Post by Esmeralda on Sept 10, 2015 7:16:28 GMT -5
You did it to me again, P3Nathan! I really truly did just plan on reading this, do a quick review and call quits, but once more I'm laughing so hard halfway through it that I simply have to start over and comment as I go. I can't help wondering if you ever read the reviews in TWOP or read any of the 'Harmed comics (or for that matter) played the 'Harmed game that is based on both of them or if you didn't get a chance to do that, read the sorta-story I wrote based on playing that game, because, oh, is this reminding me of those!
Just give you an idea, here's the 'Harmed Ones - and if you look in the background you may see other characters you'll recognize:
So those are the Charmed Ones *I'll* be thinking of as I'm reading this....
A.K.A- Imaginary Fiends
Hehehehehe, once more love your alternate title! TheWB so could’ve used you!
And that’s what immediately made me think of the ‘Harmed version. Here’s how she’s described in the game:
And people wonder why I think Piper never should’ve had kids as long as she had powers…AND they wonder why I think the “demon” who turned Wyatt (and Chris) evil is Piper…another reason I think the Forever Charmed flash-forward is Piper’s delusion and not reality – no way her sons would become witches and not warlocks! Which is also the reason why I think the girl in the flash-forward is her daughter – no way she wouldn’t imagine herself without one without her but she has no idea if she’d name her Prudence Melinda or Melinda Prudence so therefore in her delusion she didn’t name her.
All why trying to turn a Charmed Ones into a full whitelighter was extremely stupid on the Elders’ (and Brad Kern’s) part. SHE’S NOT DEAD AND NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO DECIDE IF SHE WANTED TO BE A WHITELIGHTER OR NOT LIKE LEO DID! And people wonder why I consider S4-8 as the alternate-universe spin-off….
*yawn* And that's for the show, not your comment.
I wonder how often they did that during the last couple years – could they get away with paying less royalties that way?
Back to why a magical Piper should never have children…and why Wyatt would never not turn evil no matter how many time travel trips Chris takes..
Speaking of Piper, here’s how ‘Harmed the Game, describes her:
Perfect name for him!
Which also proves that Chris’ trip to the past was a total waste of time – Wyatt is always going to turn evil anyway.
They SO should’ve stopped this show after either Season 3 or Season 4!
So the writers actually remembered?? Should I die of shock? And here’s how ‘Harmed the Game describes her:
See why I *have* to think of that version of the Charmed Ones than the ones you were watching??? Oh, wait. Those *are* the Charmed Ones you were watching…
*yawn* (again at the show, not your comments…)
And as Sadrick points out later on, was it really a witch or a warlock? But then it doesn’t matter, since according to his definition, Paige and Phoebe are already warlocks, so I’m sure somehow she’s one, too, because I’m sure if she felt a human needed killing, she’d blast him/her without even thinking about it.
It’s probably in Baby Chris’ room…After all, how often do we see one of the set of fat fugly girl twins who played him? Thank God they found a better-looking set of girls to play him in Season Eight – although not as cute as the Simmons twins who played Wyatt!
First time one of your names really doesn’t make sense, especially when it *is* the name of the actor.
Which is why I’m going to change all of your future references to him to Vanilla. Fits *so* much better! Hope you don’t mind. I’ll make it “Vanilla” with quotes to show that it’s my name for him, not yours. So if you copy this, feel free to turn it back if you don’t like it.
No one had that trouble when we saw the younger versions in “That Seventies Episode” – Prue just had trouble with tenses, although that makes plenty of sense. I certainly would.
OH! So *that’s* why the Elders turned her into a full whitelighter without giving her the choice – if she’s going to constantly moan about her future, why not be sure she’s forced to do something good while she’s moaning since she’ll get a horrible headache if she doesn’t…maybe the Elders (and Kern) aren’t as stupid as I thought they were…
Well, if you were raised by them, wouldn’t you be?
Okay, okay. I’m always willing to admit that I’m wrong when I’m proven wrong. And it looks like Leo has as much to do with Wyatt turning evil as Piper!
