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Post by MarAcev on Aug 30, 2007 20:14:47 GMT -5
I think the idea was for him to stay a whitelighter but take the Charmed ones off the radar. He would still have clients, other than the sisters. The Angel never promised to completely remove magic from their lives, just to wipe the slate clean in terms of who the charmed ones were as witches. Nobody would ever come after THEM again, Leo was fair game.
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Post by foxfire on Aug 30, 2007 20:16:15 GMT -5
Then there's another catch. Could the Charmed Ones protect Leo if a Darklighter were ever after him?
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Post by MarAcev on Aug 30, 2007 20:23:48 GMT -5
That was when things were going to get really, really tough for them. They most certainly would not have been able to care for him.
As much as Piper wanted to be normal, she was never going to achieve that as long as she was involved with Leo.
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Post by foxfire on Aug 30, 2007 20:29:47 GMT -5
Clearly.
You know, I'm really glad at least one of the girls ended up with someone normal. Since this is about the Season Three departure, if Prue stayed would she have also found love in a normal man or a supernatural one?
A lot of the Charmed Ones have had supernatural boyfriends over the years. Piper had Leo, Phoebe had Cole and Coop, and Paige had Henry. Prue never got the chance to have a supernatural boyfriend, did she?
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Post by MarAcev on Aug 30, 2007 20:34:03 GMT -5
Henry was mortal. Paige had Richard.
I don't think Prue ever dated a magical being. However, didn't Piper end up with a mortal husband? ;D
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Post by foxfire on Aug 30, 2007 20:41:39 GMT -5
Ah, that's true. We sure are having a conversation here, MarAcev.
I think Prue may have dated a demon or something. I know she married one. But overall she just had normal guys. Andy, Bane and Jack.
Paige had three normal boyfriends and one witch (Richard). Phoebe had.... oh God I'm not going to bother to count. That would require more than one hand. LOL
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Post by MarAcev on Aug 30, 2007 20:49:35 GMT -5
Prue also dated the very normal and butter eating Dick, the stood up Shawn, Piper's classmate Justin and Mitch, the Halloween hottie. They were all normal. I think at that time in the series, they had their magical hands full with a demonic boyfriend and an angelic husband.
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Post by foxfire on Aug 30, 2007 21:03:04 GMT -5
I know. Poor Prue got the short end of the stick. In season eight they rush to get everyone into relationships but they couldn't take their time to give Prue a boyfriend that lasted more than one episode in season three?
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 31, 2007 14:47:43 GMT -5
Well, then, they wanted Phoebe, Paige and Piper to live happily ever after while they were getting Prue ready to die. I have a hunch that had Prue lived, she would've ended up with a non-magical husband--she would've needed someone strong. Funny--in my mind, I keep seeing her eventually ending up with Zankou! There was someone who matched her in intelligence and who would've seen saving the world as important. Had it been her who had become an Avatar rather than Leo (and I see her doing it, if she thought it would save innocents), I can certainly see them together, and with her pride, oh, yeah, Zankou would've eventually become good! Phoebe with her cupid, Piper with her useless mortal ex-whitelighter who she can walk all over, Paige with her strong mortal who also believes in service, and Prue with her reformed demon (she'd do a better job with a demon than Phoebe did, because she would make sure he stayed a demon but stayed on the straight and narrow--she wouldn't try to turn him into a useless mortal!) I like it! That's what would make all of them happy!
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Post by foxfire on Aug 31, 2007 14:58:15 GMT -5
I don't think Prue would have become an Avatar. She's not easily manipulated. Not like Leo. She would have been on Paige's side. At the very least, she'd have asked a million and one questions.
Although, Phoebe grew tired of being a witch with the Cole saga so it's possible that Prue would have become tired too. It would be interesting to see a Prue version of "Witch Way Now?"
