Kit-the-cat
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Post by Kit-the-cat on Nov 7, 2007 20:35:37 GMT -5
At the end of the day, It's the Last Season of Charmed, Kern could of put his whole heart into it instead of only doing a half hearted job. The Sisters acting was far better than that of Season 7.
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Post by vandergraafk on Nov 8, 2007 18:21:35 GMT -5
Well, I won't comment on the quality of acting. It's beyond my abilities to judge. I will say, however, that the quality of writing to extract Charmed from the creative hole it dug for itself at the conclusion of Season 7 was top notch. I thought Kern and company handled the first 6 episodes of Season 8 nicely. They were top-notch episodes.
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Kit-the-cat
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Post by Kit-the-cat on Nov 9, 2007 8:12:53 GMT -5
Seriously?
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Post by vandergraafk on Nov 9, 2007 18:37:50 GMT -5
Yes! I am very serious. The only weakness, if you will, was the portrayal of the demons. The Malice in Wonderland skit was a bit too contrived - though the imagery was quite wonderful!. Still, in terms of plot structure for the metastory (the story arc itself), this worked quite well for me.
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Post by colehellsangel on Nov 9, 2007 18:50:40 GMT -5
I am at a loss to know how to even begin such a discussion. First, the episode (All Hell Breaks Losse) was intended as a season ending cliff-hanger. Any one of the Charmed Ones could have died or none of them. What caused Prue to die was not the result of anything inherent in the episode or the logical consequence of a story arc that had been brewing. Much like Andy's demise, it was dictated by the elimination of a character through the pink-slipping of a an actor or actress. What more can be said? {Edited to change the subject title.}No it could not have been avoided. It happened because Shannon refused to continue the show so they had to get rid of her character. It was not something intended by the writers.
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Kit-the-cat
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Post by Kit-the-cat on Nov 10, 2007 18:12:55 GMT -5
OMG....should i shout at her or should someone else...I'm gonna do it.
SHANNEN WAS FIRED!!!! Kern sacked her when she was OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
She didn't walk away from the show at all, she thought she was returning for the forth season. So in fact yes it COULD of been avoided. because KERN SHOULD NOT OF SACKED HER.
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Post by colehellsangel on Nov 10, 2007 19:04:58 GMT -5
OMG....should i shout at her or should someone else...I'm gonna do it. SHANNEN WAS FIRED!!!! Kern sacked her when she was OUT OF THE COUNTRY. She didn't walk away from the show at all, she thought she was returning for the forth season. So in fact yes it COULD of been avoided. because KERN SHOULD NOT OF SACKED HER. Excuse me but it seems to me that you have an attitude in everything you say around here thats really not necessary ok. Not everyone knows all the facts; personally I have heard so many that I am not sure what to believe. But if Assassin Witch is correct than she was sacked or walked away because of issues with Alyssa on Alyssa's request because she went to the head honchos and requests that its either her or Shannon. You really don't need to be rude, some people can't help not knowing especially because stuff on the internet can so easily be made up or the source themselves mistaken. I read the contract thing on IMDB but according to Assassin Witch you can't always rely on it to be honest. Other websites are just as unreliable, a big one being Wikipedia.
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Post by whitelightertony on Nov 10, 2007 23:52:38 GMT -5
How do we know that Kern made the call to fire Shannen? For all we know, the final decision could have been mandated and handed down by Aaron Spelling. Kern couldn't have done anything about it, because Spelling was his boss.
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Post by spiritsas on Nov 11, 2007 14:51:20 GMT -5
More than likely, Kern did not fire SD and that, if it wasn't Spelling, it was the WB execs. It would not be the first time studio execs interferred with the cast of a show, but firing one of the stars of a show was a very bold and risky move. It put the show in an awkward situation. Although they were lucky to get Rose McGowan, it took a whole year to really work her into the mainstream process of what they do and it also changed the nature of the show from the darker version with SD to a lighter funnier version with RM.
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Post by ljones on Nov 11, 2007 22:30:21 GMT -5
I think that this is an assumption. I don't think we will ever know the truth of what really happened.
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Post by colehellsangel on Nov 12, 2007 0:25:14 GMT -5
I think that this is an assumption. I don't think we will ever know the truth of what really happened. I agree there are so many stories out there from so many sources that we can't guarantee to be genuine that I don't know what to side with which I guess is how it is supposed to be. I think this is a question that will likely never be solidly answered.
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Post by whitelightertony on Nov 12, 2007 1:03:34 GMT -5
If Aaron Spelling hadn't wanted Shannen off the show, he wouldn't have let Kern make the decision to fire her.
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Kit-the-cat
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Post by Kit-the-cat on Nov 12, 2007 6:27:08 GMT -5
I dont have a attitude at all. I am very pleasant to people around here and have been since i joined in 2005. But it has been repeated many times before that Shannen was sacked.
Spelling must of liked Shannen to of cast her in two of his shows, so i highly dowt Spelling was the one giving the marching orders.
Ljones i totally agree with you, cos no one but Shannen knows the truth, and i dont think she will ever give her story to the papers.
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Post by vandergraafk on Nov 13, 2007 19:39:25 GMT -5
Does it really matter who pulled the trigger? The deed was done.
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Kit-the-cat
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Post by Kit-the-cat on Nov 14, 2007 9:26:02 GMT -5
and i so wish it had been thought through more than it was. Do you think the Sacker even thought about how the fans would feel? Cos if he did then he must not of cared that much.
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Post by whitelightertony on Nov 17, 2007 23:34:47 GMT -5
Do you honestly believe that Aaron Spelling (or the WB, for that matter) gave Kern unilateral power to pink-slip one of the biggest-name lead actresses on one of its most popular shows?
*in a Paige voice* Don't-think-so!
I think a lot of people here want to believe it was Kern who made the decision to fire Shannen, because they blame him for so many other things that went wrong with the series. How convenient.
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Post by ljones on Nov 18, 2007 7:17:53 GMT -5
I'm quite certain that both Spelling and Kern were to blame. And considering Kern's attitude toward Shannen, I'm certain that he played a part in the decision.
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Post by whitelightertony on Nov 18, 2007 17:44:20 GMT -5
Definitely could be the case.
My only point was that Kern wouldn't have been able to get away with firing Shannen, had Spelling himself not been on-board with it.
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Post by ljones on Nov 18, 2007 20:29:10 GMT -5
Definitely could be the case. My only point was that Kern wouldn't have been able to get away with firing Shannen, had Spelling himself not been on-board with it. True.
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Post by vandergraafk on Nov 19, 2007 20:21:41 GMT -5
Perhaps that's why Aaron Spelling agreed to appear as part of the mourners at the manor in Charmed Again Part 1, i.e., to dispel the notion that Shannen's eviction was the result of a coup d'etat from Mr. Kern.
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