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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 23:29:38 GMT -5
Yes, it does. This show was supposed to be about strong turn of the Millennium, independent women. However, that damned flash forward, all of them happily married and shooting out babies, was right out of the 1950's.
What kind of message is that to send to a 2006 audience.
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Post by sol on Oct 1, 2015 10:40:24 GMT -5
Now let's not go over the top with the new clichè, I know quite a lot of strong women with influential jobs who have children and furthermore an husband, husbands who know how very well to take care of their children
My boss manages a big publlic relation company and yet she has 2 sons and a nice and busy life and I wish oen or two babies after 35 years of age and after finding the job that I dream
What's wrong?
I didn't like the idea of a next generation of powerful witches or, worse yet, hybrid,that become, in fans imagination, a kind of super charmed one
As the sisters, free to come back at last to their lives, to have children, open restaurants, write books, practice yoga, dance on the cube :and although we certainly had our struggles and heartaches over the years, we’re a family of survivors and we will always be. Which is why we’ve truly been Charmed.
Nice words for a finale
I don't think about having to get lessons or messages from a TV show, life is different
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 10:45:42 GMT -5
Still, did it have to be all three of them? Would it have killed them to have at least one of the sisters single and childless. We already had Piper happily married with children, while running a business.
They could have left Paige and Henry still dating when the series ended (they got married way too fast, IMO). As for Phoebe, pair her up with Kira the Seer. They had more chemistry than she and Mr. Cardboard did.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 13:09:10 GMT -5
Still, did it have to be all three of them? Would it have killed them to have at least one of the sisters single and childless. We already had Piper happily married with children, while running a business. They could have left Paige and Henry still dating when the series ended (they got married way too fast, IMO). As for Phoebe, pair her up with Kira the Seer. They had more chemistry than she and Mr. Cardboard did. Exactly. The entire ending of "everybody happily married and with 2.5 children" ending just REEKED of 1950s social mores. The only things missing were the dog and white picket fence. So much for the sisters being strong, independent modern women.  |
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Post by lilchi7212 on Oct 1, 2015 14:18:34 GMT -5
Still, did it have to be all three of them? Would it have killed them to have at least one of the sisters single and childless. We already had Piper happily married with children, while running a business. They could have left Paige and Henry still dating when the series ended (they got married way too fast, IMO). As for Phoebe, pair her up with Kira the Seer. They had more chemistry than she and Mr. Cardboard did. Exactly. The entire ending of "everybody happily married and with 2.5 children" ending just REEKED of 1950s social mores. The only things missing were the dog and white picket fence. So much for the sisters being strong, independent modern women. There's nothing wrong with being a strong independent woman but when you enter into a relationship, that independent woman stuff to some degree has to go! Once you find a guy in your life it's his time to step up and do his job to properly take care of you. This is not about money or "gender roles",but more about showing his love by providing in various ways but unfortunately this doesn't happen like that for many women because they suffer from what some people call Independent Woman Syndrome. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 23:34:17 GMT -5
And the ice cream truck going by. Everything is nice and neat for the Charmed Ones here in good old 1956.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 0:18:52 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with being a strong independent woman but when you enter into a relationship, that independent woman stuff to some degree has to go! Once you find a guy in your life it's his time to step up and do his job to properly take care of you. This is not about money or "gender roles",but more about showing his love by providing in various ways but unfortunately this doesn't happen like that for many women because they suffer from what some people call Independent Woman Syndrome. Seriously, go back to 1955. Sounds shocking and scary, I know, but men are just as capable of mopping floors, cooking dinner, and changing diapers as women are. And, women make pretty awesome breadwinners, too, even with that pesky "Wage Gap" thing holding them back. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 1:30:54 GMT -5
The age of the "Little woman needing a big strong man to protect her" is long gone. This is the 21st Century.
As I have said, that might be why Charmed has not had a lasting presence that other long over shows, like Buffy, have. It's morals were aimed at the era of the Cleavers and the Nelsons.
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Post by sol on Oct 2, 2015 2:24:29 GMT -5
Even in 20st century men were able to cook or take care of a child
My mother is a doctor and my father a teacher: during her night or holiday shift my dad looked after me even when I was a baby setting up my meals, changing diapers, tiding up my room: my father took care of me more than my mother and it is normal he had more free time
In Charmed Leo took care a lot of his sons once he become human, I though he was right but I remember many fans disapproved him, calling Leo "Piper's errand boy"
And so? She was working, it seems right that he have to take care of the children, a lot of men in Spain ask for the parental leave
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Post by Nimue on Oct 2, 2015 3:38:34 GMT -5
Except for the fact that those story lines were rushed, I never had anything against the sisters ending up married. What I don't like, however, (apart from the fact there was absolutely no room left for a spin-off, damn you Brad Kern!) is the three of them having three kids each: like, seriously? I can understand Phoebe having three daughters, but Piper already had Chris and Wyatt, and I can see Paige and Henry at least adopting one child, but three each??? No way.
