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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 24, 2015 0:24:38 GMT -5
OH, please don't misunderstand me! Paige is my favorite sister of the second set, especially in Season Four and Eight, the way Phoebs is my favorite of the first set until she meets Cole, the real reason why I don't like Cole - her meeting him ended up ruining her, something that I don't think would've happened in the real Charmedverse with Prue alive, since when she'd realized that Cole was evil, her sisters would've believed her and they would've found out about the infection of the Source's powers and been able to help him long before Phoebe became the Queen of the Underworld.
In the alternate universe spin-off, Paige is both a living whitelighter and a Charmed One, because as a living whitelighter, she was able to move things with her mind, and Patty was her mother so she's a Warren. Despite what Piper and Phoebe said, her power was not a witch one or a hybrid one - if it was, Chris would've had the same one. Chris was a witch with a single whitelighter power, that to orb, and a single Warren power, moving things with his mind; Paige had all of the whitelighter powers, making her a living whitelighter who could cast spells and make potions, but not a witch, even though she *is* a Charmed One who can help cast Power of Three spells.
Repeat: Paige *is* a Charmed One - we've never said she wasn't - she's just not a prophesied Charmed One, the reason why the first set was more powerful and would've been much more powerful had Prue not died - no way the first set would've had to call on the Warren matriarchs to vanquish the Source - which is also the reason why Paige only had whitelighter powers which never developed into anything stronger, especially when empathy would've made more sense for her as a whitelighter than it did for Phoebe. Phoebe getting a power that had nothing to do with seeing the future no matter how badly you twist it shows that Melinda Warren's prophecy was no longer in effect.
In the alternate-universe spin-off (S4-8), THE JENKINSES are the most powerful witches. Had they had a third sister and been able to access the Power of Three, they would've blown the two Halliwells plus one Matthews out of the water, while the first set - who by that point would've had the powers we saw in "Morality Bites" - would've blown *those three* out. They would've been the Ultimate Power, not the Jenkinses.
That is all that we are saying. Paige is a Charmed Ones, but not a prophesied Charmed One because the prophecy and the Charmed Ones' destiny to protect innocents died with Prue. Even though the second set can access the Power of Three, as the Power of Three, they aren't as powerful as the prophesied Charmed Ones - Prue, Piper and Phoebe - not when they had to call on the Warren matriarchs to vanquish the Source or cheat by using Prue's astral projection to defeath Zankou or take in the Hollow to offset the Hollow in the Jenkinses. All of these battles show how unpowerful the second set was, because that was now their destiny - to *not* be the most powerful witches who ever lived.
As Prue actually said in the comics, "How else do you think that little blonde and her sister were such a threat to the Charmed Ones? Ultimate Power? My a$$!"
Amen. The true Ultimate Power should've been the first set of Charmed Ones, but they were never able to fulfill that prophecy - and neither did the second set because they couldn't - they could only fulfill their own destiny - destroying the Source - twice - and when they agreed to continue their destiny, they set up their family to have to battle demons rather than protect innocents forever.
I definitely prefer the real Charmed, which is why I'll never get the S4-8 DVDs.
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Post by erikamarie on Jan 8, 2016 11:32:26 GMT -5
I agree with this kind of vision even if I think that their existance was their destiny, being the most powerful witches, in the prophecy there is no mention of obligations or battles to face, only that usually good witches help the innocents
The empathy can arise from the bonding that could born seeing the future or the past of a person, I think it was a power suitable for Phoebe It wasn't for Prue and I think that Cole's dirty trick was the strongest attack launched against Prue, so strong to destabilize her, the first step towards the tiredness and tension that will lead her to make mistakes and being killed
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Post by pixiesunbelle on May 15, 2018 9:46:08 GMT -5
Personally I like her as both and I think her ultimate destiny was to do both. It wasn’t just the Elders that forced it upon her- it was Piper and Phoebe too. It was apart of herself that she couldn’t deny. And she couldn’t. It was the reason she became a temp in the first place. She couldn’t stay in one place for too long because she longed to constantly help people in different places. I think it very much fits her character.
