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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 14:35:17 GMT -5
Pandora the Explorer A.k.a- Little Box of Horrors
We open in a not so dark alley. Two women (Nina and Katya) fight over a box. Katya, who has fabulous hair by the way, ever so helpfully informs us that Nina is a “guardian”... not one of the demons from season 3, not one of the angels from this season; a different kind of guardian.
Nina blasts Katya back with some magic, but Katya saves herself from crashing by using the power that is too expensive for Phoebe to have. They brawl with daggers and one of them is stabbed, but which one? The box disappears.
Meanwhile at the Manor Paige has a searing dentist drill type noise ringing in her ear. She whacks Phoebe in the face when she says it might be psychosomatic, but not nearly hard enough for my liking. Eh, okay, I’m being harsh; Phoebe is actually alright this episode.
Leo: Uh, I think the terrible twos have begun. Phoebe: Oh, well, magical boys will be magical boys.
Yeah just shrug it off guys. At least it’s not a dragon or a homicidal doppelganger this time, right?
Leo thinks the noise is Paige’s “whitelighter powers coming on”, because apparently they’ve been off up until now? What do they call orbing, sensing and all the other stuff she barely uses for anything useful? Anyway, Paige wants nothing to do with the Elders.
Nina swarms in and asks for Phoebe’s help finding Pandora’s Box.
Piper: Well, I guess since Excalibur is real, I don’t know why it’d be a surprise that Pandora’s Box isn’t as well.
I always figured that the sin box from season 3 and The Hollow were loosely based on Pandora’s Box.
Phoebe: Look, just because you guys have completely different parenting styles doesn’t mean you can take it out on me. I’m just the sister.
What different styles? It seems to me they’ve had the exact same style since Wyatt was born. I.e.: shrug everything off and do nothing about anything.
Nina describes the guardians.
Nina: Like you, we’re chosen beings, part of a magical lineage, one in which every generation a girl is born, meant to guard Pandora’s Box.
Into every generation a guardian is born. She alone will stand against the vampires, the demons and the forces of darkness.
We’re introduced to Hope, who I think might be Canadian, just listening to how she pronounces her “o”s. We also meet her friend Darcy. Hope finds the NotHollow on her bed, lifts the lid slightly and a bit of the black dust escapes through an air vent.
Sandra exhibits a considerable amount of patience with Paige as she explains why Paige is experiencing the heavenly dentist drill.
Sandra: We sensed a great threat, one which we have not yet been able to isolate. That is why we need every Whitelighter to be vigilant.
At first I thought she meant Zankou, but it turns out she means the box. I never liked the idea of Paige being a whitelighter, especially since I always thought it was unfair to the charges having her balance Charmed One stuff with helping them... but at least they’ve got her doing something I guess.
Wyatt continues to play around with his magic... oh I forgot to quote Phoebe earlier.
Phoebe: Piper, you can’t deny who he is, through the good, the bad, and the annoying.
Later on, Hope orbs right in front of Hope and I’m also reminded of him doing the orb-eyes thing at all of Piper’s dates last season. So when all magic is exposed to the mortal world because the kid has no boundaries enforced, I guess Phoebe will just say “Meh, can’t deny who he is”. Maybe that’s why they get exposed so much: “Can’t deny who we are yo!”
So it turns out Nina is dead and Katya took her form. She now has the NotHollow.
Nina: Pandora’s box, a gift the Gods gave to Prometheus
You know box is a mistranslation and it was actually meant to be a pithos, which is essentially a large jar? Bit o’ trivia for the kids at home for ya there. I guess Pandora’s Jar doesn’t have quite the same ring to it.
Sandra sends Phoebe to Piper, but she’s already done battle with Katya who has escaped with the box.
Paige gets stuck in an elevator. Good job she overcame her claustrophobia... not that I believe the writers would’ve remembered it even if she hadn’t.
Don Swayze, the late Patrick Swayze’s younger brother, is playing Katya’s minion and he attempts to open the box with an energy ball.
Turns out Katya wants to impress Zankou by opening the NotHollow/NotAJar.
Phoebe, Piper and Leo explain everything to Hope, but she freaks a little when Wyatt orbs in and out. Phoebe tries to stop her from leaving but gets blasted across the room by Hope accidentally.
Paige is in the elevator with an asthmatic girl.
Daughter: I have asthma. Paige: Fantastic. But I bet you have an inhaler in that pretty little purse of yours, right? Daughter: My mommy has it.
Well a lot of good that is! What’s she supposed to do, just make sure she only has an asthma attack when her mother is around? Sure, no problem.
Katya does a very good job at manipulating Hope and very nearly convinces her to open the box, but then Hope suddenly gets some nerve and refuses. This forces Katya’s hand and she reveals that she has Darcy.
A guy in the elevator gets electrocuted, which makes the girl panic more. Paige gets one guy to give CPR while she tells another woman to sing to the girl to try and calm her. It starts back up and everyone is fine.
Hope opens the box and a huge mess of screeching black stuff bursts out. A very pleased Katya attempts to kill her, but Hope deflects her dagger.
Katya pretends to be Darcy, but the sisters figure it out and send in Paige glamoured as hope. Paige vanquishes Katya with a potion and I can’t help but feel it’s a bit anticlimactic, but then that’s often the case with simple potion vanquishes :/
The real Darcy, Piper and Phoebe give Hope a pep talk and she puts all of the NotHollow back in the NotAJar.
Paige speaks to Elder Sandra on the bridge.
Sandra: You’re a natural, Paige. Everything you've been and done in your life has been preparing you to be a Whitelighter.
Oh pull the other one Sandra! Please writers, don’t insult me by actually expecting me to believe you had any type of plan for Paige.
Finally, we’re with Piper, Leo and the kids. Basically, Wyatt hit himself in the head trying to orb a toy and they establish that they need to teach him when and how to use his powers, but we all know there’s going to be zero follow through on this, so why am I even bothering typing this up.
Leo: Well, uh, Chris here is going to be coming into his powers shortly. It could get a little nuts around here.
Chris? Oh yeah, that other baby. Pfft, yeah okay, whatever you say Leo.
