult Wyatt (the Crone 's visions in [5.20] and the warning of Grams in [5.21] "Men are not responsible with magic and evil will eventually take over" as well as "something went wrong") .
3) The initial agreement with Brian Krause was to retain him as a recurring guest star during Season 6 (like in Season 1) . They didn 't want to write him out entirely and they knew they couldn't end his storyline abruptly . His promotion to Elder status was a fairly plausible excuse . He wouldn't be around in every episode but he would protect them silently AND make a few guest appearances (like Grams or Patty) . They even preped the seperation storyline with the broken wedding symbol in Cat House .
4) Of course the girls would be inadequate without a whitelighter . So they combined the two plots with a future warning about an Evil Wyatt with Leo 's promotion . The Titan storyline was hastily concocted without much thought so that many Elders could be effectively killed and Chris would gain trust .
5) According to a recent interview of his , Drew Fuller was originally hired for the Season 5 finale to serve this plot device . At that point even he did not know who Chris was going to be . If he was not accepted by the fans they would end it there . Brian Krause was rumoured to be departing . The studio even toyed with audience 's agony over Leo during the summer : the final scene had Leo being orbed to Valhalla and being magically locked to his cage . The studio dictated for the scene to be reshot at the last minute and Leo was blown up . During the summer however Mr Krause confirmed that he renewed his contract for a full Season .
6) Meanwhile the producers never gave an unambiguous answer as to who Chris was . Since he was half witch and half whitelighter there had to be very few choices . The obvious option was an adult Wyatt but this was merely a red herring (remember Chris 's statement : if I can't save you I swear I am going to stop you) . An early explanation was Paige 's son but this was discarded quickly .
7) When the 6th Season began the storyline was not properly organized . Although it was obvious from various clues that Chris was a relative no-one could give a straight answer . Who he was was literally changed from week to week .
8) Coincidentally Holly Marie Combs was pregnant . In the early episodes they disguised the pregnancy. Brad Kern continued to toy with the audience who waited for the Piper-Leo reconnection . At least in Chris Chrossed it was established that Chris is NOT Wyatt .
9) Half-way through the Season Brad Kern was STILL indecisive over the future : Piper and Leo 's reconciliation and the inclusion of Combs' real-life pregnancy in the script were still up in the air . Audience demand was as high as ever .
10) Brad Kern finally relented : Phoebe 's revealing vision at the end of [6.14] and the reunion of Piper and Leo in Ghostly Plane at the end of [6.16] were decided at the last minute . (in order to keep the suspense though Leo didn 't return to his family right afterwards)
11) The point is that they literally made the plot up as they went . This improvisation is the main cause of all the unanswered questions about Chris 's dystopic future (did the Titans win , did Paige die or not after the Titan attack , how did exactly Wyatt become evil , why did Leo abandon his house permanently , how and when did the Charmed Ones die , why Leo didn't stay in touch with his children etc.) .
12) The different writers as well as the lack of a common pattern was responsible for the aforementioned mess . After the big revelation they gave us subtle clues without elaborating about Chris 's life (he was orphaned when he was 14 , Victor raised him , his enstranged father never reunited with him etc.) . They were so anxious to wrap up the PRESENT storylines (Gideon 's conspiracy , Piper 's pregnancy , Chris becoming less cunning and all of the sudden start calling his parents Mom and Dad , Piper giving birth , Piper and Leo getting back together) that they ditched any substantial background on Chris . Once the Big Question was answered to calm down the fans their enigmatic character was redundant .
Mr Fuller 's low popularity among the fans didn't help much either . Although Chris Chrossed was the episode with the most viewers ever, the viewership very quickly dropped off to the series' lowest . Brad Kern knew that Fuller and his character were essentially a liability and during the last episodes he decided to wrap his convoluted storyline with a dramatic death . (when the news was leaked during the scripting stages of the 6th Season finale with Evil Universe NO ONE was surprised) .
