Unpopular Opinions: Charmed Style

[ljones]

I think the issue here was had Andy stayed he would of had a bigger purpose than Darryl in the same role, because he had known the Halliwell's as children and had been involved with Prue. But with Darryl the stories were limited, but if we had both Andy and Darryl for 8 seasons, then you got something to work with.

I loved Darryl, but I can admit his story didn't really go anywhere. Too bad because had Andy not died, then he would of had more material to work with.

As long as they were practicing magic in San Francisco, they needed a police contact. The problem was that Darryl was not handled well by Brad Kern and his writers. Darryl became the sisters' butt monkey - especially in Season Six. I'm referring to the theft of his soul in the Season Six premiere and how their carelessness nearly caused him his life. And what happened? The sisters via the writers made Darryl look bad for remaining angry at them until the end of the season. I especially despised how Chris cruelly used his telekinesis out of spite on Darryl and Leo seemed amused by it. I thought that was just too much.

This whole thing merely confirmed that with the writers, it was okay for the sisters not to be forgiving against those who wronged them in some way. But it was not okay for others to be unforgiving toward the sisters, when they wrong someone. I couldn't stand the hypocrisy.

Of course she didnt have to "eliminate" Wyatt. But she needed to be more cognizant of the threat he could pose entirely on accident. Binding his powers was always seen as wrong and almost evil, even though its actually a pretty good option and it only has to be until he understands more about himself. And preferably is past the tantrum stage.

I heartily agree.

[Ruth Marie]

May 15, 2017 19:58:06 GMT -5 ljones said:

I think the issue here was had Andy stayed he would of had a bigger purpose than Darryl in the same role, because he had known the Halliwell's as children and had been involved with Prue. But with Darryl the stories were limited, but if we had both Andy and Darryl for 8 seasons, then you got something to work with.

I loved Darryl, but I can admit his story didn't really go anywhere. Too bad because had Andy not died, then he would of had more material to work with.

As long as they were practicing magic in San Francisco, they needed a police contact. The problem was that Darryl was not handled well by Brad Kern and his writers. Darryl became the sisters' butt monkey - especially in Season Six. I'm referring to the theft of his soul in the Season Six premiere and how their carelessness nearly caused him his life. And what happened? The sisters via the writers made Darryl look bad for remaining angry at them until the end of the season. I especially despised how Chris cruelly used his telekinesis out of spite on Darryl and Leo seemed amused by it. I thought that was just too much.

This whole thing merely confirmed that with the writers, it was okay for the sisters not to be forgiving against those who wronged them in some way. But it was not okay for others to be unforgiving toward the sisters, when they wrong someone. I couldn't stand the hypocrisy.

Yeah Darryl was poorly used in season 6, and I didn't like what they did to him. Both Phoebe and Paige were horrible for what they did to him in the first episode of season 6. I was so glad they wrote him off and he left. He was better off away from them. 

[Elle Em]

It's mind boggling that Piper was against binding Wyatt's powers. At any moment, he could perform magic that could hurt and kill, even if baby Wyatt wouldn't mean to do such a thing. He released the dragon on the city, they got the situation under control, and basically breathed a sigh of relief before going back to their normal lives. Did they just hope it wouldn't happen again?

[Melinda Halliwell]

And that just proves Wyatt was too young to handle his powers because he didn't have to ability to comprehend what was right and wrong then being only 10 months old which he would do so growing up learning that from people which's why binding his powers was the best option then till he reached the age where he could understand all this and would have the maturity to handle everything not to say he couldn't learn about spells and magic and potion making along the way.

[askfreebie]

Chris was a horrible character, who endangered the life of the sisters(including Piper, HIS MOTHER). It shows that the writers only decided to make Chris, Piper's son when they wrote themselves into a corner.

[Esmeralda]

May 31, 2017 7:06:14 GMT -5 askfreebie said:

Chris was a horrible character, who endangered the life of the sisters(including Piper, HIS MOTHER). It shows that the writers only decided to make Chris, Piper's son when they wrote themselves into a corner.

No, they decided to make Chris Piper's son when Holly Marie announced she was pregnant - during the filming of 'The Sword and the City'. Had she not, "ChrisCrossed" would've been Chris' last appearance and totally different, as in the sisters being crisscrossed. Watch Chris before and after that episode and it's amazing in the differences.

[sol]

No, they decided to make Chris Piper's son when Holly Marie announced she was pregnant - during the filming of 'The Sword and the City'

Are you sure this isn' t one of the Charmed legend?