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 31, 2007 15:18:59 GMT -5
I don't think Prue would have become an Avatar. She's not easily manipulated. Not like Leo. She would have been on Paige's side. At the very least, she'd have asked a million and one questions. Although, Phoebe grew tired of being a witch with the Cole saga so it's possible that Prue would have become tired too. It would be interesting to see a Prue version of "Witch Way Now?" You're right that Prue's not easily manipulated and you're right--she would've figured a way of working with Zankou without needing to turn into an Avatar. ANd I'm also wrong in that when she saw what the Avatars were trying to do--take away free will--OOO, would she have blown her top! Oh, man, I would've loved to see that! But I don't see her taking Paige's side--she would've seen Paige as being as traitorous to the family as Phoebe was when she became Cole's Queen of the Underworld, and like that, she simply would've gone and dragged her sister back and told Brody to come back when he was less obsessive--he didn't deserve her sister--now forget him, Paige, and let's figure a way of stopping the Avatars from taking away innocents' free will! And PHOEBE! If you think that we're going to let them take away free will just so that you can have YOUR DAUGHTER?? Have you lost your freakin' mind?? All right, everyone, minds off your men and back on the job at hand. How do we stop the Avatars? Yes, Piper, I know your husband decided to join them in order to save your life. And I'm glad he did. But the Avatars are evil--they're trying to take away everyone's free will! You don't really want to be a robot, do you? I didn't think so. Ok, right now! Minds off your men and let's figure out how to save the world. Again! Well, Avatar Leo! So nice of you to join us! What? We have to join forces with evil, with Zankou?? Well, I'm not nuts on the idea, but we did with the Source and Tempus in order to turn back time and save Piper's life, and Phoebe and Piper did in order to save the world and eventually bring me back. Very well, let's do it! Just watch Zankou! We can't trust him! Well, Phoebe got tired because she couldn't have what she wanted, the way Piper got tired of Leo being a whitelighter when she couldn't have what she wanted. If Zankou working with the demons and Prue working with the forces of good meant that the innocents would be OK and be able to live their lives without worrying about demons (Prue's version of the demon-truce--marry the demons' leader while staying good), I think it would work.
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Post by foxfire on Aug 31, 2007 17:40:31 GMT -5
No Phoebe only grew tired because of the fact that she was evil. To her, being a witch meant bad things for her (during "Witch Way Now"). Let's not forget, Phoebe wouldn't go on the "I NEED A DAUGHTER" hunt until the events of season six. So we had a two full seasons of non-Freebie. Unfortunately, instead of developping Phoebe they got Piper pregnant -- twice.
I don't think Prue would have dragged Paige away. She didn't do it with Phoebe and wouldn't do it with Paige. It's a freewill type thing. Besides, I think Prue's the kind of person who likes saying "I told you so."
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 31, 2007 20:04:18 GMT -5
I don't think Prue would have dragged Paige away. She didn't do it with Phoebe and wouldn't do it with Paige. It's a freewill type thing. Besides, I think Prue's the kind of person who likes saying "I told you so." ROFLMFAO! Oh, Foxfire! I'm laughing so hard I quite literally have tears rolling down my face! Once more you prove that you know our favorite sister a LOT better than I do! And for that, you get blessed!
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Post by foxfire on Aug 31, 2007 21:29:32 GMT -5
*BLUSH* Oh I'm glad you got a good laugh out of that one.
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Post by CharmedFan4Ever on Oct 28, 2007 18:38:59 GMT -5
I voted to kill no one at the end of season 3. There could have been various ways of saving the Power of 3, which is just what it means, the power of 3 sisters.
After All Hell Breaks Loose, and possibly the beginning of season 4, Piper could have decided that it was not worth the daily risking of her life to save others. She decides to give up her powers, and cannot be talked out of it by Prue and Phoebe. So Leo, who was the protectors of the Charmed Ones, goes to elders for advice on what to do. It is then that they tell him about the 4th sister, Paige, who was a product of the affair of Patty and Sam. The girls already knew about Patty and Sam, so Prue decides to seek her out, and get the lowdown on her. When she realizes that Paige is not only a witch but also a white-lighter, she brings the information back to her sisters, as a solution to the power of 3 problem.
Paige's backstory could stay the same, given up at birth, being raised by adopted parents, being a rebel when she was younger and saving herself from the car accident that killed her parents. The sisters take it upon themselves to teach Paige the wiccan ways, so that she can step in for Piper, leaving Piper free to pursue a life outside of magic. And she could still have a relationship with Leo, sort of a reverse Patty and Victor, and still have children with magical abilities. After all, Piper's decision to have a normal life, shouldn't have affected the genes in her children. She was born of magic, so her children would have been the same way. Plus, they would have had one-half of Leo's whitelighter abilities. Piper would still have remained the peacemaker between the sisters, just not at a magical level. Eventually Prue would have met someone who matched her personality, either magical or human, and would have fell in love and married. The destiny and legacy of the Charmed Ones would have been passed down through all of their children, leading to maybe a spin-off or future Charmed projects featuring the next generation of Charmed magic.