Next up: Phoebe’s outsides match her insides and Paige is a horrible whitelighter.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 30, 2015 16:20:59 GMT -5
Pandora the Explorer A.k.a- Little Box of HorrorsWe open in a not so dark alley. Two women (Nina and Katya) fight over a box. Katya, who has fabulous hair by the way, ever so helpfully informs us that Nina is a “guardian”... not one of the demons from season 3, not one of the angels from this season; a different kind of guardian. Nina blasts Katya back with some magic, but Katya saves herself from crashing by using the power that is too expensive for Phoebe to have. They brawl with daggers and one of them is stabbed, but which one? The box disappears. Meanwhile at the Manor Paige has a searing dentist drill type noise ringing in her ear. She whacks Phoebe in the face when she says it might be psychosomatic, but not nearly hard enough for my liking. Eh, okay, I’m being harsh; Phoebe is actually alright this episode. Leo: Uh, I think the terrible twos have begun. Phoebe: Oh, well, magical boys will be magical boys.
Yeah just shrug it off guys. At least it’s not a dragon or a homicidal doppelganger this time, right? Leo thinks the noise is Paige’s “whitelighter powers coming on”, because apparently they’ve been off up until now? What do they call orbing, sensing and all the other stuff she barely uses for anything useful? Anyway, Paige wants nothing to do with the Elders. Nina swarms in and asks for Phoebe’s help finding Pandora’s Box. Piper: Well, I guess since Excalibur is real, I don’t know why it’d be a surprise that Pandora’s Box isn’t as well.I always figured that the sin box from season 3 and The Hollow were loosely based on Pandora’s Box. Phoebe: Look, just because you guys have completely different parenting styles doesn’t mean you can take it out on me. I’m just the sister.
What different styles? It seems to me they’ve had the exact same style since Wyatt was born. I.e.: shrug everything off and do nothing about anything. Nina describes the guardians. Nina: Like you, we’re chosen beings, part of a magical lineage, one in which every generation a girl is born, meant to guard Pandora’s Box.
Into every generation a guardian is born. She alone will stand against the vampires, the demons and the forces of darkness. We’re introduced to Hope, who I think might be Canadian, just listening to how she pronounces her “o”s. We also meet her friend Darcy. Hope finds the NotHollow on her bed, lifts the lid slightly and a bit of the black dust escapes through an air vent. Sandra exhibits a considerable amount of patience with Paige as she explains why Paige is experiencing the heavenly dentist drill. Sandra: We sensed a great threat, one which we have not yet been able to isolate. That is why we need every Whitelighter to be vigilant.
At first I thought she meant Zankou, but it turns out she means the box. I never liked the idea of Paige being a whitelighter, especially since I always thought it was unfair to the charges having her balance Charmed One stuff with helping them... but at least they’ve got her doing something I guess. Wyatt continues to play around with his magic... oh I forgot to quote Phoebe earlier. Phoebe: Piper, you can’t deny who he is, through the good, the bad, and the annoying.
Later on, Hope orbs right in front of Hope and I’m also reminded of him doing the orb-eyes thing at all of Piper’s dates last season. So when all magic is exposed to the mortal world because the kid has no boundaries enforced, I guess Phoebe will just say “Meh, can’t deny who he is”. Maybe that’s why they get exposed so much: “Can’t deny who we are yo!” So it turns out Nina is dead and Katya took her form. She now has the NotHollow. Nina: Pandora’s box, a gift the Gods gave to Prometheus
You know box is a mistranslation and it was actually meant to be a pithos, which is essentially a large jar? Bit o’ trivia for the kids at home for ya there. I guess Pandora’s Jar doesn’t have quite the same ring to it. Sandra sends Phoebe to Piper, but she’s already done battle with Katya who has escaped with the box. Paige gets stuck in an elevator. Good job she overcame her claustrophobia... not that I believe the writers would’ve remembered it even if she hadn’t. Don Swayze, the late Patrick Swayze’s younger brother, is playing Katya’s minion and he attempts to open the box with an energy ball. Turns out Katya wants to impress Zankou by opening the NotHollow/NotAJar. Phoebe, Piper and Leo explain everything to Hope, but she freaks a little when Wyatt orbs in and out. Phoebe tries to stop her from leaving but gets blasted across the room by Hope accidentally. Paige is in the elevator with an asthmatic girl. Daughter: I have asthma. Paige: Fantastic. But I bet you have an inhaler in that pretty little purse of yours, right? Daughter: My mommy has it.
Well a lot of good that is! What’s she supposed to do, just make sure she only has an asthma attack when her mother is around? Sure, no problem. Katya does a very good job at manipulating Hope and very nearly convinces her to open the box, but then Hope suddenly gets some nerve and refuses. This forces Katya’s hand and she reveals that she has Darcy. A guy in the elevator gets electrocuted, which makes the girl panic more. Paige gets one guy to give CPR while she tells another woman to sing to the girl to try and calm her. It starts back up and everyone is fine. Hope opens the box and a huge mess of screeching black stuff bursts out. A very pleased Katya attempts to kill her, but Hope deflects her dagger. Katya pretends to be Darcy, but the sisters figure it out and send in Paige glamoured as hope. Paige vanquishes Katya with a potion and I can’t help but feel it’s a bit anticlimactic, but then that’s often the case with simple potion vanquishes :/ The real Darcy, Piper and Phoebe give Hope a pep talk and she puts all of the NotHollow back in the NotAJar. Paige speaks to Elder Sandra on the bridge. Sandra: You’re a natural, Paige. Everything you've been and done in your life has been preparing you to be a Whitelighter.Oh pull the other one Sandra! Please writers, don’t insult me by actually expecting me to believe you had any type of plan for Paige. Finally, we’re with Piper, Leo and the kids. Basically, Wyatt hit himself in the head trying to orb a toy and they establish that they need to teach him when and how to use his powers, but we all know there’s going to be zero follow through on this, so why am I even bothering typing this up. Leo: Well, uh, Chris here is going to be coming into his powers shortly. It could get a little nuts around here.
