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Post by vandergraafk on Jun 23, 2006 18:34:59 GMT -5
Compared to the crap that is left on the CW, another season of Charmed would have been perfect. But, there's no way Alyssa or Rose would have gone along. Not with the way they had been treated.
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Post by Astral Prue on Jun 24, 2006 5:46:30 GMT -5
I agree with all of you! I'm going to miss Piper! I've always loved seeing Piper juggle her duties of being a successful Mom, Wife, Witch, Older sister and also Business owner on Charmed. It was so motivating. She has actually motivated me to pursue and work hard for my personal goals and usefully struggle my many duties and roles as she did, even though she is a fictional character. She is truly an inspirational character to watch. Oh yeah, and she also had this confidence about her that made me look up to her all these years... Pipers confidence started to show as soon as she had to take leader position when Prue died.
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Post by xCharmedRealityx on Jun 24, 2006 5:55:05 GMT -5
piepr took over the role of prue, and she was really good at it, but i dont think anyone could have been better thean prue, but it was nice to see they all had a happy ending.
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Post by MarAcev on Jun 24, 2006 14:08:31 GMT -5
So what you're saying is that you're agreeing with me: Piper is the only reason to even consider buying this God awful season.
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Post by vandergraafk on Jun 27, 2006 11:39:58 GMT -5
No, I am not saying that Piper was the only reason to buy this season. I liked the episodes 1 through 10 immensely. After Vaya con Leos, the story arc was weaker. That's not to say the episodes were not without merit. Paige and Billie and the bank hostage story: now that's an episode worth viewing again, and again, and again.
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Post by MarAcev on Jun 27, 2006 12:43:26 GMT -5
Funny, it's one that I honestly find most boring.
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Post by charmedfan4evr on Jun 27, 2006 13:00:21 GMT -5
No, I am not saying that Piper was the only reason to buy this season. I liked the episodes 1 through 10 immensely. After Vaya con Leos, the story arc was weaker. That's not to say the episodes were not without merit. Paige and Billie and the bank hostage story: now that's an episode worth viewing again, and again, and again. I think the opposite. I thought the storylines after Vaya con Leos were much better. From Engaged and Confused and so forth. Yes it sucked that Leo was not there, but Pipers determination to get him back was very worth while watching. Paige and Henry tied the knot,we got to see more of Chris and Wyatt, we met Coop who tied the knot with Phoebe and her quest for love was finally over, and best of all Jenkins vs. TCO's showdown, and TCOs kicked a$$, as expected.
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Post by MarAcev on Jun 27, 2006 14:24:47 GMT -5
I would agree with what you said except for the Coop part. I can't stand that character and the fact that the elders felt that Phoebe needed to be rewarded for her "sacrifice" while Piper was always being put to the test and punished.
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Post by vandergraafk on Jun 27, 2006 17:28:46 GMT -5
Piper's reward should be a daughter, Prudence Melinda. And, as for the other episodes - those past #10. Yes, I took like many of them quite a lot. Engaged and Confused is classic Charmed. But, the ultimate battle was a rather weak story line insofar as it rested on a revised, but sartorially challenged Triad. (Why are the Triad now wearing the Council's cloaks that bore a pentacle, albeit on the front and not the back? See Careful What You Witch For?) an unpersuasive seduction of Billie, the absolutely vile character of Christy. (Gosh, even the Seer Mark I had her good side compared to Christy!) and diminished roles for Paige and Phoebe. Don't get me wrong. I still liked Season 8 quite a bit, and I am as saddened as anyone else that Charmed has ended for now. But seriously, Zankou posed a much greater threat than the Jenkins sisters. I would have preferred for Zankou to have been resurrected. Now that would have been an ultimate battle: Zankou and the Jenkins sisters vs. the Charmed Ones.
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Post by p3charm on Jun 27, 2006 17:33:12 GMT -5
vandergraafk....Piper did get her daughter. We saw that in the last episode. Piper had her little girl she saw in Morality Bites. We just weren't told her name.
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Post by rebeccamatthews on Jun 27, 2006 22:00:03 GMT -5
vandergraafk....Piper did get her daughter. We saw that in the last episode. Piper had her little girl she saw in Morality Bites. We just weren't told her name. Yet, people are saying that she, the girl in the lunch scene, is Phoebe's. Piper is the main reason I'm buying season 7 and 8, I think that the two eppies were horrible.
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Post by p3charm on Jun 27, 2006 22:12:25 GMT -5
Except we saw each of the girls with their kids seperately. They each ended up with three kids. Phoebe has the next set of Charmed One's.....three daughters. Paige had twin girls and a boy. Why would Piper be with her boys and only one of Phoebe's girls when they were showing us a glimpse of each girls future seperately?
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Post by MarAcev on Jun 28, 2006 8:31:10 GMT -5
No next Charmed ones. The charmed ones was a one time deal. Three daughters does not equate automatically charmed ones. Please, of all people for Phoebe to have them? God no. That is not a reward from the elders. Piper worked really hard for her family and was given nothing but grief from the elders. Unlike Phoebe who in the end was given everything in a silver platter. I guess Piper should've married the source of all evil instead of a whitelighter if she wanted the elders to baby her.