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Post by sol on Oct 2, 2015 5:01:02 GMT -5
Except for the fact that those story lines were rushed, I never had anything against the sisters ending up married. What I don't like, however, (apart from the fact there was absolutely no room left for a spin-off, damn you Brad Kern!) is the three of them having three kids each: like, seriously? I can understand Phoebe having three daughters, but Piper already had Chris and Wyatt, and I can see Paige and Henry at least adopting one child, but three each??? No way. I agree, Phoebe with her fear of desertion is the kind of woman who dreams of a large family but Paige isn't Unless she and Henry have adopted a child and at the same time she thought of a pregnancy, they wished two children and, surprise, they had three I 'ld not worry about a sequel of Charmed with the sisters and their children, too much onerous -to work with 9 children you must have at your's disposal 9 sets of twins- and too boring As for older children, I have seen on an advertising set how many issues a six year old child is able to create: one, not nine! Maybe after the season 20 or 25 of Supernatural, sooner or later they'll get tired of Sam and Dean, someone will think that there would be handy a charming story of brothers, magic and not supernatural,with their good dose of affection and rivalry and complexs and it will be the turn of the Charmed brothers Two brothers no one sister! |
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Post by lilchi7212 on Oct 2, 2015 12:09:40 GMT -5
The age of the "Little woman needing a big strong man to protect her" is long gone. This is the 21st Century. As I have said, that might be why Charmed has not had a lasting presence that other long over shows, like Buffy, have. It's morals were aimed at the era of the Cleavers and the Nelsons. I disagree some strong independent women still want a guy who is as strong as them. Independence shouldn’t make a man feel nervous or any less masculine; a woman’s strength is not a threat to a man’s masculinity. Furthermore, the need for independence doesn’t rely on solidarity because it is not a matter of isolation; it is a state of being. It is important to understand that a desire for independence doesn’t cease to exist when they choose to be with someone; in fact, it shouldn’t really change at all. Independent individuals are not a feat to be “conquered.” |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 13:19:26 GMT -5
Except for the fact that those story lines were rushed, I never had anything against the sisters ending up married. What I don't like, however, (apart from the fact there was absolutely no room left for a spin-off, damn you Brad Kern!) is the three of them having three kids each: like, seriously? I can understand Phoebe having three daughters, but Piper already had Chris and Wyatt, and I can see Paige and Henry at least adopting one child, but three each??? No way. Tell me about it. Paige and Henry actually made a good couple, but their marriage would've been WAY more realistic if Henry had been introduced earlier in the show and their relationship had been allowed to develop naturally over time like Piper and Leo's. Henry could've easily been introduced in, say, Season 5 or 6 and started dating Paige then. Not only would their relationship have been more developed, but it also would've spared us from the Nate/Richard/Brody rubbish. As for Phoebe, there's NO denying that Mr. Cardboard was solely thrown together at the last minute just so she could get her "Dream Guy" at the end. Even the in-show explanation of the Elders sending him to her so she could find "True Love" hilariously alludes to this fact. Just terrible. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 23:38:57 GMT -5
If the Elders wanted to give Phoebe true love, they should have liberated Kira the Seer from the Wasteland. As I said, she and Phoebe had way more chemistry than Phoebe and Mr. Cardboard ever did.
Of course, a lesbian relationship would be unthinkable to the 1950's mindset that ran Charmed.
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Post by sol on Oct 6, 2015 9:59:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 11:23:48 GMT -5
Based on the censored words, I assume that this is supposed to read "D!ck Van Dyk3" (as in the TV show), but what does that have to do with the thread? And, this is the first thing you've posted here in almost a month. Very fishy...  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 11:38:43 GMT -5
You're not the only one, Soledad.
Either someone has hacked into Es's account, or she's simply gone insane.
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Post by sol on Oct 6, 2015 13:45:10 GMT -5
OK, I thought it was a pun I wasn't able to understand!
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 6, 2015 18:11:50 GMT -5
Sorry. Just testing out the stupid filter for a different board. Meant to delete it and didn't. Did now.
I'm around, just nothing to say. Bored with the same old, same old knock Kern crap.
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Post by erikamarie on Oct 7, 2015 9:13:42 GMT -5
Welcome back Es, rarely I agree with you but I miss you when you're gone
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