Drew Fuller has admitted in interviews that his storyline was expanded to the maximum degree feasible . He also said he was very pleased with the show (evidenced that he returned later as a guest star) . Doesn't surprise me one single bit. I always felt that like hiring Rose McGowan to play Paige, rather than hiring someone who looked like a Halliwell, they should've hired someone who could act. |
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Post by Astral Echo on Aug 31, 2010 11:03:14 GMT -5
I completely agree with you Es. Once Connie was no longer invovled we saw the quality of acting decrease. Julian was the last hint of real quality and while she may not have wanted him around permantly, she did help create the original character and I imagine she would of had some kind of influence over the decision. But once Connie and her team left, that positive influence vanished.
The only decent, credible actors invovled after this point were Debbi Morgan (the Seer), Ohed Farr (Zankou) and Billy Zane (Drake).
McGowan, Fuller, Nick Lachey, Jason Lewis and a number of other highlights how the show struggled to bring in the right kind of actors. They weren't there for the right reasons and surely the buck has to stop with Kern and his casting department.
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Post by pixiesunbelle on Aug 31, 2010 15:27:13 GMT -5
I enjoyed Chris' character. But i really abhorred the billion dates Phoebe had take priority of her life. I enjoyed Billie as a character but not as an Ultimate Power. I really enjoyed Nick Lachey and Charisma as the Seer. I thought Debbi Morgan played a wonderful evil Seer.
I do wish though there could have been a spin-off.
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Post by Reality Bites on Aug 31, 2010 21:50:08 GMT -5
Doesn't surprise me one single bit. I always felt that like hiring Rose McGowan to play Paige, rather than hiring someone who looked like a Halliwell, they should've hired someone who could act. What actress do you think could have been a better fit for Paige, Es? I think there was a thread about this subject sometime ago... After having Rose McGowan around for so long, it's hard to see another actress fitting in as a Halliwell, let alone one of the sisters... |
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Post by Lexi on Sept 1, 2010 5:46:00 GMT -5
You know something, i liked the *idea* of Chris if they've had just decided beforehand what they were going to do with the character and what that character was going to be like - and find an actor that could have pulled it all off!
Daniel, you're right, the only few actors that were good after Connie and her team left were the ones you listed although I've got to add Charisma Carpenter to the list.
And as for Rose McGowen, there were plenty of actresses that I could see playing Paige better, and still look like they were a half-sister. Jennifer Love Hewitt (the way she played Melinda Gordon on Ghost Whisperer is the way I would have loved to have seen Paige the Social Worker) or Eliza Dushku are the two at the top of my list.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 1, 2010 7:28:21 GMT -5
I agree completely with you, Lexi. Like so many things in the latter seasons, Chris Perry was a fantastic idea horribly done, and if any of this post is true (Remember - I can't verify it; it just makes plenty of sense), Kern's lack of planning is a lot of the reason.
There are a few other actors who I'd add to your list, who, although I didn't always care for how their characters were written I did like as actors. Offhand:
Ivan Sergei (Henry)
Marisol Nichols (Bianca)
Kerr Smith (Brody)
Marnette Patterson (Christy)
Sandra Prosper (Sheila)
Balthazar Getty (Richard)
Kristopher/Jason Simmons (Young Wyatt)
Rebecca McFarland (Lynn)
Victor Webster (Coop)
There's probably others, but those are the ones who immediately come to mind. So I wouldn't put that much blame on the casting - just when they were casting Halliwells. Now writing? That's another story.
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 1, 2010 10:51:29 GMT -5
this reconstruction could be maybe true or maybe not but I do not think the spin off is not born because of Fuller I believe it was Supernatural fault other two brothers fighting evil could have been enough
Fuller is not a great actor he is a beautiful guy many fans love Chris character because of his green eyes I'ld love a Piper sons spin off because I love the boys but many teens'd love it because of the hot Chris
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 1, 2010 20:21:28 GMT -5
No, I don't think Supernatural had all that much to do with it. Had S6 been successful, I think they would've stopped Charmed where it was and started the spin-off the next season, two seasons before Supernatural got started.
Personally I think this is probably very true. I noticed at an old site that used to try to get the spin-off that Wes Ramsey kept writing giving his full support (of course - it would give him a job), but Drew Fuller never did. Of course not - he knew that, as the piece says, "his storyline was expanded to the maximum degree feasible".
