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Post by Chrisaholic on Jul 17, 2015 7:10:05 GMT -5
I love the end of S6 more than the rest, to be honest. I always cry when Chris dies. Yeah, and Phoebe said many stupid things during that season and here I thought she was smart!  No way in hell she is. I'm curious about your S7 as well. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 17, 2015 10:37:28 GMT -5
As always, totally enjoyed this - and REALLY agreed with your title...although your comments made it fly by - SOOOO much better than having to watch the thing!!!
Now I'm *very* anxious to read your review of "A Call to Arms".
By the way, that stupid electric power is what convinced me that these Elders were *not* the same ones from before - these were ones who like Leo were risen to Elderhood after the Titan massacre (thanks for not warning Leo about the Titans, Chris! Although it makes sense - you obviously have heard your mother's stories regarding them all your life so you hate them as much as she does for the same selfish, self-centered reasons - although unlike the S1-S2 versions, thanks to you, this version DESERVED her disdain!) and just like him and his older son, his powers went straight to their head. During S7, with the single exception of Sandra, they're more demonic than the demons, with the demons (with the exception of Kyra and Zankou) are simply comedic.
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Post by Sadrick on Jul 17, 2015 11:25:46 GMT -5
Leo suddenly has lightning bolts, because Elders are pacifists ya know? To be fair, Gideon did actually use this power earlier, but I have to wonder why he doesn’t put up more of a fight in that case. Well you could argue that the whole "vow of pacifism" quality of whitelighters was retconned as early back when Natalie began tossing energy balls to help train the sisters during S3. Theoretically, couldn't that bit of thermokinesis Leo used to heat up Phoebe's tea induce Hyperpyrexia if administered to a human? You have yet another potential killing tool available to these guardian angels, and that was introduced way back in Season 1. I suspect Gideon's inability to put up a resistance may have stemmed partly from his injuries, as well as shock at Leo's sudden appearance and perhaps a bit of hesitation to hurt his old friend/student. Were he not suffering from such handicaps then he may have overpowered Leo since he was described as being one of the most powerful Elders. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 11:29:50 GMT -5
Another change that happened after Kern seized power.
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Post by Astral Vision on Jul 17, 2015 14:29:19 GMT -5
Well you could argue that the whole "vow of pacifism" quality of whitelighters was retconned as early back when Natalie began tossing energy balls to help train the sisters during S3. The energy ball illusion was actually used by Leo first in Power Outage when the sisters were practicing their attack technique against Leo-glamoured-as-Belthazor. |
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Post by cyma on Jul 17, 2015 15:10:19 GMT -5
 First of all....Wowy the thread is now 7 pages  Anyways, I totally forgot this episode existed where Piper was with a man(demon?) other than Leo, Dan or Greg. Is there a p3nathan special review of the Excalibur episode in these seven long pages somewhere?  |
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Post by Chrisaholic on Jul 17, 2015 15:15:15 GMT -5
This is "Sword and the City". Mordaunt, played by Edward Atterton (played King Arthur in "The Mists of Avalon"), was after Excalibur and future King Wyatt.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 17:27:02 GMT -5
Yeah, another British villain. Brad, the revolution was over two centuries ago, the world has moved on, so should you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 18:28:57 GMT -5
Yeah, another British villain. Brad, the revolution was over two centuries ago, the world has moved on, so should you. The British villain seems to be a long-time Hollywood trope. No surprise that Charmed bought into it.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 18:53:49 GMT -5
By the way, that stupid electric power is what convinced me that these Elders were *not* the same ones from before - these were ones who like Leo were risen to Elderhood after the Titan massacre That's a very good theory that I will be adding to my headcanon while I watch season 7 for sure.  |
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Post by ljones on Jul 17, 2015 21:08:08 GMT -5
If Leo had been a Halliwell, I doubt that Gideon's death would have been mentioned in the next season.