Chris? Oh yeah, that other baby. Pfft, yeah okay, whatever you say Leo. Next up: Phoebe’s outsides match her insides and Paige is a horrible whitelighter. YAY! Again you were nice to one of my favorite episodes, although the idea of Paige (or Chris) being a whitelighter while still alive will always rub me the wrong way. Being a whitelighter is supposed to be a reward and a choice - not like being a witch... But this makes me more excited to see what you do with Season One and we're getting closer and closer to getting to find out! My favorite parts were NotHollow and NotaJar (and I didn't know about the mistranslation, so thanks for that!) They made me giggle. I still think that if they turned Season 9 into a TV series (or movie since none of the issues were long enough to be an episode) and it was based on Neenah in the early issues, the actress who played Katya would play Neenah. Obviously not true later on when she becomes an ancestress of the sisters (something the artist obviously didn't know - it appears he made her look more like what he thought a demoness should look like...), but....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 17:19:51 GMT -5
There's that memory wiping virus again. Didn't they also say that Pandora's Box was a myth at that point. Expect Kern writers to actually remember something from that far back, silly of course. Not exactly parents of the year. Joss Whedon's lawyer on Line One! That's right. Brooke Nevin, who played Hope, is indeed Canadian. We never saw John deLancie's Elder after Seven Year Witch (I guess he's off bugging Captain Picard or Janeway again). So we have Sandra instead. I saw that coming a mile away. Of course, why couldn't Nina's spirit have given everyone a heads up. Answer, because the episode would have ended right there and then. Another excellent review.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 6:49:51 GMT -5
YAY! Again you were nice to one of my favorite episodes, although the idea of Paige (or Chris) being a whitelighter while still alive will always rub me the wrong way. Being a whitelighter is supposed to be a reward and a choice - not like being a witch... But this makes me more excited to see what you do with Season One and we're getting closer and closer to getting to find out! My favorite parts were NotHollow and NotaJar (and I didn't know about the mistranslation, so thanks for that! They made me giggle. I still think that if they turned Season 9 into a TV series (or movie since none of the issues were long enough to be an episode) and it was based on Neenah in the early issues, the actress who played Katya would play Neenah. Obviously not true later on when she becomes an ancestress of the sisters (something the artist obviously didn't know - it appears he made her look more like what he thought a demoness should look like...), but.... Yeah I actually quite enjoyed this one and I think we have some good episodes coming up too, so I'm feeling rather generous haha. I completely agree about living whitelighters, I never liked the idea. I daresay I'll have a lot more to say about that next episode when Paige gets her charge. Ooh, I could picture Katya as Neena. I had a couple of actresses in mind for her (Audra McDonald or Angela Bassett were my two main ones), but I actually like that a lot. That's right. Brooke Nevin, who played Hope, is indeed Canadian. Ah, thought say. Thanks.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 31, 2015 7:23:49 GMT -5
YAY! Again you were nice to one of my favorite episodes, although the idea of Paige (or Chris) being a whitelighter while still alive will always rub me the wrong way. Being a whitelighter is supposed to be a reward and a choice - not like being a witch... But this makes me more excited to see what you do with Season One and we're getting closer and closer to getting to find out! My favorite parts were NotHollow and NotaJar (and I didn't know about the mistranslation, so thanks for that! They made me giggle. I still think that if they turned Season 9 into a TV series (or movie since none of the issues were long enough to be an episode) and it was based on Neenah in the early issues, the actress who played Katya would play Neenah. Obviously not true later on when she becomes an ancestress of the sisters (something the artist obviously didn't know - it appears he made her look more like what he thought a demoness should look like...), but.... Yeah I actually quite enjoyed this one and I think we have some good episodes coming up too, so I'm feeling rather generous haha. I completely agree about living whitelighters, I never liked the idea. I daresay I'll have a lot more to say about that next episode when Paige gets her charge. Hehehehe! Can't wait! Well, as I said, I don't think she would've worked once she was introduced as the sisters' ancestress, but as early Neenah (when it was still spelled that way...), I'm glad you agree.
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Post by yinsoul on Aug 31, 2015 7:25:49 GMT -5
Leo: Uh, I think the terrible twos have begun. Phoebe: Oh, well, magical boys will be magical boys.
Yeah just shrug it off guys. At least it’s not a dragon or a homicidal doppelganger this time, right? ---- Finally, we’re with Piper, Leo and the kids. Basically, Wyatt hit himself in the head trying to orb a toy and they establish that they need to teach him when and how to use his powers, but we all know there’s going to be zero follow through on this, so why am I even bothering typing this up. Piper's absolute refusal to do something about her hyperpowerful son, especially after what's happened already, all the while pining for normality makes me want to twist myself into a knot out of pure agony. Why. I get not wanting to stifle the kids natural expression, and there was the fact the sisters would have grown up with theirs if it wasn't for a certain warlock, but Grams and Patty seemed well equipped to stop any magical silliness the girls would have caused. Wyatt has already proven himself quite a bit more powerful (shrinking them, messing with powers) and they only wriggled out of those situations by pure luck. What happens when Wyatt has a tantrum and summons the next round of city destroying creatures? "Oh well, boys will be boys, tee hee?" Good lord.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 31, 2015 7:30:52 GMT -5
Leo: Uh, I think the terrible twos have begun. Phoebe: Oh, well, magical boys will be magical boys.
Yeah just shrug it off guys. At least it’s not a dragon or a homicidal doppelganger this time, right? ---- Finally, we’re with Piper, Leo and the kids. Basically, Wyatt hit himself in the head trying to orb a toy and they establish that they need to teach him when and how to use his powers, but we all know there’s going to be zero follow through on this, so why am I even bothering typing this up. Piper's absolute refusal to do something about her hyperpowerful son, especially after what's happened already, all the while pining for normality makes me want to twist myself into a knot out of pure agony. Why. I get not wanting to stifle the kids natural expression, and there was the fact the sisters would have grown up with theirs if it wasn't for a certain warlock, but Grams and Patty seemed well equipped to stop any magical silliness the girls would have caused. Wyatt has already proven himself quite a bit more powerful (shrinking them, messing with powers) and they only wriggled out of those situations by pure luck. What happens when Wyatt has a tantrum and summons the next round of city destroying creatures? "Oh well, boys will be boys, tee hee?" Good lord. Agreed totally. S4-8 Piper was a crappy person - a crappy leader, a crappy witch, a crappy sister, a crappy wife and a crappy mother. For her to be so many fans' favorite character makes no sense to me at all. There's no doubt in my mind that the true "demon" who turned Wyatt evil was his mother, another one of many reasons why I think that "Forever Crap", I mean "Forever Piper", I mean "Forever Charmed" is just Piper's delusion as she dies after the "Kill Billie, Vol 2" battle. No way Wyatt's powers wouldn't go to his head as long as Piper was his mother and Leo was just a weak mortal who couldn't control him, so the idea of the Charmed Sons doing good makes no sense. I'm sure the true future is the same as Chris' original future - just no Piper, so no Charmed Ones - he's in the midst of an everlasting time loop. That flash-forward is what Piper wants, not what's realistic, just like everything in that "flash-forward".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 7:52:10 GMT -5
With you completely Yinsoul. It just happens over and over again each season and the lack of response remains the same. It's infuriating. It's like a kid constantly playing with matches or scissors, setting fire to furniture and shredding things up... and the parents just sit there and watch, thinking that if they fix the stuff the kid is destroying that that somehow solves the bigger issue.