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Post by universalcharmed on Jun 4, 2018 21:53:01 GMT -5
One thing I hated about the show was that it focused too much on them being the Charmed ones rather than powerful Witches from Melinda's Bloodline. What I mean is that it is unrealistic to believe the sisters would be together 24/7 for the rest of their lives. The Manor only had 3 bedrooms and 1 bathroom and these Women were already in their mid 20's when they discovered their powers. Phoebe was 23-24 in 1999, Piper was 24-25 and Prue was 28-29. What happens when they wanted to start a family? What about Marriage? Have a Career? They couldn't constantly depend on the power of 3 it was just unrealistic. Nor did they have to Patty protected them for over 20 years by herself.
I wish Paige and Phoebe moved out of the Manor in Season 7. Paige was running Magic school and Phoebe had a successful career. Piper was raising 2 kids and working on her marriage. They should have never stripped Phoebe of her powers in Season 6. Piper should have came into her third power and Paige should have already embraced and came into her whitelighter powers and had her second witch ability.
Here is How I feel like the breakdown should have went down:
Piper: -Season 1: She gains her Molecular immobilization. -Season 3: She comes into her Molecular Combustion. -Season 4: Piper comes into a new Power giving how emotional she was with Prue death and the feeling of almost losing another sister(Phoebe), discovering she has a new sister and stress with trying to conceive a child and the elders messing with her marriage. -Season 5:Focus on her pregnancy with Wyatt. -Season 6: Marital problems with Leo. No new power but seeing her powers get stronger. Using her Molecular Immobilization to actually freeze things and using combustion to start fires. No need for hand gestures all the time. -Season 7: Nothing power related but have her try to reinvent P3 into a club at night and a restaurant during the day. Focus more on her professional life. -Season 8: Continue reinventing herself professionally with opening an actual restaurant and still running P3.
Phoebe: -Season 1: Have her come into her Premonition ability. -Season 2: Have her come into her levitation ability. -Season 3: Relationship with Cole -Season 4: Going Evil for a little bit and Demonic Baby. -Season 5: Have her Empathic ability emerge. After coming off a traumatic year of losing her husband, Baby and Sister it would have been the perfect time to have happen. Also have her decide to move out. -Season 6: Have her levitation get stronger. Have her improve on her H2H combat skills. -Season 7: Have her Empathic powers increase. Career advancement from writing Columns to writing Books and tv shows. -Season 8: Introduce Astral Premonitions. Introduce a new Love interest for her.
As far as her emphatic ability I would have got rid of channeling and kept it simple to feeling and manipulating emotions. Similar to what Barbas did with Fear but Phoebe is able to do it with all emotions.
Paige: -Season 4: Had her come into her TKO and learning the ropes of becoming a witch. -Season 5: Introduced a new Witch ability for Paige. Nothing Fancy just keep it simple. -Season 6: Her trying to embrace her whitelighter roots and find her identity. Have her move out. -Season 7: Have her come into her third and final witch power. Also have her running Magic school. Trying to juggle being a Charmed One, Head of Mistress and Whitelighter. Introduce a Love interest for Paige. -Season 8: Marriage to mystery Lover and Pregnancy.
As far as her whitelighter powers I would have shown how her Witch side affects them as her whitelighter side affects her witch powers. Transform Mind Manipulation to Telepathy, Thermokinesis into Pyrokinesis/Cryokinesis, Sensing into limited Empathy, etc.
I enjoyed what the writers Originally did But this is just what I would have done.
As far as Billie and Christy in Season 8 is concerned I would have still given the Projection but only being able to access it together rather than it being a Billie specific power. The Charmed Ones have the Power of 3 while Billie and Christy have Projection.
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Feb 26, 2020 1:48:33 GMT -5
I love Paige. She's my second favourite sister, the first being Phoebe. Also, why are people so against Paige being a whitelighter? How do you argue for Wyatt and Chris then? They're also half-witch, half-whitelighter because Piper is a witch and Leo is a whitelighter, same like Patty and Sam.