It is evident since the end of season 5 that Chris has a special relationship with Wyatt and feelings that scare the baby
In Valhalley of the Dolls,,  Chris tells Wyatt " If anyone should be protecting themselves, it's me from you"
In these words there is the plot of the all season

[Esmeralda]

Jun 7, 2017 0:37:47 GMT -5 sol said:

No, they decided to make Chris Piper's son when Holly Marie announced she was pregnant - during the filming of 'The Sword and the City'

Are you sure this isn' t one of the Charmed legend?


It is evident since the end of season 5 that Chris has a special relationship with Wyatt and feelings that scare the baby
In Valhalley of the Dolls,,  Chris tells Wyatt " If anyone should be protecting themselves, it's me from you"
In these words there is the plot of the all season

Yes, it is. Which is why I believe at that point, Chris was there to *kill* Wyatt, not save him - that *he* was the Big Bad of Season 6, not Gideon (who would not have been part of the season) or the Twice-Blessed Child, but Chris.

That changed when they became brothers.

Yes, it might be a legend, but it's still the only explanation that makes the whole season make sense, especially when Holly has verified that "'The Sword and the City' is her favorite episode because she got to play with the sword and she found out she was pregnant. I always thought she found out BETWEEN seasons. When I read that, then it all made total sense.

[magena]

I read that only the writers and Fuller knew who really was Chris
In an interview Fuller told he was hired to be Piper's son

[gzv969]

Talking about Chris. At the end of Season 5 he traps Leo in Valhalla. And from the season opener of season 6 it's apparent that chris had a very great relationship with all the girls there. A race that prides in finding male warriors. So if he came from the future to save Wyatt, when did he have time to fraternize with them and gain their respect to the point they were willing to work with him? Did he just go there right after time traveling and spend months there before deciding to do what he came to do? It's always bothered me

[Esmeralda]

Jun 7, 2017 14:57:10 GMT -5 magena said:

I read that only the writers and Fuller knew who really was Chris
In an interview Fuller told he was hired to be Piper's son

I've read that, too, just like I've read Kern say that. But I've always believed that that is just spin. Or if it's true, he did a horrible job of doing little things that would've given us a clue the way a great actor would, especially if he was always truly supposed to care about Piper.

In Valhalley of the Dolls,, Chris tells Wyatt " If anyone should be protecting themselves, it's me from you"
In these words there is the plot of the all season.

That line is what made me certain that Chris wanted to kill Wyatt and why I was going bloody murder when Leo handed Wyatt to Chris during "It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World" - I was sure that's when Chris was going to kill Wyatt. I was shocked when it worked the other way - but, OH! Did I cheer that he was gone!

[Sadrick]

Chris is a murderer who stooped to some pretty bad lows in order to achieve his goals. I could better relate to his situation if the writers had made it a point to stress how the wretched dog-eat-dog hell-hole of a world he grew up in had made it necessary for people like himself to commit certain questionable actions to survive. Portraying him as someone who is self-conscious of the actions he does but feels they're necessary while taking responsibility would have gone a long way towards making him appear more consistent and sympathetic.

[sol]

Jun 7, 2017 20:53:11 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Jun 7, 2017 14:57:10 GMT -5 magena said:

I read that only the writers and Fuller knew who really was Chris
In an interview Fuller told he was hired to be Piper's son

I've read that, too, just like I've read Kern say that. But I've always believed that that is just spin. Or if it's true, he did a horrible job of doing little things that would've given us a clue the way a great actor would, especially if he was always truly supposed to care about Piper.

In Valhalley of the Dolls,, Chris tells Wyatt " If anyone should be protecting themselves, it's me from you"
In these words there is the plot of the all season.

That line is what made me certain that Chris wanted to kill Wyatt and why I was going bloody murder when Leo handed Wyatt to Chris during "It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World" - I was sure that's when Chris was going to kill Wyatt. I was shocked when it worked the other way - but, OH! Did I cheer that he was gone!

Drew Fuller isn't an expressive actor, beautiful, with a nice smile but not very expressive

It was evident a Chris strong link with the sisters and Wyatt till Valhalley of the Dolls but I start thinking he was the son of one of the sisters - Paige or Piper -  till the Three Blondes episode
He was good at understanding which was the true trio

Piper: How did you know they weren't us?

Chris: In all my life I have never seen you take the bait the way that witch took it from you.

Phoebe: In all your life? You've only been our Whitelighter for two months.
Chris: Let's just reverse the magic.

A very big lapse that in all my life and there was something that made me think he was Piper's son

[Melinda Halliwell]

I thought Chris might've been Piper and Leo's son because he had brown hair like her and green eyes like his dad amongst other things of course.

[Chrisaholic]

Though it might have been evident from the start that Chris should be Piper and Leo's second son, as it was said in "The Book of Three Vol.2" that Kern only told Drew Fuller how his role was going to be. And the others were only told like their roles. I bet that was not easy for anyone behind the scenes.

