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Post by forbuss on Sept 9, 2020 22:48:29 GMT -5
I just posted a review of season eight in the review board, but to summarize: I used to loathe it and considered it the worst season. Now I actually don't - please check out my review y'all!
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Post by rebooted on Sept 10, 2020 20:22:07 GMT -5
I just posted a review of season eight in the review board, but to summarize: I used to loathe it and considered it the worst season. Now I actually don't - please check out my review y'all! Hey I couldn't find this can you link me?
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Post by forbuss on Sept 10, 2020 20:58:54 GMT -5
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Post by Aaeiyn on Aug 21, 2021 23:43:42 GMT -5
Just finished my Charmed all over again marathon. I watched every single episode, 1x01 till 8x22 and God I've changed my mind about season 8. Back then I was sort of confused and I didn't like it that much, now I love it! I understood so many things about the sisters, things that (aside from the fictional magic world) because of my age and personal issues now I'm feeling strongly related to, things that make a lot of fans hate S8, fans who IMO share Christy's mentality on how the Charmed ones should be and act. If there's something I fully hated while watching this season was precisely Christy and her mentality. I swear I wanted to become a magical creature to kill her with my own powers! LOL! I am aware that some fans could probably dislike my views, maybe even hate me for going against the flow, but I assure you that my intention will never be to attack other fans, nor say I'm right and you/they are wrong. I respect all your opinions, this is just the way I see it. IK I'm responding to a post made 5 years ago, but I just want to say that I understand your thought process. In response to the actual thread, itself, I still like it. I never hated/disliked S8.
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Sept 16, 2021 18:34:20 GMT -5
I really do like s8, even better than s7. I enjoyed the Billie and Christy storyline but what I enjoyed the most was Piper. She truly stepped up as the big sister and filled in Prue's shoes this season. And just because she wanted Leo back, it didn't mean she was wrong in everything else or that it lessened her credibility. Piper has always been very different from Prue in that she internalises. She never wanted to be a witch, even as early as s1 but she still did it. She lost her sister, her husband, almost her sons because of it. Little Wyatt was almost erased from existence and Future Chris died and Baby Chris was nearly kidnapped by Barbas. Also, the Angel of Destiny, the Elders, everyone said they may not survive The Ultimate Power so I honestly believe Piper was just trying to protect her family. Also, even Billie said the Charmed Ones weren't wrong for wanting those things and they weren't hurting innocents or anything trying to get them. Even when they had faked their deaths, they couldn't stop caring about innocents. Malice in Wonderland, Run Piper Run, Rewitched are just some examples of that. Also, Payback's a Witch really reminded me of s2 Phoebe where she cast a spell that backfired or used something for personal gain. Like most early season fans say that the sisters in later seasons used their powers for personal gain, yet forget that Phoebe cast a smart spell in s2 to win a job interview without consequences. Phoebe lost her powers in s6 which was more consequence.
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Post by Aaeiyn on Sept 16, 2021 19:16:10 GMT -5
I really do like s8, even better than s7. I enjoyed the Billie and Christy storyline but what I enjoyed the most was Piper. She truly stepped up as the big sister and filled in Prue's shoes this season. And just because she wanted Leo back, it didn't mean she was wrong in everything else or that it lessened her credibility. Piper has always been very different from Prue in that she internalises. She never wanted to be a witch, even as early as s1 but she still did it. She lost her sister, her husband, almost her sons because of it. Little Wyatt was almost erased from existence and Future Chris died and Baby Chris was nearly kidnapped by Barbas. Also, the Angel of Destiny, the Elders, everyone said they may not survive The Ultimate Power so I honestly believe Piper was just trying to protect her family. Also, even Billie said the Charmed Ones weren't wrong for wanting those things and they weren't hurting innocents or anything trying to get them. Even when they had faked their deaths, they couldn't stop caring about innocents. Malice in Wonderland, Run Piper Run, Rewitched are just some examples of that. Also, Payback's a Witch really reminded me of s2 Phoebe where she cast a spell that backfired or used something for personal gain. Like most early season fans say that the sisters in later seasons used their powers for personal gain, yet forget that Phoebe cast a smart spell in s2 to win a job interview without consequences. Phoebe lost her powers in s6 which was more consequence. Yas, agree, agree, agree! If there was a like button, I would hit that, instead LOL I still like S7 better than S8, but I don't think S8 is as bad as I thought/was told. I genuinely think it's better than S2 & S4, I'm sorry! But, yeah, just wanted to say that I agree with you LOL
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Sept 16, 2021 19:52:12 GMT -5
I like s2 for the sisterly moments but I feel like a lot of the stuff that is criticised happened in the earlier seasons too.