Cute, yes. Good actor? Maybe. Great actor? Definitely not. Cardboard, unable to show emotion except great unbelievable anger and sighing impatiently. The character of Chris Perry needed so much more.
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Post by ljones on Sept 2, 2010 23:52:24 GMT -5
Men are not responsible with magic and evil will eventually take over? I knew to disregard such nonsense when Grams spoke those words in the Necromancer episode. But someone actually took those words seriously?
Obviously this person doesn’t believe that the Halliwells or any witch can function without some magical authority figure looming over them like an overpossessive parent. Good grief!!
I don’t recall Drew Fuller being unpopular during his time on “CHARMED”, except with a handful of fans. His acting talents weren’t highly thought of, but he seemed popular to me. Besides, he was the only thing I liked about Season Six and his presence on the show provided that season with its best episode, “Chris-Crossed”.
Rose McGowan proved she could act in Season Four. Once the writers began to screw around with the Paige character in Season Five, I think she lost interest in providing a good performance.
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 3, 2010 2:24:39 GMT -5
I do not think that ever happened they stopped a series to give room to a spin off
In the old site the same Ramsey said that it'ld be hard to have a charmed sons spin off because of Supernatural
Chriss Crossed is one of my favorite episodes and the contrast between the athletic Ramsey and the fragile Fuller helped to heighten the charm of the episode Chris was a complex character and Fuller'ld not be a great actor but he looked perfect for the character
I think simply that more great is the power more great is the risk of being dominated, man or woman is not important but Grams is Grams
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Post by Lexi on Sept 5, 2010 11:42:51 GMT -5
Grams was always very male unfriendly. There was a reason that Connie had started off the family line with only females, it was all change when Kern took over and wanted it to be male dominant.
Any reason why you decided it was nonsense straight away because I know a lot of fans didn't.
It's not really that they can't function without one, but whitelighters are guides and no matter how able a witch is, there is still need for a whitelighter to help and pass on advice. While Leo was a whitelighter he was never an overpossessive parent.
Season 7-8 proves that the sisters *did* need a whitelighter since they strayed too far from the path and became so selfish. If they'd have had a whitelighter to help guide them, I don't think that would have happened. (had the writers been right up to the job!)
You know something, I thought that when I first watched season 6, mind you, I watch all those episodes completely out of order, had no idea what was going on and was completely confused as to what was going on.
When I rewatched season 6 I realised just how bad his character and his acting was, and I've seen him in other things and his acting is just as bad. He just can't convey emotion apart from anger! Chris-Crossed was one of the best episodes of season 6 (not much to go off those in the season 6 episodes - bar season 8 it's my least favourite season) and was one of the most watched but as already stated, the viewer numbers went down considerably afterwards! It wasn't Chris that was popular, it was finally finding out who he was that was popular!
And if she really was a good actress then she would have been able to provide a continually good performance no matter how bored she was. That's what makes her a poor actress, she gets bored and you can clearly see it. If she didn't want to do something for so many years then she shouldn't have signed up to it. But she did, so she should have grown up and got on with it rather than making people bored of watching her!