[erikamarie]

I wasn't so quick, I have to wait for Chris Crossed!
But sometimes I suspected Chris was adult Wyatt

[afroeuvre]

I thought Season 2 was incredibly boring.

[forbuss]

I love this thread!

Here are some of mine:

1. I don't really like Leo as a boyfriend/husband. I liked them better as their Whitelighter, although I would have preferred the sisters to have a female Whitelighter (NOT Natalie). Maybe the actress who played Sandra the Elder could have been their Whitelighter instead. If they were going to go with Leo as a boyfriend, I would have liked to see them develop more of a relationship and "hold off" on them dating for longer.

2. Prue is my least favorite sister - this one is definitely unpopular. I like Paige better individually, but preferred the Charmed Ones with Prue rather than Paige.

3. I liked all of the sisters power growth.

4. I didn't like Andy as Prue's boyfriend - honestly, I just thought Prue could have done better. In fact, I hated all of her boyfriends, especially Jack the twin - awful. Prue needed someone more strong in the way Bane was - only he was sortof messed up and not really available...

5. I thought Paige should have ended up with Glenn - sure I like Henry, but I loved the episodes with Glenn. Especially early Paige - she was subversive, smart, and lived a non traditional life like Glenn. Alas, he got married to that awful blonde woman (I don't think we were supposed to like her).

6. I think season four is the best the show as been in terms of storytelling - the chaos and emotions Prue's death caused led to some really great moments of grief and self-destructive behaviours amongst the sisters, something that is very human, and something that we didn't see in the same capacity until season four.

7. I generally like 'Forever Charmed' - Honestly the only thing I dislike about this episode is the epilogue at the end with old Piper (and of course the omission of Prue).

8. I really did like Jason and Phoebe in season six although it was a very doomed relationship.

9. I think that Prue was the correct cast member to kill off - if they had to remove anyone, I agree Prue was the best choice dramaturgically.

10. I don't mind that Shelia started to hate the sisters in season seven - I feel strongly about this one. Yes, we saw in the past that Shelia was encouraging Darryl to help the sisters (namely with Chris). However, I think the sisters were really starting to take advantage of Darryl and were putting him in danger that we didn't see them put him in the first couple seasons. I'm glad that Sheila stood up for Darryl, because she had to - the sisters would always drag him back in. Aren't they the most powerful witches of all time? Why did they need to screw him over so bad? In short - Sheilia stood up for the safety of her husband and the father of her children. Can't hate on her for that! Of course I am sad that Darryl wasn't in season eight, but he could have still been in it with some storyline (if the budget had of allowed it). I really wish that he was in S8 and they gave Sheila more of a role. I would LOVE to see Sheila tell off the sisters for messing with her family the way that they did. Also, Sandra Prosper is really a great actress.

[Elle Em]

Sept 12, 2020 14:10:38 GMT -5 forbuss said:

I love this thread!

Here are some of mine:

1. I don't really like Leo as a boyfriend/husband. I liked them better as their Whitelighter, although I would have preferred the sisters to have a female Whitelighter (NOT Natalie). Maybe the actress who played Sandra the Elder could have been their Whitelighter instead. If they were going to go with Leo as a boyfriend, I would have liked to see them develop more of a relationship and "hold off" on them dating for longer.

4. I didn't like Andy as Prue's boyfriend - honestly, I just thought Prue could have done better. In fact, I hated all of her boyfriends, especially Jack the twin - awful. Prue needed someone more strong in the way Bane was - only he was sortof messed up and not really available...

I definitely agree with these. I thought Leo was better as their whitelighter as well. But if he and Piper were going to end up together, I wish they'd waited a lot longer to even have that happen. Maybe the sisters were so far off the radar when they first got their powers and the elders couldn't sense when they used them, so it took a while to even find them and assign them a whitelighter. Then Leo is their whitelighter for a year or so before he and Piper start dating. We could push their story back by maybe two or three years and have their story go much slower, and then end it with them just married or a few months after.

I love Andy, but I don't know if he and Prue are the best fit for each other. However, I did think that he was the best option for her of all the guys she did date. But I think he was a much simpler person than Prue and that she had a lot of growing to do as a person, and that they were destined to end up as much too different. I can see him and season 1 Prue together, but thinking of how Prue's personality changes in season 3, I can't see them together at all. I believe that if she had lived to see season 4 she would have settled a little bit eventually, but I still think she had moved on from Andy and that she'd never be happy ending up with a guy she loved in high school. 

[Assassin Witch]

Yay! Another Paige/Glenn fan! <3