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 26, 2020 7:43:53 GMT -5
I love Paige. She's my second favourite sister, the first being Phoebe. Also, why are people so against Paige being a whitelighter? How do you argue for Wyatt and Chris then? They're also half-witch, half-whitelighter because Piper is a witch and Leo is a whitelighter, same like Patty and Sam. I've always been against Wyatt and Chris being half-whitelighter as much as Paige - even more so, since Paige being half-whitelighter led to Wyatt being the Twice-Blessed Brat with all of those powers, making him more powerful than the Charmed Ones and making the show male-centric rather than female-centric, with the women useless without their men. The idea of dead men being able to pass their powers to their children never made sense to me. The show became "Witchlighter" rather than "Charmed" because starting with Paige, having a whitelighter for a father became more important than having a Warren for a mother. Had there been no such thing as halves with all three of them just pure witches with a single power (I'd also prefer the Charmed Ones with a single power each) and with Cole as a pure demon and not a half, I think Charmed would've been a much better show. IMOHO, by trying to make the show "fresh" in giving Paige a power that wasn't hybrid but a whitelighter version of Prue's, Kern ruined it.
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Feb 26, 2020 16:30:12 GMT -5
I see your point and I wasn't big on Wyatt being Twice-Blessed and super powerful, especially because why was he powerful and Chris wasn't? That was what didn't make sense to me more than the half-and-half thing. If Paige wasn't half-whitelighter though, she'd honestly seem like a cheap copy of Prue to be honest. If she was just a pure witch who could move things with her mind. Paige's personality is a lot like Prue's with mixes of S1-Phoebe thrown in there. But Paige is strong in her beliefs, whatever they may be, has a conflicted relationship with Sam, not liking the fact that he gave her up and wasn't a part of her life, is distrusting about Cole and is protective over Phoebe in the similar way that Prue was (think of both their reactions to Cole, Prue's reaction to Clay in S1, then Paige's reaction to Dex in S8 when she found out about his ex). I mean, I'm not saying Paige is exactly Prue but I feel its because of her half-whitelighter side that she isn't. One thing I do agree with you is that while I like her half-whitelighter side, she shouldn't have charges and should have continued being a social worker and a Charmed One. I also think Kern having Paige quit her job to become a full-time witchlighter was a bad decision and another desperate attempt to make her differ from Prue, who, like Paige mentions herself managed being a full-time witch with a full-time job.
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Post by Sasha on Feb 26, 2020 19:52:46 GMT -5
Yeah, having her quit her job as a social worker was the worst decision they ever made for her character. And just when she wanted to get that job back in S8, Sam shows up for something whitelighter related, and they dropped it.
I know some here, thought it made more sense for Phoebe to quit her job and Paige gets the promotion for her job. So Phoebe had Paige's arc of wanting to be a full-time witch in S5 instead.
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Feb 26, 2020 20:49:19 GMT -5
I agree with that. I feel like Phoebe wanted a break from magic though but I kind of wish she had gone to some sort of magical therapy after quitting her job and Paige remained a social worker or gotten promoted as one. Phoebe was the one who had been through hell - oh and Cole should have stayed dead (...I like Centennial Charmed though) but still.
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Post by Katie Warren on Feb 26, 2020 21:57:05 GMT -5
Phoebe needed therapy for sure after Cole. FOR SURE, he should have stayed dead in S4. Phoebe was the one who most loved magic when she found the book of shadows if it all went back and she rediscovered herself and truly mourned the loss of a baby and getting over Cole and her love. But she didn't, she just threw herself into her job, and then jumped at the next guy. She didn't deal with what she went through in S3 and S4. If anything that vision quest she had in S6, should have happened in S5, but not seeing her own future with a baby, no way, that ruined her character just as muxh as it did for Piper seeing Melinda, and as someone said here, it took the fun out of a natural pregnancy and the surprise of it all, when it was forseen in the future. Just a quest to find heself again, work through her issues, discover herself, mourn the loss of a child and Cole. On top of that, she can be an aunt to Piper new's baby. That is more than enough to give Phoebe an arc in S5. The temp jobs Paige had in S6, could just as easily been Phoebe's, and this helps her discover what she truly is passionate about for a job. Maybe she'll get to discover her love of magic again, that she had in the earlier seasons. So Phoebe is Paige's assistant at South Bay Social Services. Maybe Phoebe could be open a clinic and offer therapy to people and or maybe she could be a councilor at say a high school. She'd have the experience to help troubled kids. And if Phoebe had a relationship after Cole, I'd let it be Drake in S7, if she had nobody during Season 5 and 6. Especially, if Seven Year Witch is the first time we didn't see Cole since he died in S4.