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Yeah, I once had a favourite character named Piper, but she disappeared a long time ago. I wonder if many fans overlooked Piper's faults for Holly and were in fact more fans of Holly Marie Combs than Piper. The same way I feel many Phoebe fans overlook her issues because they loved Alyssa so much. Perhaps some struggle to separate the actor from the character... that's my theory anyway. Never a problem I've had- Can't stand Piper or Phoebe, but I like Holly and Alyssa. I like Paige, but I'm not all that fond of Rose.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Aug 31, 2015 11:04:16 GMT -5
I wonder if many fans overlooked Piper's faults for Holly and were in fact more fans of Holly Marie Combs than Piper. The same way I feel many Phoebe fans overlook her issues because they loved Alyssa so much. Perhaps some struggle to separate the actor from the character... that's my theory anyway. Never a problem I've had- Can't stand Piper or Phoebe, but I like Holly and Alyssa. I like Paige, but I'm not all that fond of Rose. Exactly p3nathan. I preferred Holly and Alyssa's acting abilities later on seasons 5-8 just not the way the sisters were written which wasn't there fault really and like you said also favoured Paige over Rose Mc Gowan to.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 12:35:22 GMT -5
Es, if you truly believe this, then Piper isn't the one having delusions, you are. Forever Charmed happened, deal with it.
Yes, I wish it didn't happen, but wishing is not going to change anything. FC, bad as it was, is forever part of Charmed canon.
If Paul Ruditis or Pat Shand altered the past to delete it, all they would be doing is writing AU fiction, a la the Charmed Extended Universe (an AU Fan Fiction series, written in 2003, where a fellow named Kenny and I pretended that Season Five never happened). Unfortunately, canon trumps AU, no matter what (Kenny and I found that out the hard way).
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 31, 2015 18:02:40 GMT -5
With you completely Yinsoul. It just happens over and over again each season and the lack of response remains the same. It's infuriating. It's like a kid constantly playing with matches or scissors, setting fire to furniture and shredding things up... and the parents just sit there and watch, thinking that if they fix the stuff the kid is destroying that that somehow solves the bigger issue. ---- Yeah, I once had a favourite character named Piper, but she disappeared a long time ago. I wonder if many fans overlooked Piper's faults for Holly and were in fact more fans of Holly Marie Combs than Piper. The same way I feel many Phoebe fans overlook her issues because they loved Alyssa so much. Perhaps some struggle to separate the actor from the character... that's my theory anyway. Never a problem I've had- Can't stand Piper or Phoebe, but I like Holly and Alyssa. I like Paige, but I'm not all that fond of Rose. I agree with you totally. I've never understood fans who mix the actor with the character - if they are good actors, that's who you'd see, not the actor. I agree with you regarding Piper, Phoebe and Paige vs Holly, Alyssa and Rose. I also like Prue, but don't like Shannen, while totally admiring her acting skills. I still think she was the most talented of the four who played Charmed Ones.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 17:57:37 GMT -5
The Good, the Bad and the Phoebe. AKA- Freaky Phoebe
Paige has been assigned a charge and already she’s complaining and trying to weasel out of it.
Leo: You can't get out of it. You're a whitelighter. Paige: I'm also, like, a chick in her twenties who'd like to have a life. I don't have time for this. Leo: You're nervous. Paige: I'm just busy.
Are you kidding me woman? Busy with what? You just gave up your job at Notwarts and even when you had your job at Notwarts you seemed to spend the majority of your time mooching about at home whining about Notwarts! Either go and beg for your social worker job back or shut the hell up!
So anyway, we meet her charge; a witch named Mitchell. He wants nothing to do with her or the Elders, which you’d think Paige could kinda empathise with, but guess not. She tries to sell herself to him; boasting about how she’s a Charmed One, a whitelighter and how she ran Notwarts for five minutes. Translation: “I can’t heal you and there’s a large possibility that I’ll be busy demon fighting when you need me; but you’re so lucky you got me and not some immortal whitelighter who has all the powers!”
Piper fight off a couple of demons in P3 and we see one of her employees was knocked out. How nice of them not to kill him; demons seem a lot more generous these days.
Sheridan turns up at the scene of the “crime”.
Inspector Sheridan: What I don't understand is why would they rob the place in the middle of the day. Before you even opened.
You mean you can’t figure out why someone might rob a place when it’s virtually empty rather than swarming with people with workers behind the cash register? Well, I’m no inspector, but gee, let me think about that.
We meet Imara. Another fun she-demon. She has a huge nose, big teeth, huge wiry hair and warts on her face... she’s glorious.
Imara wants to trade souls with one of “the beautiful Charmed Ones” and since she failed to get Piper, she’s going to settle for Phoebe. HA!
Imara: Besides, Phoebe's a celebrity ... idolized, envied. The way I deserve to be. And someday will be.
Well, I don’t know you well Imara, but you’re probably just as deserving of it as she is, if not more so.
Piper: Okay. Well, technically, you're not a real shrink. So, as I was - Phoebe: (scoffs) Excuse me? Bachelor's degree, four years.
Four years? Correct me if I’m wrong here, but she started beginning of season 2 and finished like three quarters of the way into season 3, right?
Phoebe: God, that's so weird. Demons never attack at P3.