Nope. Especially if they’re warlocks, just like him. How could one of Piper's sons not turn into a warlock before he's 16? You know they've both vanquished a non-magical by that point. Look how easily Chris murdered the Valkyrie. After all, I'm sure that Piper taught them that "Ends Justify the Means". That "The wrong things done for the right reason is the wrong thing" is a bunch of malarky when demons are chasing you all the time and you never know who is evil and who isn't.
ROFL!!! I’d forgotten about that. And now your alternate title makes even more sense!
And, of course, Kern wants us to think that it’s Cheshire who turned Wyatt evil…but we know better, right?
LOL, yes, we understand. Now if he was smart, he’d take his younger self and orb them both to the future so he doesn’t have to be raised by this crowd…
I love that he calls her Aunt Paige, something Chris never did even after they knew who he was. He really didn’t have any respect for any of them, did he? But then can you blame him?
Hehehehe!
Or the only one her college has ever heard of…
Hehehe And since I’ve never watched Buffy, I still don’t get it, but that’s okay I guess. Truly – no need to explain it.
THANK GOD!
AMEN!!!!! Speaking of, don’t you wish he’d never shown up so Chris would’ve choked on that marble?
ROFLMFAO!!!! Your best comment for this very “vanilla” episode!
YAY!
ETA: How vanilla Wes Ramsey is with is acting in this episode is one of many reasons why I'm glad that "The Charmed Sons" never became a series.
Just give you an idea, here's the 'Harmed Ones - and if you look in the background you may see other characters you'll recognize:
So those are the Charmed Ones *I'll* be thinking of as I'm reading this....
Sept 9, 2015 16:40:37 GMT -5 @p3nathan said:
Conversations with My Hairy, British SelfA.K.A- Imaginary Fiends
Hehehehehe, once more love your alternate title! TheWB so could’ve used you!
Paige is already very twitchy and I think this lasts for pretty much the whole episode. Oh joy.
And that’s what immediately made me think of the ‘Harmed version. Here’s how she’s described in the game:
a spasming, pouting dimwit with too much lipstick, appalling color co-ordination (she's dressed in bright lemon yellow, brighter lime-green and even-brighter orange!) and way too much facial hair!
Paige: Preschool? Don’t you mean magic school?
Piper: No, I mean preschool. We enrolled him last week, remember?
Paige: You didn’t tell me that. Did you?
Piper: Yes, and you said you were worried about him using magic in public.
Paige: Oh. And what’d you say?
Piper: I said I was worried about him having a normal life.
So all that stuff about his schooling and his safety in season 6 went out the window huh? Because bla bla, normal life, bla bla B.S. Already I’m warm with fury and we’re not even a whole minute into the damn episode.
Piper: No, I mean preschool. We enrolled him last week, remember?
Paige: You didn’t tell me that. Did you?
Piper: Yes, and you said you were worried about him using magic in public.
Paige: Oh. And what’d you say?
Piper: I said I was worried about him having a normal life.
So all that stuff about his schooling and his safety in season 6 went out the window huh? Because bla bla, normal life, bla bla B.S. Already I’m warm with fury and we’re not even a whole minute into the damn episode.
And people wonder why I think Piper never should’ve had kids as long as she had powers…AND they wonder why I think the “demon” who turned Wyatt (and Chris) evil is Piper…another reason I think the Forever Charmed flash-forward is Piper’s delusion and not reality – no way her sons would become witches and not warlocks! Which is also the reason why I think the girl in the flash-forward is her daughter – no way she wouldn’t imagine herself without one without her but she has no idea if she’d name her Prudence Melinda or Melinda Prudence so therefore in her delusion she didn’t name her.
Paige apparently has a New Zealand charge by the way... and yes she is complaining.
Paige: Really? Stop the jingling, already. I’ll be there as soon as I can. Charges.
So as Paige’s neglected charge is presumably tortured and killed by some demon, a bad guy attacks in the attic.
Paige: Really? Stop the jingling, already. I’ll be there as soon as I can. Charges.
So as Paige’s neglected charge is presumably tortured and killed by some demon, a bad guy attacks in the attic.