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 27, 2020 1:03:04 GMT -5
Phoebe needed therapy for sure after Cole. FOR SURE, he should have stayed dead in S4. Phoebe was the one who most loved magic when she found the book of shadows if it all went back and she rediscovered herself and truly mourned the loss of a baby and getting over Cole and her love. But she didn't, she just threw herself into her job, and then jumped at the next guy. She didn't deal with what she went through in S3 and S4. If anything that vision quest she had in S6, should have happened in S5, but not seeing her own future with a baby, no way, that ruined her character just as muxh as it did for Piper seeing Melinda, and as someone said here, it took the fun out of a natural pregnancy and the surprise of it all, when it was forseen in the future. Just a quest to find heself again, work through her issues, discover herself, mourn the loss of a child and Cole. On top of that, she can be an aunt to Piper new's baby. That is more than enough to give Phoebe an arc in S5. The temp jobs Paige had in S6, could just as easily been Phoebe's, and this helps her discover what she truly is passionate about for a job. Maybe she'll get to discover her love of magic again, that she had in the earlier seasons. So Phoebe is Paige's assistant at South Bay Social Services. Maybe Phoebe could be open a clinic and offer therapy to people and or maybe she could be a councilor at say a high school. She'd have the experience to help troubled kids. And if Phoebe had a relationship after Cole, I'd let it be Drake in S7, if she had nobody during Season 5 and 6. Especially, if Seven Year Witch is the first time we didn't see Cole since he died in S4. Oh, Katie! I totally ADORE your ideas for Phoebe - you should find a thread in HER board and post these! These ideas would make a heckova great fanfic - OR as part of Classic Charmed, Done Our Way!
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Post by Katie Warren on Feb 27, 2020 1:08:02 GMT -5
Phoebe needed therapy for sure after Cole. FOR SURE, he should have stayed dead in S4. Phoebe was the one who most loved magic when she found the book of shadows if it all went back and she rediscovered herself and truly mourned the loss of a baby and getting over Cole and her love. But she didn't, she just threw herself into her job, and then jumped at the next guy. She didn't deal with what she went through in S3 and S4. If anything that vision quest she had in S6, should have happened in S5, but not seeing her own future with a baby, no way, that ruined her character just as muxh as it did for Piper seeing Melinda, and as someone said here, it took the fun out of a natural pregnancy and the surprise of it all, when it was forseen in the future. Just a quest to find heself again, work through her issues, discover herself, mourn the loss of a child and Cole. On top of that, she can be an aunt to Piper new's baby. That is more than enough to give Phoebe an arc in S5. The temp jobs Paige had in S6, could just as easily been Phoebe's, and this helps her discover what she truly is passionate about for a job. Maybe she'll get to discover her love of magic again, that she had in the earlier seasons. So Phoebe is Paige's assistant at South Bay Social Services. Maybe Phoebe could be open a clinic and offer therapy to people and or maybe she could be a councilor at say a high school. She'd have the experience to help troubled kids. And if Phoebe had a relationship after Cole, I'd let it be Drake in S7, if she had nobody during Season 5 and 6. Especially, if Seven Year Witch is the first time we didn't see Cole since he died in S4. Oh, Katie! I totally ADORE your ideas for Phoebe - you should find a thread in HER board and post these! These ideas would make a heckova great fanfic - OR as part of Classic Charmed, Done Our Way! Thanks Es, I'm going to start a thread for this right now, and these would sure make one great fanfic or part of Classic Charmed, Done Our Way!
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Post by goldeneye049 on May 9, 2021 12:42:59 GMT -5
I remember the first time I saw the episode with Paige and she used orb telekinesis, I was so disappointed. Still, I had no idea what was going to happen next and the importance of the whitelighters, but I really liked the telekinesis which was violent. This scene in the church made me realize that the power of three was truly buried. I think it was an idea to refresh the series and clearly forget about prue. But why the hell does Chris use telekinesis while Wyatt orb telekinesis? So I prefer Chris's powers.