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Post by Aaeiyn on Sept 16, 2021 20:19:15 GMT -5
I like s2 for the sisterly moments but I feel like a lot of the stuff that is criticised happened in the earlier seasons too. YAS! That's what I'm saying! Piper has been consistently against the idea of being a witch, since S1, like you said, so her personality hadn't really changed all that much. And, I don't think she's a bad mom, either. In S7 "Cheaper by the Coven", she practically leaves her job to come straight home and kept calling for Leo (their father), despite her family bothering her, as she goes to the Book of Shadows trying to figure out what demon is after her son. That doesn't sound like a bad mom, to me. All the "fairy tale stuff" happened in earlier seasons, as well. I'm re-watching S2 and finished the Cupid episode. That's right, a Cupid. Sounds pretty "fairy tale", to me. Or, what some Reddit users call it..."Disneyfied" LOL Then, in S3, we get the fairies and trolls. So, the Paige era didn't invent the concept of the "fairy tales" nor "light-hearted" creatures. This happened back in the Prue era. I'll say the Paige era may have overdid it, but the fairy tale concept is nothing new, from the numerous times I've spam watched the show (because it is my number one show, afterall LOL). Now, I will agree that S1-S2 is definitely more sisterly. Splashes of sisterly moments are seen in S3, S4 & S5. S6 tried and then S7-S8 it just went poof. Now, I'm fine with the series not being as "sisterly" because I definitely enjoy watching them in action and taking down evil. What I will criticize S8 for is the lack of music. S8 doesn't follow the S1-S2 formula of playing a song, while we have aerial views of SF. This is why S5b-S6 resonates with me because it followed that formula. S8 is the absolute WORST season, for the music LOL That be my criticism of S8. I don't want to praise it too much because there are parts of it, that get on my nerves LOL
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Post by rebooted on Sept 17, 2021 2:15:32 GMT -5
I liked the concept of Evil or the Triad anticipating the arrival of the Charmed Ones and then investing in another sisterly coven to go up against them after brainwashing them. But the execution of all that was horrible.
It could have been cool if the woman killed at the beginning of SWTWComes, the first episode was Billie's sister but there was another one that needed to be saved.
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Sept 17, 2021 18:05:49 GMT -5
I don't think Christy deserved to be saved.
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Post by askfreebie on Oct 20, 2021 12:57:35 GMT -5
When I first watched it, I very much echoed most of the fandom by hating Billie and considering it the worst season. I still think Forever Charmed, the fake identity plot and Coop are trash and I'll never like the Ultimate Power being able to rival the Power of Three. I don't care if Prue's spirit was "holding them back" because that never stopped NuP03 from working any other time. The Power of Three w/ Paige was strong enough to put the entire world to sleep (with help from the Avatars), take out the Source like three times, take out Shax immediately and destroy the Nexus. So nah, I'm not buying it.
The girls are still selfish but they're nowhere as bad as they were in S6. S8 is a lot more bearable overall than S6 and S5, imo. I also like Billie now. She was vibrant like the girls were in the earlier seasons and this season benefitted from her presence. I kind of wish we had gotten her around S6 instead of Chris but alas. I genuinely don't think Christie is that bad either outside of an occasionally hammy actress.
Do I think S8 is great television? Absolutely not. Do I think it's as bad as people were making it out to be a couple of years ago and even now? No way. It's watchable which is more I can say for the second half of S4 as well as S5 & S6.
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Post by rebooted on Apr 21, 2022 4:42:08 GMT -5
I am not a big fan of Season 8
But I am currently rewatching it.
And there are some great scenes in the Season.
It makes me laugh, smile at some of the cute scenes (Wyatt in the pumpkin outfit at the end of Desp Housewitches etc), and get teary eyed like when Henry proposed to Paige on the bridge.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Jun 14, 2022 21:25:51 GMT -5
Finished my S8 rewatch and....it's still for the most part, a cringe worthy season. Like most of Charmed in general it had the bones for a good storyline but the writers really just phoned it in along with half the cast.
The highlight? The fashion. After the clothes get extremely flashy they tone things down a bit more that make everyone feel a bit more real.
Surprisingly Phoebe was my favorite Halliwell in S8 even though she goes on and on about children and husbands. The fact that she talks about love in the finale flash forward when she....CHEATED at love essentially is very funny. Dont be giving people love advice when you literally had to be sent a husband on a silver platter. It's rather sad that the writers felt like they couldn't have her fall in love naturally and had to send her a Cupid.
Paige is ok but Roses acting is just at an all time low this season that I just cringe a lot with her storylines. She was most notability checked out, out of the 3.