Erm, I think Masselin and plenty of others would disagree. I could make a list, but I’m writing this pretty late.
Mitchell apparently has the power of hyper speed.
Paige is moaning to Leo some more.
Paige: So, you need an assistant?
Why? So you can ditch moaning about your charge (who you’ve met once!) and go back to constantly moaning about Notwarts? Her whining is really starting to piss me off.
Phoebe is attacked by two demons in the elevator. She remembers she can fight for the first time in ages and vanquishes one. The other however, snips a bit of her hair and shimmers off before Phoebe can stick the scissors in his temple.
Phoebe: I cannot believe they cut a piece from my hair, and I just spent $250 on a cut and color.
Is she for real? Seriously Phoebe, it wasn’t worth it. Especially since you just scrape it back into a super tight ponytail anyway. Really not liking the jet black she’s got going on either by the way.
Oh I forgot to mention this. The paper’s legal department don’t want Phoebe to be sued for giving bad advice (because as we learned in season 5, that’s a totally serious thing that happens) so they’ve gotten her a psychologist to check through her work. Said psychologist enters.
Dr. Randall: Ms. Halliwell. Hello. I'm Dr. Randall. Phoebe: Yes. I know exactly who you are. You're the guy here to ruin my column. Dr. Randall: Hmm. I sense some displaced anger.
That’s how psychologists talk you see; they just can’t have a conversation with anyone without evaluating them. God help him if he dares to look into the screaming void that is Phoebe’s mind!
Imara does the soul swap and once in Phoebe’s body, she sticks her tongue down Dr. Randall’s throat. So already she’s doing an excellent job at replicating Phoebe’s behaviour.
Piper and Leo discuss why the demon would want Phoebe’s hair. Piper guesses correctly right off the bat that it’s a soul swap; but I can tell you right now that this is where Piper’s brain will be completely switching off for the remainder of the episode.
“Phoebe” comes home and acts weird. It’s pretty much exactly what we had with that shapeshifter in “The Importance of Being Phoebe”. I.E- Demon posing as Phoebe is obvious; Piper and Leo are brain dead.
Also, throughout this episode we have a very clear view of Alyssa’s groin tattoo. Just...ew.
They keep saying that someone impersonating a sister could never work, because they know each other too well. Pfft, yeah okay, if you say so. Even if they did, they’re simpering morons these days.
Big shout out to Suzanne Krull who played Imara this episode. She does a really good job acting as Phoebe. Far better than any time the leads have had to play each other’s characters. Alyssa playing Imara pretty much does just a generic evil thing that could be anyone really, but I’m just glad she’s not doing her annoying baby voice; so no complaints.
Paige tricks Mitchell into saving her using her glamouring power. Then when he doesn’t like that, she proceeds to give up some more.
Paige: Could someone tell me why I'm trying to help this person? Paige. What? I mean it. Call the Elders and have them get another Whitelighter 'cause I'm done. I can't do it.
And with that, I’m done with her today. I’m not spending anymore time focusing on her moaning, she is driving me nuts. Paige; when I actually want to focus more on Phoebe and Piper, things are seriously bad!
“Phoebe”: I just want to look presentable, okay? 'Cause we are meeting a Councilman, for god sakes. Piper: Well, then maybe you should put on a jacket.
Heh, I admit I’m enjoying this. Although I find it rather amusing that they’re trying to make out like Imara is dressing Phoebe’s body really inappropriately, as if that’s not the norm.
Piper clearly sees that something is wrong with Phoebe, but she just ignores it I guess.
In Imara’s layer, Phoebe pretends that the souls have been re-swapped to trick the demons into freeing her.
“Phoebe” doesn’t care what Dr. Randall does with her column and THIS flashes a major red light for Piper... but again, she just decides to ignore it apparently.
Phoebe talks her way out of the cage just in time to get vanquished by her sisters and Imara. PAHAHAHA!!! Imara then very stupidly chooses to reveal herself; just when her plan was going so perfectly... and shimmers out with her minion.
Piper kicks herself for not realising and I’d like to kick her too. However there is this-
Leo: Besides, how could we have known? You know? She took over Phoebe's body to kill demons. It's what Phoebe does. Piper: No, not lately, it isn't. Not with everything going on at work with her. I should've done something. I can't believe I didn't ...
So basically, Piper is saying she should have known it wasn’t Phoebe, because Imara was actually a half decent Charmed One. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Mitchell snips a bit of Phoebe’s hair for the soul swap spell. I guess that saves Paige a job, ya know, because she’s just so busy?
Piper and Paige cast the spell to retrieve Phoebe’s soul and Imara is banished... to the wasteland I guess.
Phoebe: He's cute. Piper & Paige: She's back. Urgh, you sure we can’t have Imara back instead?
Remember at the start of this season where I said Elise had been replaced by one of Phoebe’s brainless robots? Well this scene really cements that.
Phoebe: Really? Did you fire him? Elise: He didn't leave me much choice. He, uh ... (chuckles) ... he claimed you came on to him. Phoebe: I did? Elise: Exactly. And that was just his first lie. He also said you told him he could do whatever he wanted to do with the column, that you didn't care one way or the other. Phoebe: (scoffs) Ugh. Well, he must have me confused with someone else. Elise: Which is exactly what I said when I kicked his butt out the door.
Yeah Phoebe would never aggressively come onto someone she’s just met in the office; the way you witnessed her doing to Leslie at the start of this damn season! Fired for lying? I just...I can’t... whatever!
Phoebe: That's fine by me. So are we going to be hiring someone else? Elise: I told legal we never had a problem with your column before, and until we do, back off.
And for the third time I point to "The Importance of Being Phoebe" in which Phoebe was sued and suspended.
Phoebe announces to her sisters that she’s going back to college and that will be relevant for a whopping one episode before they forget about it entirely.
We end with Sheridan who clearly knows something isn’t right about the Halliwell’s. DUN DUN. Except not really, since she’s basically where she was at when they first introduced her last season!