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Post by p3charm on Jun 28, 2006 8:59:31 GMT -5
My point was we saw Phoebe had three daughters, Paige had twin daughters and a son, and Piper had the boys and there was a little girl there too. I know three daughters doesn't automatically mean they are charmed....the charmed line ended with Paige, I know that. The point is we were being shown a glimpse of the sisters futures individually and we saw Phoebe and her three girls, Paige with her two girls and her son, and Piper with Wyatt, Chris, and a little girl. Why would the little girl be in the glimpse of Piper's future if she was Phoebe's daughter? Wouldn't she be in the glimpse of Phoebe's future? I mean it only makes sense that way.
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Post by MarAcev on Jun 28, 2006 9:13:20 GMT -5
I'm not disputing that, honest. I agree with you there. It makes no sense to show Piper with another kid and then go around and say it's not hers' and Leo's. It's the "Phoebe has the next set of Charmed ones" thing that annoys me.
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Post by p3charm on Jun 28, 2006 11:27:21 GMT -5
Yeah if Phoebe had a set of Charmed Ones I think the world would be doomed....
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Post by rebeccamatthews on Jun 28, 2006 12:03:54 GMT -5
If there were to be another set of Charmed Ones it should be Piper to be the mother. She wasn't selfcentered for several seasons, she is a hard worker and a great leader. Piper has alwyas been the leader for the past five years. She was always caring. Phoebe would teach the children to be selfcentered little witches.
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Post by p3charm on Jun 28, 2006 13:15:11 GMT -5
Rebecca.....the reason I even mentioned a next set of Charmed Ones (which was a mistake) is because we saw Phoebe with three daughters in the future. Based on what we saw of their futures if there was a next set of Charmed Ones (which there isn't) it wouldn't be from Piper because we saw her with her two sons (Wyatt and Chris) and her daughter she saw in Morality Bites. The Charmed Ones are three sister witches and with Wyatt and Chris in the mix that seems a bit hard if it were to happen but like maracev said the Charmed Ones were a one time deal.
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Post by vandergraafk on Jun 28, 2006 13:58:23 GMT -5
Come on, quit dissing Phoebe. Phoebe could certainly handle being mother to the Charmed Ones next generation, though the legacy/prophecy would require a drastic re-writing. After all, she is the witch who at least in the beginning (Season 1 and 2) knew more about witchcraft than Prue and Piper. (See for example, how to test for a warlock, etc.)
The real question, though, is what was unique about the Charmed Ones. Why were three such powerful sisters to come about? What was their mission? Would the world have been different had they not been born? This is an issue that the series clumsily avoided discussing the whole 8 years. Why? Because it was a TV show that initially had the life expectation of what three or four shows!?! Once its popularity was proved, the show kind of took on a life of its own. As a result, the Wiccan pretenses were pretty quickly abandoned and the show never addressed its raison d'etre, given the need to craft a) story arcs and b) a new demon of the week.
Let me suggest what could have been argued. First, that without the birth of the Charmed Ones evil was going to reign ascendant. Second, that only the Charmed Ones could stop the attempt by the Source to bring about that ascendancy. Third, that the efforts of the Charmed Ones would pay off in a better world, one where evil might not even play a role at all, but, given free will, probably still would tempt innocents.
The closest the series ever came to addressing this issue was the whole Avatar thing. But, maybe due to pressure from the WB, the whole issue of creating a better world was short-circuited. Too many Republicans and christian capitalists have a deep desire to keep things as they are. Keep feeding the demands of the greedy and keep soft soaping the rest of us proletariat who believe that one day too their dreams can come true.
Uh oh, sounds like a new thread "The Politics of Charmed" Sorry! I digress. In the event, we never really get to know what the Source wants. He only reacts defensively to a threat posed by the Charmed Ones. Scores of warlocks and demons fail so that finally he is forced to take action himself. But why care unless he knows something about the Charmed Ones that makes it imperative to eliminate them, i.e., that they will usher in a better world.
And, Piper - yes, this is the Piper thread - she is mother to the Charmed Sons who will handle the minor threats posed by future evil. Hey, even Prudence Melinda, it seems, won't have to deal with too many demons. Maybe it's in Prudence Melinda that Piper finally realizes what a normal life could be from day one. Hey, that might even explain why she is not with Chris and Wyatt in the potion part of Forever Charmed!
By the way, now is anyone truly puzzled by Gideon's behavior? He was extremely disturbed by the fact that the Elders had allowed Wyatt to be born. Well, as we know now, that wasn't the issue. True, he will have immense powers, but he may in fact not have to use many of these. Simply the possession of these powers may ward off evil plotters (Still Charmed and Kicking). No, it was the fact that Wyatt could be turned that made him an issue. And, who was the number one bad guy for turning Wyatt. Well, none other than Gideon himself. Talk about self-destroying prophecies. Yikes!
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Post by HollysFan on Jun 28, 2006 18:11:06 GMT -5
What does capitalism have to do with Charmed and the Avatar storyline?
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