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Post by goldeneye049 on May 9, 2021 14:54:34 GMT -5
OH, please don't misunderstand me! Paige is my favorite sister of the second set, especially in Season Four and Eight, the way Phoebs is my favorite of the first set until she meets Cole, the real reason why I don't like Cole - her meeting him ended up ruining her, something that I don't think would've happened in the real Charmedverse with Prue alive, since when she'd realized that Cole was evil, her sisters would've believed her and they would've found out about the infection of the Source's powers and been able to help him long before Phoebe became the Queen of the Underworld. In the alternate universe spin-off, Paige is both a living whitelighter and a Charmed One, because as a living whitelighter, she was able to move things with her mind, and Patty was her mother so she's a Warren. Despite what Piper and Phoebe said, her power was not a witch one or a hybrid one - if it was, Chris would've had the same one. Chris was a witch with a single whitelighter power, that to orb, and a single Warren power, moving things with his mind; Paige had all of the whitelighter powers, making her a living whitelighter who could cast spells and make potions, but not a witch, even though she *is* a Charmed One who can help cast Power of Three spells. Repeat: Paige *is* a Charmed One - we've never said she wasn't - she's just not a prophesied Charmed One, the reason why the first set was more powerful and would've been much more powerful had Prue not died - no way the first set would've had to call on the Warren matriarchs to vanquish the Source - which is also the reason why Paige only had whitelighter powers which never developed into anything stronger, especially when empathy would've made more sense for her as a whitelighter than it did for Phoebe. Phoebe getting a power that had nothing to do with seeing the future no matter how badly you twist it shows that Melinda Warren's prophecy was no longer in effect. In the alternate-universe spin-off (S4-8), THE JENKINSES are the most powerful witches. Had they had a third sister and been able to access the Power of Three, they would've blown the two Halliwells plus one Matthews out of the water, while the first set - who by that point would've had the powers we saw in "Morality Bites" - would've blown *those three* out. They would've been the Ultimate Power, not the Jenkinses. That is all that we are saying. Paige is a Charmed Ones, but not a prophesied Charmed One because the prophecy and the Charmed Ones' destiny to protect innocents died with Prue. Even though the second set can access the Power of Three, as the Power of Three, they aren't as powerful as the prophesied Charmed Ones - Prue, Piper and Phoebe - not when they had to call on the Warren matriarchs to vanquish the Source or cheat by using Prue's astral projection to defeath Zankou or take in the Hollow to offset the Hollow in the Jenkinses. All of these battles show how unpowerful the second set was, because that was now their destiny - to *not* be the most powerful witches who ever lived. As Prue actually said in the comics, "How else do you think that little blonde and her sister were such a threat to the Charmed Ones? Ultimate Power? My a$$!" Amen. The true Ultimate Power should've been the first set of Charmed Ones, but they were never able to fulfill that prophecy - and neither did the second set because they couldn't - they could only fulfill their own destiny - destroying the Source - twice - and when they agreed to continue their destiny, they set up their family to have to battle demons rather than protect innocents forever. I definitely prefer the real Charmed, which is why I'll never get the S4-8 DVDs. I had never looked for the explanation that the first set was more powerful because it was the Charmed one prophecy. So that explains Paige's powers. I would like to understand why the prophecy was broken. Is it an accident because with Phoebe being in hell, the sisters are technically protected by the power of two. Or so Prue used her powers on the innocent, Piper dislikes her fate and married a whitelighter, Phoebe goes to hell to save a demon and the lesson learned in morality bites has totally failed. Bring back Prue would be impossible for lack of interest. Just as if Prue had used her power to save Phoebe, the ancients would let Phoebe burn in the morality bites episode.
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Post by Aaeiyn on Mar 22, 2023 16:11:01 GMT -5
If I'm gonna give ANY credibility to S5E12 "Centennial Charmed" is that Paige was pretty essential to breaking up Phoebe & Cole, officially and for good 🤷♀️ Otherwise, that episode can die in a fire 😒
Anyway, I really adore her sisterly relationship with Phoebe. Most of their sisterhood (IMO, OFC) is in S6-S7 (which is why they're both ranked really high, for me, in my preferred seasons list, FYI). There's some of it, in S5, and Paige really helped out Phoebe during the return of Cole and kept Phoebe's head on her shoulders. Not to mention, Paige was pretty helpful in Piper's pregnancy, too.
It's a tough tie between Phoebe & Paige, for me, as "top sisters", for me. They both (in their own right) tend to "bend the rules" a little bit and remain their own individuals, as much as either Prue and/or Piper tried to boss around their sisters. Both, in their own way, stuck to their guns and did what they felt was right and true.