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Post by Sadrick on Jul 17, 2015 21:38:03 GMT -5
Well you could argue that the whole "vow of pacifism" quality of whitelighters was retconned as early back when Natalie began tossing energy balls to help train the sisters during S3. The energy ball illusion was actually used by Leo first in Power Outage when the sisters were practicing their attack technique against Leo-glamoured-as-Belthazor. Illusion? So the energy balls used by both characters were merely projections of their mind? I looked over the wiki to see what the exact ability was, and apparently it's classified as Photokinesis. Leo used it to create sparkling makeshift lights during his wedding. It's not an offensive power, which leaves just Thermokinesis as the only potential offensive force for Whitelighters back in the first few seasons. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 17, 2015 22:26:27 GMT -5
By the way, that stupid electric power is what convinced me that these Elders were *not* the same ones from before - these were ones who like Leo were risen to Elderhood after the Titan massacre That's a very good theory that I will be adding to my headcanon while I watch season 7 for sure. YAY! Definitely curious to see how that theory works out for you while you're watching S7. By the way, forgot to add Drake to the demons who weren't demonic - well, unless you're watching that stupid Robin Hood episode, which I would do without.. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 17, 2015 22:28:36 GMT -5
The energy ball illusion was actually used by Leo first in Power Outage when the sisters were practicing their attack technique against Leo-glamoured-as-Belthazor. Illusion? So the energy balls used by both characters were merely projections of their mind? I looked over the wiki to see what the exact ability was, and apparently it's classified as Photokinesis. Leo used it to create sparkling makeshift lights during his wedding. It's not an offensive power, which leaves just Thermokinesis as the only potential offensive force for Whitelighters back in the first few seasons. You mean you really trust the Charmed Wiki and all their stupid made-up names for powers??? *scratches head in amazement.* They're the same ones who act as if all of their head-canon is actually canon, including Morality Bite's Melinda is the same as Forever Charmed Melinda when it's so obvious that Melinda in that timeline is Wyatt in the S4-S8 one. |
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Post by Sadrick on Jul 17, 2015 23:22:29 GMT -5
Illusion? So the energy balls used by both characters were merely projections of their mind? I looked over the wiki to see what the exact ability was, and apparently it's classified as Photokinesis. Leo used it to create sparkling makeshift lights during his wedding. It's not an offensive power, which leaves just Thermokinesis as the only potential offensive force for Whitelighters back in the first few seasons. You mean you really trust the Charmed Wiki and all their stupid made-up names for powers??? *scratches head in amazement.* They're the same ones who act as if all of their head-canon is actually canon, including Morality Bite's Melinda is the same as Forever Charmed Melinda when it's so obvious that Melinda in that timeline is Wyatt in the S4-S8 one. The information I looked up was more technical based than literary. Besides, Photokinesis, or the ability to manipulate light, is sort of a universalist power that can be found in many shows and comics that revolve around the supernatural or extreme. |
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Post by adzpower on Jul 18, 2015 4:34:23 GMT -5
Sword and the City, God I hated that episode, Lord only knows why its one of Holly's favorites.
Some stupid sword and a British guy who she's known for all of 10 minutes gets her to turn her back on her sisters, order them dead and forget all about her son. Smooth writing Kern.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 18, 2015 6:43:40 GMT -5
Sword and the City, God I hated that episode, Lord only knows why its one of Holly's favorites. Some stupid sword and a British guy who she's known for all of 10 minutes gets her to turn her back on her sisters, order them dead and forget all about her son. Smooth writing Kern. Holly said it was her favorite because she liked playing with the sword and also because that's when she found out she was pregnant. So that's also when Chris lasted for more than eight episodes.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 10:20:08 GMT -5
If Leo had been a Halliwell, I doubt that Gideon's death would have been mentioned in the next season. Definitely. I don't doubt for a moment that if had been one of them, it would've been shrugged off, ala Rick Gittridge, immediately. Illusion? So the energy balls used by both characters were merely projections of their mind? I looked over the wiki to see what the exact ability was, and apparently it's classified as Photokinesis. Leo used it to create sparkling makeshift lights during his wedding. It's not an offensive power, which leaves just Thermokinesis as the only potential offensive force for Whitelighters back in the first few seasons. You mean you really trust the Charmed Wiki and all their stupid made-up names for powers??? *scratches head in amazement.* They're the same ones who act as if all of their head-canon is actually canon, including Morality Bite's Melinda is the same as Forever Charmed Melinda when it's so obvious that Melinda in that timeline is Wyatt in the S4-S8 one. I know it's fan-w**king, but I always just thought of it as a part of glamouring. I mean a glamour is an illusion anyway right? So if the energy balls can't do any actual damage, I think it could just be part of that illusion. Same for when demons glamoured and did a teleportation effect that was different to their own, again... part of the illusion/glamour. |
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Post by Astral Vision on Jul 18, 2015 11:43:24 GMT -5
Illusion? So the energy balls used by both characters were merely projections of their mind? I looked over the wiki to see what the exact ability was, and apparently it's classified as Photokinesis. Leo used it to create sparkling makeshift lights during his wedding. It's not an offensive power, which leaves just Thermokinesis as the only potential offensive force for Whitelighters back in the first few seasons. I guess it could also be suggested that his non-energy balls are actually part of that thermal tea heating abilities, but like P3Nathan, I've always assumed his non-energy balls are a part of the glamour. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 11:51:36 GMT -5
Of course, the main difference is that Gideon, being an Elder, was much more powerful than Rick was. Take away Rick's gun, which Paige should have done by orbing, and you've got him beaten.
Gideon with his Elder powers, was a much more dangerous opponent.
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No way in hell she is. 
Anyways, I totally forgot this episode existed where Piper was with a man(demon?) other than Leo, Dan or Greg. Is there a p3nathan special review of the Excalibur episode in these seven long pages somewhere? 