All why trying to turn a Charmed Ones into a full whitelighter was extremely stupid on the Elders’ (and Brad Kern’s) part. SHE’S NOT DEAD AND NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO DECIDE IF SHE WANTED TO BE A WHITELIGHTER OR NOT LIKE LEO DID! And people wonder why I consider S4-8 as the alternate-universe spin-off….
It looks like things could be interesting when Paige’s potion doesn’t even leave a mark, but Piper swiftly waves her hands for yet another anticlimactic vanquish.
*yawn* And that's for the show, not your comment.
They’ve used this song after the opening credits before. Sarah Maclachlan. Like the song, just pointing it out.
I wonder how often they did that during the last couple years – could they get away with paying less royalties that way?
Paige’s theory is that Wyatt is creating the demons, but Piper makes out like this is a completely ridiculous suggestion.
Piper: One! One lousy dragon. You’re gonna hold it against him for his entire life.
Piper, that one lousy dragon was destroying the city, exposed magic and quite possibly seriously injured or killed someone. You’re also forgetting the recent shrinking debacle, the evil Leo doppelganger that almost got Wyatt eaten and the constant risk of exposure because you refuse to do anything about his magic... because I guess actually teaching him to use it would get in the way of your stupid normal life shtick!
Piper: One! One lousy dragon. You’re gonna hold it against him for his entire life.
Piper, that one lousy dragon was destroying the city, exposed magic and quite possibly seriously injured or killed someone. You’re also forgetting the recent shrinking debacle, the evil Leo doppelganger that almost got Wyatt eaten and the constant risk of exposure because you refuse to do anything about his magic... because I guess actually teaching him to use it would get in the way of your stupid normal life shtick!
Back to why a magical Piper should never have children…and why Wyatt would never not turn evil no matter how many time travel trips Chris takes..
Speaking of Piper, here’s how ‘Harmed the Game, describes her:
a whining passive-aggressive woman with long shiny hair, the only beautiful thing about her
So anyway, Piper is right, it’s not him... but she still needs to shut up. It actually turns out that the imaginary friend Wyatt has been talking to is a demon named Vicus. I’ll be calling him Cheshire due to the weird Cheshire Cat thing he does when he shimmers.
Perfect name for him!
Cheshire goes back to his lair. His thing is turning magical kids to the dark side and sort of making his own army out of them I guess. So he plans to turn Wyatt evil...again, some more... seriously guys, taking the premise of a season arc then condensing and rehashing it into one filler episode?
Which also proves that Chris’ trip to the past was a total waste of time – Wyatt is always going to turn evil anyway.
Cheshire: For us. To add his power to yours, to the Collective.
Oh God, not another collective! Spare me. Do they just copy-paste whole sections of previous scripts?
Oh God, not another collective! Spare me. Do they just copy-paste whole sections of previous scripts?
They SO should’ve stopped this show after either Season 3 or Season 4!
Phoebe’s college. She went back to college remember?
So the writers actually remembered?? Should I die of shock? And here’s how ‘Harmed the Game describes her:
her selfish, egotistical, bony hag of a sister with fugly clothes, laughable fake breasts and a load of hideous and inappropriate tattoos.
See why I *have* to think of that version of the Charmed Ones than the ones you were watching??? Oh, wait. Those *are* the Charmed Ones you were watching…
Meh, I’ll take it over more of her boring office; even if it’s still all about her damn column. So all you really need to know here is that Phoebe’s professor is a big meany. Whatever.
*yawn* (again at the show, not your comments…)
Paige: I’ve been searching through the library at magic school, and I think I found something out about these demons.
Piper: And?
Paige: And it seems as if their various offensive powers are traditionally associated with good magic.
Um yeah, energy balls are totally associated with good magic... in that like 95% of the demons on this show have them! Also, I take it that they’re saying that Cheshire’s minions are witches. In which case, that’d explain why Paige’s potion did nothing, but more importantly- Piper killed a witch.
Piper: And?
Paige: And it seems as if their various offensive powers are traditionally associated with good magic.
Um yeah, energy balls are totally associated with good magic... in that like 95% of the demons on this show have them! Also, I take it that they’re saying that Cheshire’s minions are witches. In which case, that’d explain why Paige’s potion did nothing, but more importantly- Piper killed a witch.