While, the Prue Era has some of the better episodes, I prefer the Paige Era sisterhood. The Paige Era felt more unified, whereas the Prue Era felt like too much bossing around, from Prue, and I'm like...OK, where's the "sisterhood"? The Paige Ere feels more "sisterly", to me.
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Post by Aaeiyn on Mar 25, 2024 16:09:55 GMT -5
I don't want to make an entire thread (yet, anyway) talking about Paige's abilities because I'm not done, yet. I'm choosing this thread as a "placeholder", for now, on my "rough draft"/"rough estimate" on Paige's TK-Orbing ability. This does NOT differentiate between the items ONLY going to Paige vs Paige ACTUALLY moving things (similar to Prue). For example, when Paige calls for the candle in S4E2 "Charmed Again, Pt 2", and it goes directly to her vs the lamp ACTUALLY be TK'd around, in the same episode. Just wanted to make that clear.
S4-S8 rough estimate/count of how often Paige TK-Orbs. Yes, I was surprised, myself, that S8 is the BEST season, to see Paige TK-Orb, throughout the season.
S4 = 22 S5 = 13 S6 = 21 S7 = 16 S8 = 25
S6E22 "It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World, Pt 1" x5 S4E3 "Hell Hath No Fury" x4 S4E4 "Enter the Demon" x4 S4E5 "Size Matters" x3 S6E3 "Forget Me, Not" x3 S6E8 "Sword & the City" x3 S8E6 "Kill Billie: Vol I" x3 S8E9 "Hulkus Pocus" x3 S8E13 "Repo Manor" x3 S4E9 "Muse to My Ears" x2 S4E15 "Marry-Go-Round" x2 S5E2 "A Witch's Tail, Pt 2" x2 S5E5 "Witches in Tights" x2 S5E17 "Lucky Charmed" x2 S6E6 "My Three Witches" x2 S6E15 "I Dream of Phoebe" x2 S6E18 "Spin City" x2 S7E2 "The Bare Witch Project" x2 S7E6 "Once in a Blue Moon" x2 S7E8 "Charmed Noir" x2 S7E18 "Little Box of Horrors" x2 S8E3 "Run, Piper, Run" x2 S8E7 "The Lost Picture Show" x2 S8E8 "Battle of the Hexes" x2 S8E15 "The Last Temptation of Christy" x2 S8E22 "Forever Charmed" x2 S4E2 "Charmed Again, Pt 2" x1 S4E6 "A Knight to Remember" x1 S4E12 "Lost & Bound" x1 S4E14 "The Three Faces of Phoebe" x1 S4E19 "We're off to See the Wizard" x1 S4E20 "Long Live the Queen" x1 S4E21 "Womb Raider" x1 S5E1 "A Witch's Tail, Pt 1" x1 S5E4 "Siren Song" x1 S5E7 "Sympathy for the Demon" x1 S5E8 "Witch in Time" x1 S5E10 "Y Tu Mummy Tambien" x1 S5E12 "Centennial Charmed" x1 S5E14 "Sand Francisco Dreamin'" x1 S6E5 "Love's a Witch" x1 S6E9 "Little Monsters" x1 S6E16 "The Courtship of Wyatt's Father" x1 S6E17 "Hyde School Reunion" x1 S6E19 "Crimes & Witch Demeanors" x1 S6E20 "A Wrong Day's Journey Into Right" x1 S7E1 "A Call to Arms" x1 S7E3 "Cheaper by the Coven" x1 S7E4 "Charrrmed!" x1 S7E5 "Styx Feet Under" x1 S7E9 "There's Something About Leo" x1 S7E16 "The Seven Year Witch" x1 S7E19 "Freaky Phoebe" x1 S8E2 "Malice in Wonderland" x1 S8E12 "Payback's a Witch" x1 S8E16 "Engaged & Confused" x1 S8E19 "The Jung & the Restless" x1 S8E20 "Gone with the Witches" x1 S8E21 "Kill Billie: Vol II" x1
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Post by Aaeiyn on Mar 25, 2024 16:18:46 GMT -5
She's (honestly) travel orbed more than she TK-Orbed. So, it's true when fans say Paige is the "cosmic taxi". Even when she confessed to Nate, with the Truth spell, she used her traveling orb ability rather than her TK-Orbing ability, in S5E21 "Necromancing the Stone".