Next up- Future Wyatt returns with his eeeevil English accent.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 18:39:42 GMT -5
Season Four Paige would never have acted this way. Meeting her sisters was the worst thing that ever happened to the poor woman. Yeah, even Inspector Clouseau could figure that one out. Who dey? Phoebe is surely idolized, by herself, that is. Phoebe clearly flunked math. There's that memory wiping virus again. It's the Flash! Piper must really be rubbing off on her. Who writes this sh*t? Yeah, for the plot to work, they have to become a stupid as Jethro Bodine. If this is the kind of stuff poor Rose was getting, I can see why she resorted to mugging and twitching. She had literally nothing to work with. Stupid Villain Syndrome. When a demon is a better Charmed One, you know you've got big problems. Yeah, what a waist of an idea that was. Now, I never really liked Sheridan, at times she seemed to belong more to Hitler's Germany or Stalin's Russia than to modern America, but you would think they could have at least given her a first name. Nope! Kern, it's been more than two centuries. Get over it, okay.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 3, 2015 17:56:53 GMT -5
The Good, the Bad and the Phoebe. AKA- Freaky PhoebePaige has been assigned a charge and already she’s complaining and trying to weasel out of it. Leo: You can't get out of it. You're a whitelighter. Paige: I'm also, like, a chick in her twenties who'd like to have a life. I don't have time for this. Leo: You're nervous. Paige: I'm just busy. Are you kidding me woman? Busy with what? You just gave up your job at Notwarts and even when you had your job at Notwarts you seemed to spend the majority of your time mooching about at home whining about Notwarts! Either go and beg for your social worker job back or shut the hell up! So anyway, we meet her charge; a witch named Mitchell. He wants nothing to do with her or the Elders, which you’d think Paige could kinda empathise with, but guess not. She tries to sell herself to him; boasting about how she’s a Charmed One, a whitelighter and how she ran Notwarts for five minutes. Translation: “I can’t heal you and there’s a large possibility that I’ll be busy demon fighting when you need me; but you’re so lucky you got me and not some immortal whitelighter who has all the powers!” Piper fight off a couple of demons in P3 and we see one of her employees was knocked out. How nice of them not to kill him; demons seem a lot more generous these days. Sheridan turns up at the scene of the “crime”. Inspector Sheridan: What I don't understand is why would they rob the place in the middle of the day. Before you even opened.
You mean you can’t figure out why someone might rob a place when it’s virtually empty rather than swarming with people with workers behind the cash register? Well, I’m no inspector, but gee, let me think about that. We meet Imara. Another fun she-demon. She has a huge nose, big teeth, huge wiry hair and warts on her face... she’s glorious. Imara wants to trade souls with one of “the beautiful Charmed Ones” and since she failed to get Piper, she’s going to settle for Phoebe. HA! Imara: Besides, Phoebe's a celebrity ... idolized, envied. The way I deserve to be. And someday will be.Well, I don’t know you well Imara, but you’re probably just as deserving of it as she is, if not more so. Piper: Okay. Well, technically, you're not a real shrink. So, as I was - Phoebe: (scoffs) Excuse me? Bachelor's degree, four years.
Four years? Correct me if I’m wrong here, but she started beginning of season 2 and finished like three quarters of the way into season 3, right? Phoebe: God, that's so weird. Demons never attack at P3.
Erm, I think Masselin and plenty of others would disagree. I could make a list, but I’m writing this pretty late. Mitchell apparently has the power of hyper speed. Paige is moaning to Leo some more. Paige: So, you need an assistant?Why? So you can ditch moaning about your charge (who you’ve met once!) and go back to constantly moaning about Notwarts? Her whining is really starting to piss me off. Phoebe is attacked by two demons in the elevator. She remembers she can fight for the first time in ages and vanquishes one. The other however, snips a bit of her hair and shimmers off before Phoebe can stick the scissors in his temple.
Phoebe: I cannot believe they cut a piece from my hair, and I just spent $250 on a cut and color.
Is she for real? Seriously Phoebe, it wasn’t worth it. Especially since you just scrape it back into a super tight ponytail anyway. Really not liking the jet black she’s got going on either by the way. Oh I forgot to mention this. The paper’s legal department don’t want Phoebe to be sued for giving bad advice (because as we learned in season 5, that’s a totally serious thing that happens) so they’ve gotten her a psychologist to check through her work. Said psychologist enters. Dr. Randall: Ms. Halliwell. Hello. I'm Dr. Randall. Phoebe: Yes. I know exactly who you are. You're the guy here to ruin my column. Dr. Randall: Hmm. I sense some displaced anger.
That’s how psychologists talk you see; they just can’t have a conversation with anyone without evaluating them. God help him if he dares to look into the screaming void that is Phoebe’s mind! Imara does the soul swap and once in Phoebe’s body, she sticks her tongue down Dr. Randall’s throat. So already she’s doing an excellent job at replicating Phoebe’s behaviour. Piper and Leo discuss why the demon would want Phoebe’s hair. Piper guesses correctly right off the bat that it’s a soul swap; but I can tell you right now that this is where Piper’s brain will be completely switching off for the remainder of the episode. “Phoebe” comes home and acts weird. It’s pretty much exactly what we had with that shapeshifter in “The Importance of Being Phoebe”. I.E- Demon posing as Phoebe is obvious; Piper and Leo are brain dead. Also, throughout this episode we have a very clear view of Alyssa’s groin tattoo. Just...ew. They keep saying that someone impersonating a sister could never work, because they know each other too well. Pfft, yeah okay, if you say so. Even if they did, they’re simpering morons these days. Big shout out to Suzanne Krull who played Imara this episode. She does a really good job acting as Phoebe. Far better than any time the leads have had to play each other’s characters. Alyssa playing Imara pretty much does just a generic evil thing that could be anyone really, but I’m just glad she’s not doing her annoying baby voice; so no complaints. Paige tricks Mitchell into saving her using her glamouring power. Then when he doesn’t like that, she proceeds to give up some more. Paige: Could someone tell me why I'm trying to help this person? Paige. What? I mean it. Call the Elders and have them get another Whitelighter 'cause I'm done. I can't do it.And with that, I’m done with her today. I’m not spending anymore time focusing on her moaning, she is driving me nuts. Paige; when I actually want to focus more on Phoebe and Piper, things are seriously bad! “Phoebe”: I just want to look presentable, okay? 