And as Sadrick points out later on, was it really a witch or a warlock? But then it doesn’t matter, since according to his definition, Paige and Phoebe are already warlocks, so I’m sure somehow she’s one, too, because I’m sure if she felt a human needed killing, she’d blast him/her without even thinking about it.
Cheshire is back to talk to Wyatt some more. Leo is none the wiser. What happened to that demon alarm they had in season 5/6? Too useful I guess.
It’s probably in Baby Chris’ room…After all, how often do we see one of the set of fat fugly girl twins who played him? Thank God they found a better-looking set of girls to play him in Season Eight – although not as cute as the Simmons twins who played Wyatt!
Piper casts the spell to hear “the inner Wyatt” and how his 20something year old self is supposed to help with that I dunno. If I was asked for insight into the psychology of my baby-self, I’d have nothing. Anyway, the spell brings future Wyatt, because time travel just happens by accident now- dunno why that Chris guy had such an issue with it. I’ll refer to future Wyatt as Wes, just bear in mind that I am talking about future Wyatt and not the actor.
First time one of your names really doesn’t make sense, especially when it *is* the name of the actor.
Wes is so vanilla it makes me queasy.
Which is why I’m going to change all of your future references to him to Vanilla. Fits *so* much better! Hope you don’t mind. I’ll make it “Vanilla” with quotes to show that it’s my name for him, not yours. So if you copy this, feel free to turn it back if you don’t like it.
Phoebe: Well, she said that he probably was talking to an imaginary friend. I mean not-not you. You know, the other you when you were…this is gonna be so confusing.
Well if there’s a ball of string where your brain should be, yeah I suppose it would be.
Well if there’s a ball of string where your brain should be, yeah I suppose it would be.
No one had that trouble when we saw the younger versions in “That Seventies Episode” – Prue just had trouble with tenses, although that makes plenty of sense. I certainly would.
Paige moans about and neglects her charge some more.
Paige: Yes, well, he can wait, because I think this is a little bit more important.
Paige: Do I ever have a life in the future?
Does it matter Paige? If you’re unemployed, you moan. If you’re at Notwarts, you moan. If you’re in temp jobs, you moan. If you’re a whitelighter, you moan. So to answer your question, I’m gonna guess “No”. Because whatever happens in your life, you’ll moan, moan, moan. Take a look at Piper and ask yourself seriously- “Is that who I want to turn into?” because you’re on the right track!
Paige: Yes, well, he can wait, because I think this is a little bit more important.
Paige: Do I ever have a life in the future?
Does it matter Paige? If you’re unemployed, you moan. If you’re at Notwarts, you moan. If you’re in temp jobs, you moan. If you’re a whitelighter, you moan. So to answer your question, I’m gonna guess “No”. Because whatever happens in your life, you’ll moan, moan, moan. Take a look at Piper and ask yourself seriously- “Is that who I want to turn into?” because you’re on the right track!
OH! So *that’s* why the Elders turned her into a full whitelighter without giving her the choice – if she’s going to constantly moan about her future, why not be sure she’s forced to do something good while she’s moaning since she’ll get a horrible headache if she doesn’t…maybe the Elders (and Kern) aren’t as stupid as I thought they were…
“Vanilla” sees Cheshire. He doesn’t believe that he’s a demon, despite seeing him shimmer out in all his black leather... because according to “Vanilla”, he didn’t seem like a demon, whatever that means. I guess he grows up as bird-brained as his relatives!
Well, if you were raised by them, wouldn’t you be?
More of Cheshire’s minions attack and they have weird weapons like exploding metal balls and an energy whip.
Despite this being a really blatant distraction, Leo leaves Wyatt alone in the middle of all this. I just... urgh! So obviously Cheshire jumps at this opportunity to get to Wyatt. Leo doesn’t even go upstairs, he’s just stood at the bottom of the staircase listening... what are you doing? You know that the demon wants your son, you idiot!!!