Piper does not do any favors to TCO declining reputation. She is just at an all time bitterness. She is over being a witch, over being nice, wants to kill anyone. Even though it isnt explored...if she could blow up a human or a witch...she 100% would if it made her day easier. But at least she does use her freezing a handful of times which was refreshing.
Billie/Christie are just...the ultimate annoyance. They really should've just given us Aviva back and reveal that she ultimately she did not learn her lesson and traded having powers over being loyal to the Halliwells.
The start of the season was a mess and the writers simply did not care about resolving the cousins subplot in any type of legitimate way and The Halliwells becoming semi famous really disappeared fairly quickly.
Wyatt really is an annoying character and he doesnt even really have that much character himself. He's just there. The writers really should've just did a 2-3 year time jump so they could at least give him somewhat of a decent story.
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Post by Aaeiyn on Mar 31, 2024 4:12:59 GMT -5
As we all know, I've been doing a lot of spreadsheets and datamining of the show, to show some statistical analysis. Because of this, I went from "Like to Dislike".
I already knew S8 lacked on Phoebe premonitions (despite 2/3 being Dex focused), but I was utterly shocked to find it slacked on her (strength) martial arts, as well. The only episodes to really showcase this are easily missed:
S8E9 "Hulkus Pocus" When the Charmed Ones get all "hulked out", and "Hulk" Phoebe is punching and kicking away.
S8E13 "Repo Manor" It's the shapeshifter (posing as Phoebe) doing all the strength moves.
S8E16 "Engaged & Confused" Phoebe BARELY uses her strength, as Coop freezes her in the act, that she doesn't even get it off.
So, yes, VERY disappointed in how much Phoebe's abilities are hardly used, in this season. It really drags the season down, for me. It (honestly) feels like Alyssa Milano was shoved to the side, to make room for Kaley Cuoco's character. As by S8, Milano isn't the show's "pretty girl", anymore. So, the mantle got passed onto Cuoco. But, they still kept Piper & Paige because of their "flashy" powers.
I do like S8 more than S5, though (for story), BUT I value power balance more than story, at this moment in time. So, I have to give S5 credit for power balance over S8. I understand S8 was on a budget, but S8 couldn't even pull a S5E17 "Lucky Charmed" nor S5E22 "Oh My Goddess, Pt 1" non-visual premonition. If it didn't really want to film out the premonitions. Or, if not to waste time, at all, filming out non-visual premonitions but giving us off-screen premonitions like S3E12 "Wrestling with Demons", S3E22 "All Hell Breaks Loose" and/or S6E19 "Crimes & Witch Demeanors". But, no (sigh).
S8 completely negates Phoebe's abilities, and A LOT of time Phoebe is fairly absent in helping out, even if she's NOT using her abilities. Something S5 does better than S8. Phoebe barely does anything to help in these episodes:
S8E6 "Kill Billie: Vol I" Phoebe's too worried about Dex, she's not helping Paige with the reporters nor Billie with the Dogan.
S8E7 "The Lost Picture Show" Phoebe's more concerned about a donor than J.D., Billie, Paige, Piper & Leo body switch, etc.
S8E12 "Payback's a Witch" Phoebe is hardly involved in this episode. She doesn't really help with the Nick situation, at all, except maybe make a potion.
S8E15 "The Last Temptation of Christy" Phoebe is completely absent from all the fighting going on. Seemed like she was stuck just making potions and even complaining about not being in her condo, which she could've easily been in, as this episode didn't really use her, at all.
S8E17 "Generation Hex" I get in S8E17 "Generation Hex" Coop took her on a side quest, but why did the side journey need to take up most of the episode?
So, we only have 3 premonitions (nothing to do with innocents) and 5 episodes where she's really not doing much. That's like 8/22 episodes where she's fairly useless, to have around, so why bother?
The only episodes I feel like she actually did something are in the following:
S8E3 "Run, Piper, Run" S8E8 "Battle of the Hexes" S8E11 "Mr. & Mrs. Witch"
That's really about it. The rest she's kind of there but not really. It's a very disappointing Phoebe season.
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Post by prueislove on Nov 21, 2024 4:15:26 GMT -5
I love s8. It's probably one of the only seasons in the Paige era I enjoyed completely. It felt very much like a mix of s2 and s3 where most of it didn't have a plot but then it focused on moving towards a bigger enemy which ended up being Billie and Christy more so Christy. It would have been more interesting for me if Christy was the new Source because this is the season where Piper truly takes on Prue's role, Phoebe becomes the middle sister, supportive yet needing her break from magic when she moves out and Paige becomes the carefree baby whose trying to find her way.
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