'Cause we are meeting a Councilman, for god sakes. Piper: Well, then maybe you should put on a jacket.Heh, I admit I’m enjoying this. Although I find it rather amusing that they’re trying to make out like Imara is dressing Phoebe’s body really inappropriately, as if that’s not the norm. Piper clearly sees that something is wrong with Phoebe, but she just ignores it I guess. In Imara’s layer, Phoebe pretends that the souls have been re-swapped to trick the demons into freeing her. “Phoebe” doesn’t care what Dr. Randall does with her column and THIS flashes a major red light for Piper... but again, she just decides to ignore it apparently. Phoebe talks her way out of the cage just in time to get vanquished by her sisters and Imara. PAHAHAHA!!! Imara then very stupidly chooses to reveal herself; just when her plan was going so perfectly... and shimmers out with her minion. Piper kicks herself for not realising and I’d like to kick her too. However there is this- Leo: Besides, how could we have known? You know? She took over Phoebe's body to kill demons. It's what Phoebe does. Piper: No, not lately, it isn't. Not with everything going on at work with her. I should've done something. I can't believe I didn't ...So basically, Piper is saying she should have known it wasn’t Phoebe, because Imara was actually a half decent Charmed One. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Mitchell snips a bit of Phoebe’s hair for the soul swap spell. I guess that saves Paige a job, ya know, because she’s just so busy? Piper and Paige cast the spell to retrieve Phoebe’s soul and Imara is banished... to the wasteland I guess. Phoebe: He's cute. Piper & Paige: She's back.Urgh, you sure we can’t have Imara back instead? Remember at the start of this season where I said Elise had been replaced by one of Phoebe’s brainless robots? Well this scene really cements that. Phoebe: Really? Did you fire him? Elise: He didn't leave me much choice. He, uh ... (chuckles) ... he claimed you came on to him. Phoebe: I did? Elise: Exactly. And that was just his first lie. He also said you told him he could do whatever he wanted to do with the column, that you didn't care one way or the other. Phoebe: (scoffs) Ugh. Well, he must have me confused with someone else. Elise: Which is exactly what I said when I kicked his butt out the door.Yeah Phoebe would never aggressively come onto someone she’s just met in the office; the way you witnessed her doing to Leslie at the start of this damn season! Fired for lying? I just...I can’t... whatever! Phoebe: That's fine by me. So are we going to be hiring someone else? Elise: I told legal we never had a problem with your column before, and until we do, back off.
And for the third time I point to "The Importance of Being Phoebe" in which Phoebe was sued and suspended. Phoebe announces to her sisters that she’s going back to college and that will be relevant for a whopping one episode before they forget about it entirely. We end with Sheridan who clearly knows something isn’t right about the Halliwell’s. DUN DUN. Except not really, since she’s basically where she was at when they first introduced her last season! Next up- Future Wyatt returns with his eeeevil English accent. That is really something when Paige irritates you more than Phoebe! Trying to turn her into a whitelighter when she was still alive was SUCH a mistake. I love "Imaginary Fiends" - it proves that Chris' trip to the past was a total waste of time since Wyatt would've turned evil anyway, the same way that Half-Face showing up in Season 8 proves that *HE* was the last to be possessed by the Source's essence - Cole never was.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 18:31:39 GMT -5
A swing at both Chris and Cole in one post, Es. I'm surprised you didn't toss an anti-Piper comment in there as well.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Sept 4, 2015 14:29:35 GMT -5
To review all three or four? Well, I do my very best. "The Seven Year Witch": It was nice to have Cole back. And quoting Shakespeare should have indicated that he knew Drake. He even said it, if I remember correctly. Yeah, at least Leo's entry in the BOS already helps Drake with getting Wyatt to heal his Mommy. Again, only Chris mentioned at the end. I'm glad that Leo's mortal, so that he can be there for his family. "Scry Hard": Yeah, yeah, Wyatt and all powerful and to get her children's attention, Piper shrieks?! Really, no fun, woman. I guess, it's understandable that Leo doesn't know what to do with himself and he cleans up the whole Manor. Hell, that's what he even did in the beginning - as a handyman!! We shouldn't forget that little fact. And Piper shows no gratitude. Woman, accept it! End of story! "Little Box of Horrors": Great premise and some great actors! Unfortunately, maybe the whole acting was not that good. Really, Katya, all that crap for impressing Zankou? You can do better, though you are good at manipulating people. And Leo's strange advice at the end that when Chris finally will have his powers, the house will be chaos. Well guys, you're their parents, do your job and all will be fine. "Freaky Phoebe": That was a Phoebe OD for me, though Suzanne Krull was amazing as her. And Phoebe?! When you will grow up. *sighs* And her sisters might be dumb to not realize that there had been a switch! It's happened already in the show - back in S4. And Paige overlasted with only one charge?! Really. What had Leo then done in 60 years as a whitelighter with more charges? Well, I look forward to "Imaginery Fiends". Wes Ramsey again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 16:40:37 GMT -5
"Freaky Phoebe": That was a Phoebe OD for me, though Suzanne Krull was amazing as her. Completely agree, she was definitely a highlight for me. Shame they vanquished her; she was fun and you could tell she enjoyed herself (which tends to make for the best villains) ------------------------------ Conversations with My Hairy, British Self A.K.A- Imaginary FiendsPaige is already very twitchy and I think this lasts for pretty much the whole episode. Oh joy. Paige: Preschool? Don’t you mean magic school? Piper: No, I mean preschool. We enrolled him last week, remember? Paige: You didn’t tell me that. Did you? Piper: Yes, and you said you were worried about him using magic in public. Paige: Oh. And what’d you say? Piper: I said I was worried about him having a normal life.