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Post by Astral Echo on Sept 5, 2010 11:46:02 GMT -5
Grams was always very male unfriendly. There was a reason that Connie had started off the family line with only females, it was all change when Kern took over and wanted it to be male dominant. Any reason why you decided it was nonsense straight away because I know a lot of fans didn't. It's not really that they can't function without one, but whitelighters are guides and no matter how able a witch is, there is still need for a whitelighter to help and pass on advice. While Leo was a whitelighter he was never an overpossessive parent. Season 7-8 proves that the sisters *did* need a whitelighter since they strayed too far from the path and became so selfish. If they'd have had a whitelighter to help guide them, I don't think that would have happened. (had the writers been right up to the job!) You know something, I thought that when I first watched season 6, mind you, I watch all those episodes completely out of order, had no idea what was going on and was completely confused as to what was going on. When I rewatched season 6 I realised just how bad his character and his acting was, and I've seen him in other things and his acting is just as bad. He just can't convey emotion apart from anger! Chris-Crossed was one of the best episodes of season 6 (not much to go off those in the season 6 episodes - bar season 8 it's my least favourite season) and was one of the most watched but as already stated, the viewer numbers went down considerably afterwards! It wasn't Chris that was popular, it was finally finding out who he was that was popular! And if she really was a good actress then she would have been able to provide a continually good performance no matter how bored she was. That's what makes her a poor actress, she gets bored and you can clearly see it. If she didn't want to do something for so many years then she shouldn't have signed up to it. But she did, so she should have grown up and got on with it rather than making people bored of watching her! I'm just going to quote you Lexi as I agree completely with what you just said and you probably said it better than I ever could. |
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Post by ljones on Sept 7, 2010 11:17:56 GMT -5
Because it’s sexist, that’s why. And Brad Kern was right to point that out in “Necromancing the Stone”. The idea that women are responsible with magic and men aren’t is a sexist view. How is it the author of that article didn’t realize this?
I believe that the only way a whitelighter should offer advice or guidance is via the consent of said witch. What I dislike about the whitelighters’ presence in “CHARMED” was that the whitelighters acted as if witches have no choice but to accept their guidance or follow their orders. That was a big NO-NO in my book. Guardian angels are not supposed to behave in that manner. Besides, why didn’t the series allow the sisters to aquaint themselves with a more experienced witch or high priestess? Someone had actually created such a character in her series of “CHARMED” fan fiction. And it worked a lot better than a whitelighter.
Drew Fuller was no actor. Okay, he was a mediocre actor. But I do recall him being rather popular at the time Season Six aired.
That’s a myth. No good actor or actress worth his or her salt can really pull that off. Regardless of how good any performer was, if he or she was not into the role or disliked it, then this dislike or lack of interest was bound to appear in his or her performance. And it showed in McGowan’s performances during Seasons Five-Eight. However, there were episodes when she was able to rise above her usual lack of interest.
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Post by dario on Sept 7, 2010 14:54:53 GMT -5
McGowan, Fuller, Nick Lachey, Jason Lewis and a number of other highlights how the show struggled to bring in the right kind of actors. They weren't there for the right reasons and surely the buck has to stop with Kern and his casting department. Well I agree McGowan is not such a great actor, but I must say she did a well job acting Paige. If she is that bad, you all wouldn't have banner and avatars with Paige. |
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Post by Lexi on Sept 8, 2010 7:04:21 GMT -5
I don't think all males will agree that it was sexist. It was a show about three sisters so from the beginning everybody who watched it knew that it showed that women could be more powerful.
Grams only ever stated that in the Warren Line only women could be responsible with powers - I can't recall her saying anything bad about all men with powers, just the Warren Line. If you have something to support it the other way around then please post the proof here.
So are you saying that if a friend wanted to offer you advice on something they would have to ask you for permission for that first? Or if a teacher wanted to offer you guidence on your work, again, they would have to ask for permission first? That's what I saw a whitelighter as, they were never Guardian Angels (Leo only said they were LIKE Guardian Angels). And the Charmed Ones didn't have to follow the advice and guidance - that's the joys of free-will - as shown in Blinded by the Whitelighter (TCOs didn't want to follow Natalie's orders at first so decided not to. The main reason they did in the end was because they wanted Leo returned back to them).
No matter how old someone gets or how well they can do something, there are still things to learn and they can still needed advice on things - shown deeply in how they acted in Seasons 6-8!
I didn't know many people who watched Charmed from season 6 onwards - I was at a boarding college and caught the episodes in very odd orders but when I started on Charmed boards, I met more people who weren't Drew Fuller fans. Chris fans, yes, but that's because in fanfiction you can do all sorts with a character and write them exactly how you want. The actor though...I'm not too sure.
No, this is where I can't accept that. A good actor, even if they don't like the part, can still pull off the part. That's what acting is all about - making the audience believe something different. Rumor has it that Shannen Doherty and Alyssa Milano didn't get along during season 3 but on screen I couldn't tell. That shows that two actresses that can act can make the audience believe something completely different (if the rumors were true).