Despite this being a really blatant distraction, Leo leaves Wyatt alone in the middle of all this. I just... urgh! So obviously Cheshire jumps at this opportunity to get to Wyatt. Leo doesn’t even go upstairs, he’s just stood at the bottom of the staircase listening... what are you doing? You know that the demon wants your son, you idiot!!!
Okay, okay. I’m always willing to admit that I’m wrong when I’m proven wrong. And it looks like Leo has as much to do with Wyatt turning evil as Piper!
“Vanilla” vanquishes all of Cheshire’s minions with some sort of incinerating magic blast; so I guess that’s three more dead witches. No biggy.
Nope. Especially if they’re warlocks, just like him. How could one of Piper's sons not turn into a warlock before he's 16? You know they've both vanquished a non-magical by that point. Look how easily Chris murdered the Valkyrie. After all, I'm sure that Piper taught them that "Ends Justify the Means". That "The wrong things done for the right reason is the wrong thing" is a bunch of malarky when demons are chasing you all the time and you never know who is evil and who isn't.
Cheshire makes Wyatt’s teddy bear glow and as soon as Wyatt touches it, “Vanilla” instantly becomes hairier and more English.
ROFL!!! I’d forgotten about that. And now your alternate title makes even more sense!
In Cheshire’s cave, “Vanilla” helps Phoebe and Paige to vanquish him by removing his invisibility. He’s making a point you see, because Phoebe and Paige thought that vanquishing him would make him good, but Cheshire’s curse still stands.
And, of course, Kern wants us to think that it’s Cheshire who turned Wyatt evil…but we know better, right?
“Vanilla” summons a bunch more of Cheshire’s minions to stall them while he orbs off to find himself... literally I mean, not in like a spiritual way, you understand.
LOL, yes, we understand. Now if he was smart, he’d take his younger self and orb them both to the future so he doesn’t have to be raised by this crowd…
”Vanilla”: No orbing, Aunt Paige..
I love that he calls her Aunt Paige, something Chris never did even after they knew who he was. He really didn’t have any respect for any of them, did he? But then can you blame him?
Pfft. Doubt that would have been an issue “Vanilla”, but okay.
Hehehehe!
So “Vanilla” gets Wyatt, to try and stop them from turning him good again.
Phoebe quotes Freud like five times this episode by the way. I guess he’s the only psychologist the writers have heard of.
Phoebe quotes Freud like five times this episode by the way. I guess he’s the only psychologist the writers have heard of.
Or the only one her college has ever heard of…
Leo basically gives “Vanilla” a yellow crayon speech and all is well. (for those who don’t watch Buffy, that just means he made him good again by telling him he loves him) “Vanilla’s” haircut is restored, as is his American accent.
Hehehe And since I’ve never watched Buffy, I still don’t get it, but that’s okay I guess. Truly – no need to explain it.
Phoebe’s professor gives her an A- and does some of the Phoebe arse-kissing that has become such a staple of this show. Another ego-tron is born! But not to worry; as we won’t be seeing this professor or anything to do with Phoebe’s college after this episode anyway.
THANK GOD!
“Vanilla” is about to be sent home... and it doesn’t require the Power of Three, because who cares?
”Vanilla”: Aunt Phoebe, I think you should hold onto that imaginary friend’s paper of yours.
Phoebe: Why?
”Vanilla”: For my little cousin.
Urgh, get out of here you evil little bastard! Quit feeding her damn obsession!
”Vanilla”: Aunt Phoebe, I think you should hold onto that imaginary friend’s paper of yours.
Phoebe: Why?
”Vanilla”: For my little cousin.
Urgh, get out of here you evil little bastard! Quit feeding her damn obsession!
AMEN!!!!! Speaking of, don’t you wish he’d never shown up so Chris would’ve choked on that marble?
Next up- Zombies are hungry for braaaaains. So someone should really inform them that they’re wasting their time going after the Charmed Ones.
ROFLMFAO!!!! Your best comment for this very “vanilla” episode!
But also Zankou, so yay.
YAY!
ETA: How vanilla Wes Ramsey is with is acting in this episode is one of many reasons why I'm glad that "The Charmed Sons" never became a series.