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Post by ljones on Oct 28, 2007 18:56:15 GMT -5
And you came to this conclusion . . . how? Prue Halliwell and Phoebe Halliwell were two different people. Phoebe grew tired of being a witch with the Cole saga? How on earth did you come to this conclusion?
Also . . . Bane Jessup may have been a mortal, but he was not normal.
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Post by foxfire on Oct 30, 2007 9:52:56 GMT -5
Let's look at it this way, by the end of season four Paige was really the only one gunning to keep being witches. Phoebe (who used to love being a witch) completely gave up and didn't want to have to deal with anything magic anymore. Then, in season five Paige takes the reign of potion and spells for the Charmed Ones.
Looking at Prue, it's possible that the events of season four might have made her resent being a witch. For example, seeing Phoebe go through what she went through might have made Prue angry and she could have realized that it wouldn't have ever happened if they hadn't been witches. We also don't know what Prue would have gone through personally (i.e. job, love life). I was just saying that it's possible that she would have been tired of the witchy life.
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Post by vandergraafk on Oct 30, 2007 10:51:31 GMT -5
I just can't imagine Prue ever buying into the whole Avatar stuff. In one very important measure, she and Paige are alike. Neither accepts conventional wisdom. Whereas Paige uses her dislike of accepted truth and turns it into an act of rebellion, Prue uses hers to build a vast storehouse of knowledge which she has used to devastating effect. Her near encyclopedic knowledge of things ancient, as well as her ability to master the nuances of photography, aptly demonstrate that.
With Paige gleefully playing the part of the rebel whose embrace of witchcraft simply confirms her non-conformist presence, her dissenting views can easily be dismissed. Indeed, many times Piper chose to ignore her "sister's" insights one way or another. Phoebe, as a fellow rebel, but for entirely different reasons, can at least give Paige the time of day, then ignore them as Phoebe, deep inside, wants to go along. She doesn't like conflict and will go to great lengths to avoid conflict: move to New York, become Queen of the Underworld, try to save the AA dude and thereby straddle the line between good and evil.
Prue, on the other hand, because she has built up a vast storehouse of knowledge and can use this information to challenge accepted wisdom, cannot be ignored by Piper so easily. Indeed, Piper feels intimidated by the intellectual prowess that Prue brings to the table and can easily demonstrate, be it in front of Roger or any of the other bosses at Bucklands: Rex, Claire and Mr. Caldwell. Piper, though she is also quite intelligent and could theoretically give Prue a run for her money, chooses not to. Instead, she hides her abilities and prefers, as long as Prue is alive, to remain in the shadows. Indeed, the mere idea of coming out in public frightens her, as she discovered to her dismay in high school.
Phoebe, although she gets into many arguments with Prue, ultimately knows that Prue is right, which is probably why she gets so upset at Prue. Worse: Phoebe is not as capable intellectually of countering Prue. Instead, she attacks her on an emotional basis and adds just the right amount of venom to expose Prue in her one area of vulnerability: personal relationships. Prue may very well be a sharp businesswoman, but it costs her time and again in personal relationships where her weaknesses allow men to take advantage of her (Roger) or where to avoid the exposure of her weaknesses she distances herself from promising relationships (Andy).
Prue is and remains a classic Type A personality. Phoebe is a Type B, while Piper initially is a Type C personality. Like Prue, Paige is a Type A personality.
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Post by whitelightertony on Oct 30, 2007 20:33:47 GMT -5
Maybe the Avatars had an idea Prue would be killed, so they waited until her death before they made their move to have Utopia built?
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Post by ljones on Oct 30, 2007 21:37:39 GMT -5
Actually . . . Phoebe was as intellectually capable as Prue. But her personality had a way of getting in the way of her common sense. Sometimes, Prue's own personality and tendency to jump to conclusions got in the way of her common sense.
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