McGowan knew that she was a movie actress and not a TV actress, she shouldn't have said yes knowing that she was going to get bored so quickly. That's not just the sign of a bad actress but also the sign of a bad business woman too.
Dario, when? Season 4 was her best season, as it's been stated in another thread. For emotional scenes there was only season 4 where Paige can even be mentioned - Hell Hath No Fury and Paige from the Past. Other than that, there's nothing that stood out and made me think - yes, that was an excellent piece of acting.
Yes, people have Paige banner and avatars but again, you can do alot with fanfiction. The idea of a character is completely different to how the actress portrayed the character. There were a lot of moments in later Charmed that I think had they gotten a better actress for Paige, the emotional scenes could have been done much better. So the banners and avatars are for the character not the actress, it just so happens that that actress played the part.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 9, 2010 10:48:30 GMT -5
Different topic. Thinking about what the post that I quoted and discussing this with others, we came up with an interesting question. Given the evidence that we were given during S6, was Leo an Elder in the future that Chris originally came from? In most fanfics, he usually is, but what about the actual series?
Personally I think that changed as often as who Chris was, but, well, what do you guys think?
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Post by Lexi on Sept 9, 2010 11:58:04 GMT -5
Hmm, I think when Chris first came back he was only half-whitelighter. I know there were a lot of inconsistencies but one thing they did seem to mention a lot was that he was half-whitelighter and that he had to split his parents up so that he could get into TCOs' lives. He convinced Leo to go up there and make TCOs Gods.
I think though that in a lot of fanfics that people write (and I've done it myself) they have Chris go back to the future. Of course, by Chris making changes the future has changed but Chris did state (and Leo) on a number of occasions that they wouldn't know what future he was going back to. When he went back to the future, Leo's path had been changed and would have been an Elder - which is why a lot of people write Leo as an Elder in Chris' future.
I hope that makes sense, bit of a ramble today.
Technically, when Chris went to the future in Chris-Crossed, the current events should have caught up with him, so anything that he had changed - like Leo becoming an Elder - would have been a part of his memory, which means he would have had a duel set of memories, since he was still in the past when they were changed and so would have remembered the original timeline (something else that Leo had mentioned when helpnig Chris get back to the future.
Again, I hope that makes sense. If not, let me know and I'll try and rewrite it somehow.
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 9, 2010 16:21:25 GMT -5
In Chris Crossed Chis says he didn't want to change the future too much he thought of a surgical strike, when he is talking with Victor of Piper death he says he can't tell anything because it could change the future in even worse ways
So I think he'ld never take the risk to change too much the future making his father an Elder I think he did what Bianca told him "stick to your cover story" and used his knowledge of Titans crisis to become the CO whitelighter
No one usually tells his children the details of their conception Chris was worried because he didn't know that his birth was unscheduled
I think that in the original future Leo was an Elder and for this reason he wasn't able to spend more time with his second born, Wyatt was powerful and traumatized as Elder Leo had to watch over him Piper was a Charmed One and his charge leo wasn't able to find time for all his family sad to think butit'ld happen
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 15, 2010 13:00:51 GMT -5
Different topic. Thinking about what the post that I quoted and discussing this with others, we came up with an interesting question. Given the evidence that we were given during S6, was Leo an Elder in the future that Chris originally came from? In most fanfics, he usually is, but what about the actual series? Personally I think that changed as often as who Chris was, but, well, what do you guys think? I posted something similar to this on the site where the first post in this thread came from. The same person came up with what I think is the proper answer. Here's our convo: That person's reply to me (I'm not sure if s/he's a male or female: This is yet ANOTHER giant plot hole the writers left along with the fact that Chris should be much more powerful since he was half Elder .
If you are asking me the Titan storyline was meant to concur with ANY possible timeline . The only difference is that many more Elders would be killed from the third Titan . I am sure that Piper and Phoebe would find a way to resurrect Paige .
Leo would STILL become an Elder and Chris would STILL be born after an against-the-rules copulation (they always broke the rules in the first 3 seasons) .