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Post by Aaeiyn on Apr 26, 2024 22:08:32 GMT -5
Moving this conversation over here:There are moments Paige is ACTUALLY TKing despite saying verbal commands. There's even parts where she head nods, as well (despite doing verbal commands) like for the shillelagh in S6E18 "Spin City" and the tripod in S8E7 "The Lost Picture Show"
As mentioned, the ONLY time Paige does NOT verbalize but STILL TKs is in S6E8 "Sword & the City" with the sword in the stone. I'll have to grab that clip, soon 'cause it's the ONLY time LOL
And, as for Chris, again, only his "evil" self in the S6 finale did the TK-Orb thing. Along with "good" Leo doing the same thing, for some reason...those are the ONLY times other half-whitelighter/half-witch operated similarly to Paige but then Leo did the same thing so w/e LOL
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Post by missjessica on Apr 27, 2024 18:15:56 GMT -5
Yeah the show had zero rules when it came to powers. Whatever works for the story.
Paige is more whitelighter than witch (and it makes me so sad, because I LOVE her as a character). It hurts me so much to admit that I do see why so many fans (not all) think she is nothing more than a spare just so Piper and Phoebe have a third sister for the Power of Three (She's more than that, but I'm saying spare in terms of her use for powers, because she's a great character with storylines, just her witch side is so they have the Po3). Because nothing else about her is witch, she's just a whitelighter.
The show I think had no game plan for how powers work and all. It's whatever is cool, works for the plot, and had no show bible for the rules half the time.
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Aaeiyn
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Post by Aaeiyn on Apr 30, 2024 15:00:25 GMT -5
Bringing what I said in my video clips thread, over here: Here's a more updated version of Paige actually TKing: Time-Stamps (0:00 - 0:02) S4E15 "Marry-Go-Round" (0:03 - 0:06) S5E7 "Sympathy for the Demon" (0:07 - 0:12) S6E5 "Love's a Witch" (0:13 - 0:27) S6E6 "My Three Witches" (0:28 - 0:30) S6E8 "Sword & the City" (0:31 - 0:39) S6E9 "Little Monsters" (0:40 - 0:43) S6E16 "The Courtship of Wyatt's Father" (0:44 - 0:50) S6E17 "Hyde School Reunion" (0:51 - 0:55) S6E20 "A Wrong Day's Journey Into Right" (0:56 - 0:59) S6E22 "It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World, Pt 1" (1:00 - 1:02) S7E1 "A Call to Arms" (1:03 - 1:10) S7E2 "The Bare Witch Project" (1:11 - 1:17) S7E3 "Cheaper by the Coven" (1:18 - 1:22) S7E5 "Styx Feet Under" (1:23 - 1:28) S7E10 "Witchness Protection" (1:29 - 1:36) S7E16 "The Seven Year Witch" (1:37 - 1:41) S7E19 "Freaky Phoebe" (1:42 - 1:48) S8E2 "Malice in Wonderland" (1:49 - 1:55) S8E3 "Run, Piper, Run" (1:56 - 2:00) S8E7 "The Lost Picture Show" (2:01 - 2:03) S8E8 "Battle of the Hexes" (2:04 - 2:17) S8E9 "Hulkus Pocus" (2:18 - 2:20) S8E15 "The Last Temptation of Christy" (2:21 - 2:26) S8E16 "Engaged & Confused" (2:27 - 2:29) S8E19 "The Jung & the Restless" (2:30 - 2:34) S8E20 "Gone with the Witches" (2:35 - 2:37) S8E21 "Kill Billie: Vol II" (2:38 - 2:42) S8E22 "Forever Charmed" As you can see, most of it is in S6-S8. S4-S5 stuck with things going directly to Paige vs Paige controlling where things are going. I did NOT include Paige glamoured as Hope (S7E18 "Little Box of Horrors") nor Billie (S8E12 "Payback's a Witch"), or anything similar. I wanted to show authentic Paige being herself, even if she does appear kinda mean to Billie (S8E2 "Malice in Wonderland") and/or Agent Murphy (S8E9 "Hulkus Pocus"). I wanted to display Paige as her real self, and some of those instances include her being kinda mean, unfortunately, but it's really her! LOL
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