So all that stuff about his schooling and his safety in season 6 went out the window huh? Because bla bla, normal life, bla bla B.S. Already I’m warm with fury and we’re not even a whole minute into the damn episode. Paige apparently has a New Zealand charge by the way... and yes she is complaining. Paige: Really? Stop the jingling, already. I’ll be there as soon as I can. Charges.So as Paige’s neglected charge is presumably tortured and killed by some demon, a bad guy attacks in the attic. It looks like things could be interesting when Paige’s potion doesn’t even leave a mark, but Piper swiftly waves her hands for yet another anticlimactic vanquish. They’ve used this song after the opening credits before. Sarah Maclachlan. Like the song, just pointing it out. Paige’s theory is that Wyatt is creating the demons, but Piper makes out like this is a completely ridiculous suggestion. Piper: One! One lousy dragon. You’re gonna hold it against him for his entire life.Piper, that one lousy dragon was destroying the city, exposed magic and quite possibly seriously injured or killed someone. You’re also forgetting the recent shrinking debacle, the evil Leo doppelganger that almost got Wyatt eaten and the constant risk of exposure because you refuse to do anything about his magic... because I guess actually teaching him to use it would get in the way of your stupid normal life shtick! So anyway, Piper is right, it’s not him... but she still needs to shut up. It actually turns out that the imaginary friend Wyatt has been talking to is a demon named Vicus. I’ll be calling him Cheshire due to the weird Cheshire Cat thing he does when he shimmers. Cheshire goes back to his lair. His thing is turning magical kids to the dark side and sort of making his own army out of them I guess. So he plans to turn Wyatt evil...again, some more... seriously guys, taking the premise of a season arc then condensing and rehashing it into one filler episode? Cheshire: For us. To add his power to yours, to the Collective.Oh God, not another collective! Spare me. Do they just copy-paste whole sections of previous scripts? Phoebe’s college. She went back to college remember? Meh, I’ll take it over more of her boring office; even if it’s still all about her damn column. So all you really need to know here is that Phoebe’s professor is a big meany. Whatever. Paige: I’ve been searching through the library at magic school, and I think I found something out about these demons. Piper: And? Paige: And it seems as if their various offensive powers are traditionally associated with good magic.
Um yeah, energy balls are totally associated with good magic... in that like 95% of the demons on this show have them! Also, I take it that they’re saying that Cheshire’s minions are witches. In which case, that’d explain why Paige’s potion did nothing, but more importantly- Piper killed a witch. Cheshire is back to talk to Wyatt some more. Leo is none the wiser. What happened to that demon alarm they had in season 5/6? Too useful I guess. Piper casts the spell to hear “the inner Wyatt” and how his 20something year old self is supposed to help with that I dunno. If I was asked for insight into the psychology of my baby-self, I’d have nothing. Anyway, the spell brings future Wyatt, because time travel just happens by accident now- dunno why that Chris guy had such an issue with it. I’ll refer to future Wyatt as Wes, just bear in mind that I am talking about future Wyatt and not the actor. Wes is so vanilla it makes me queasy. Phoebe: Well, she said that he probably was talking to an imaginary friend. I mean not-not you. You know, the other you when you were…this is gonna be so confusing.Well if there’s a ball of string where your brain should be, yeah I suppose it would be. Paige moans about and neglects her charge some more. Paige: Yes, well, he can wait, because I think this is a little bit more important. Paige: Do I ever have a life in the future?Does it matter Paige? If you’re unemployed, you moan. If you’re at Notwarts, you moan. If you’re in temp jobs, you moan. If you’re a whitelighter, you moan. So to answer your question, I’m gonna guess “No”. Because whatever happens in your life, you’ll moan, moan, moan. Take a look at Piper and ask yourself seriously- “Is that who I want to turn into?” because you’re on the right track! Wes sees Cheshire. He doesn’t believe that he’s a demon, despite seeing him shimmer out in all his black leather... because according to Wes, he didn’t seem like a demon, whatever that means. I guess he grows up as bird-brained as his relatives! More of Cheshire’s minions attack and they have weird weapons like exploding metal balls and an energy whip. Despite this being a really blatant distraction, Leo leaves Wyatt alone in the middle of all this. I just... urgh! So obviously Cheshire jumps at this opportunity to get to Wyatt. Leo doesn’t even go upstairs, he’s just stood at the bottom of the staircase listening... what are you doing? You know that the demon wants your son, you idiot!!! Wes vanquishes all of Cheshire’s minions with some sort of incinerating magic blast; so I guess that’s three more dead witches. No biggy. Cheshire makes Wyatt’s teddy bear glow and as soon as Wyatt touches it, Wes instantly becomes hairier and more English. In Cheshire’s cave, Wes helps Phoebe and Paige to vanquish him by removing his invisibility. He’s making a point you see, because Phoebe and Paige thought that vanquishing him would make him good, but Cheshire’s curse still stands. Wes summons a bunch more of Cheshire’s minions to stall them while he orbs off to find himself... literally I mean, not in like a spiritual way, you understand. Wes: No orbing, Aunt Paige..Pfft. Doubt that would have been an issue Wes, but okay. So Wes gets Wyatt, to try and stop them from turning him good again. Phoebe quotes Freud like five times this episode by the way. I guess he’s the only psychologist the writers have heard of. Leo basically gives Wes a yellow crayon speech and all is well. (for those who don’t watch Buffy, that just means he made him good again by telling him he loves him) Wes’ haircut is restored, as is his American accent. Phoebe’s professor gives her an A- and does some of the Phoebe arse-kissing that has become such a staple of this show. Another ego-tron is born! But not to worry; as we won’t be seeing this professor or anything to do with Phoebe’s college after this episode anyway. Wes is about to be sent home... and it doesn’t require the Power of Three, because who cares? Wes: Aunt Phoebe, I think you should hold onto that imaginary friend’s paper of yours. Phoebe: Why? Wes: For my little cousin.Urgh, get out of here you evil little bastard! Quit feeding her damn obsession! Next up- Zombies are hungry for braaaaains. So someone should really inform them that they’re wasting their time going after the Charmed Ones. But also Zankou, so yay.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 0:17:43 GMT -5
Another great review.
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Post by Sadrick on Sept 10, 2015 1:23:33 GMT -5
Just FYI, wouldn't those kids whom "Cheshire" kidnapped be deemed warlocks after having renounced their wiccan duties and morality? I ask this because the Charmed Ones have been slaughtering people like them since the first episode.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 10, 2015 6:22:14 GMT -5
Just FYI, wouldn't those kids whom "Cheshire" kidnapped be deemed warlocks after having renounced their wiccan duties and morality? I ask this because the Charmed Ones have been slaughtering people like them since the first episode. Yep. Which is why Piper should've slaughtered Phoebe and Paige after they set Rick up to be murdered. But because they were saving her son, she wouldn't.
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