The point is that Wyatt would remain in Underworld for far too long with a detached Leo unwilling to help (the ONLY reason that he stayed in Earth for too long is because he DIDN'T TRUST CHRIS) .
A problematic Wyatt during his childhood and adolescence would make for much distraction to the Charmed Ones to the point that one of them would be killed in the process of vanquishing demons .
Apparently Piper was the last one to pass away (Victor was the last relative standing to take the custody) .
Victor didn 't have the powers to control a 16 year old Wyatt . Leo was an enstranged father . So evil Wyatt was totally corrupted and destroyed everything.
I guess this is the best scenario I could come up with . The writers could have done a better job (like in the Avatar subplot : they gave early clues in Season 5 and everything was resolved in Season 7). My reply: Thank you so much for your ideas. Most of this makes PLENTY of sense, and you could very well be right. I love the idea that Chris should've been a half-Elder during S6, because I've always believed that that's the only thing he did differently - made sure that his father was an Elder when he was conceived - but this - that what he changed was making Leo suspicious of him, so Leo stuck around more often than he should've - makes *much* more sense. That person's reply: To complement my theory here are some further clues about what REALLY happened
- Leo was always meant to be an Elder : Chris explains this in "Oh My Godess" . Leo didn't choose it . IT chose Leo .
The Titan attack simply hastened the promotion .
- In the original timeline after the revelation that Piper was pregnant Leo was contained in Heavenly Realm for good . The rest of the Elders made sure he was secluded from his family and he was strictly forbidden to watch over his family (evidenced in "Spin City" by his surprised reaction as he never knew about the second pregnancy and the true identity of Chris) . This made room for Gideon to make any plans he wanted (keep in mind that his original plan was to dispatch Leo in Ghostly Plane and only when this failed did he move to plan B to banish Leo).
- Apparently Leo was sure that his family was in good hands . There was probably another white lighter and Gideon was a reliable mentor above ANY suspicion . Keep in mind that noone knew about the possible threat .
- After Wyatt was kidnapped everyone was at a loss about what to do . Gideon hid him in the Underworld . There was no need for the Evil Universe (I will again stress the fact that he banished Leo and Chris there to get rid of the two Charmed guardians)
- The Charmed Ones apparently spent a few weeks vanquishing demons trying to locate Wyatt . Piper was probably in labor and couldn't help them .
- After Wyatt was finally found and Gideon was vanquished it was too late . Piper had baby Chris and she decided to focus on her family . She was so furious with the Elders that she didn't want Leo near the children . This explains why Leo didn 't stay in touch with his family . He remained a distant parent . (in Season 7 the death of a second Elder and Piper 's attempts to reinstate Leo in the family was the reason she had to keep in touch with the rest of the Elders) . In the original timeline the Avatars couldn't take advantage of Leo 's tormented state (plus he was secluded) so they never approached the Charmed Ones . Zankou was never freed . Even the Triad was never resurrected . The demons were too busy trying to convert an erratic Wyatt for the next years and a Charmed One could be killed in the process . After the power of three was broken the countdown began .
- Chris always felt the neglected child . Even after his mother 's death he had high hopes that his father was going to reunite with him . Leo cared more for the conversion of Wyatt and maintaining the Greater Good that he kept overlooking Chris (explaining the hate and the lines in the last scene of Spin City "You were always there for everybody : Mom , Wyatt , the world , EVERYONE . But not me ")
- When Chris was 22 and Wyatt had destroyed everything Chris with the help of Bianca decided to change history . His Valkyrie friends would make for good allies and he knew the most dangerous demons that apparently posed the greatest threats (the Trok demon , the anonymous Slime demon etc) . It is also fun trying to figure out which one of them killed his mother and his aunts Reactions? I've gotta admit, although it does NOT change my opinions of the lying, whining, murdering True Big Bad of Charmed, it makes a lot of sense. |
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Post by StoryGirl83 on Sept 15, 2010 13:17:37 GMT -5
That person has REALLY thought all that out. And it does make a lot of sense. I think they might be on to something.
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