Esmeralda
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 11, 2008 8:24:22 GMT -5
Yeah. The ending should have been about the sisters. That's what the whole d**n show should have been about. Yes, family was important but it was sisterhood that made the show special. It wasn't about Leo and Piper. Sure it was important in storylines but for God's sake it's called "Charmed" not "I Love Piper" (a little play on I Love Lucy there). Exactly. As much as most of us love Piper and Leo, the last moments of Charmed were directed at them them, which should not have been. It should have been all of the Charmed One's, and the PRESENT day ones, as we knew them, who we've come to love over the past 8/5 years. Like you said, sisterhood was what made the show special. But sadly, the show drifted greatly from that, and at least for the last moments of Charmed, we deserved to see what formed our love for the show in the first place. Amen!
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Post by woogyinthehouse on Jan 11, 2008 18:28:08 GMT -5
Just Like any other Prue fans out there I really wish she comes back as she was, I dont prefer her as a Whitelighter or a Ghost either. Still prefer her as a witch. Though it's impossible now... I think. But I have this sort of idea: A new evil power has risen, a very lethal witch rival of Melinda Warren, who sworn to destroy the Halliwell bloodline for good. But then Only The Original Charmed Ones/First three sisters can vanquish her. (No offense to Paige fans) I always prefer the OP3. In this case, the reason that this certain foe is alive coz it needs to be vanquish. Then that's when Prue comes into the picture, I've been thinking along the story of Elektra (of Marvel from the movie) in which she was taken by a very discreet secret organization and trained her as one of theirs, but then they kept her hidden from the charmed and magical radars something like that to be develop. Since Prue is fond of martial arts it would be a great plot. And then she comes and reunites with her sisters to vanquish this evil. But as others stated there should only be three. It's either the OP3 or the ones with Paige. Or if not Prue could stand on her own as a Lethal demon hunter which could make a good spin off including guest from her famiy mebers. Just my idea. Cheers! Thats a god idea, i really like it!! Yo9u should write a fanfic on it lol! I don't know, i think Prue coming back wouldn't have worked because then, there would be four Charmed ones, so her as a recurring cast member like Grams i don't think i would have enjoyed. Her coming as a ghost maybe in the last season would have been good but i have thought if she has been shown in the last episode maybe when Piper and Leo go to the past, she could have done like Patty and Grams did. Am i making sense? If im not and im only rambling please ignore me...
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Esmeralda
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 11, 2008 20:30:10 GMT -5
That's why I've never suggested Prue coming back to life. Since Paige now has the power of the "sister who could move things with her mind", Prue wouldn't. And Prue without her TK wouldn't be Prue. And I wouldn't want Paige to have to die in order for Prue to get it back.
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Post by patmos on Jan 12, 2008 0:17:46 GMT -5
well, yep. Paige doesn't have to die just to fir Prue in the picture if ever again. It's like The New Power of Three. And Prue can now stand in her own as she was the eldest Charmed One.
It's more like Robin (Dick Grayson turning into Nightwing) Prue would be a new fighter, since it's her character. There's a new destiny and duty bestowed upon her. Anyway it's just my opinion.
Or The OP3 remains and Paige becomes their official Whitelighter.
I wish Constance M. Burge can do something about this if ever possible.
p.s. actually I already wrote a fanfic about it, but not exactly Elektra although a little similar.
Cheers
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Post by foxfire on Jan 13, 2008 19:24:17 GMT -5
It's too bad they handled her departure from the show so bad. I think Shannen is the single most important thing to the Charmed mythos. Without her, Holly Marie Combs wouldn't have been cast as Piper after all!
Yes, Brian Krause, Julian McMahon and Rose McGowan are very important but the show started about three sisters. Not about their boyfriends. It's sad really.
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Post by pipercharmedphreak on Jan 14, 2008 0:39:05 GMT -5
I know that I never would have liked there to be a power of four. It just seems too crowded for my liking. It would have been hard to see Prue be a guest star such as Grams--having to leave after an episode. But I do know if that did happen (Prue as a ghost) it probably would have been a tear-jerker for me (to see the reactions between Piper and Prue). Putting reality aside, it would have been great for there to have been a better nod to Prue in the final episode. I know they worked with what they had and the show was currently about the Present PO3 not TOP3, it would have been a nice addition. Too bad we did not get it and there is nothing we can do about..except fan fictions of course!
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Esmeralda
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 14, 2008 13:34:17 GMT -5
I know that I never would have liked there to be a power of four. It just seems too crowded for my liking. It would have been hard to see Prue be a guest star such as Grams--having to leave after an episode. But I do know if that did happen (Prue as a ghost) it probably would have been a tear-jerker for me (to see the reactions between Piper and Prue). Putting reality aside, it would have been great for there to have been a better nod to Prue in the final episode. I know they worked with what they had and the show was currently about the Present PO3 not TOP3, it would have been a nice addition. Too bad we did not get it and there is nothing we can do about..except fan fictions of course! The problem is that it *wasn't*. If it was only about the current ones, there should've been no mention of Patty or Victor or Grams or even including Chris and Wyatt. They all belonged in the last show, but so did a better mention of Prue and of Cole (even Andy and Darryl), who were just as much part of the family as Patty, Victor, Grams, Chris and Wyatt, and if nothing else, Prue deserved a place on the wall, even if it was simply a shot from That Seventies Episode showing Little Prue and Little Piper. If they couldn't afford even *that*, they should've skipped the !@#$%^&*()_)(*&^%$#@! wall, since that would've given Piper time to call her daughter Melinda and her granddaughter Prue and there would be no discussion about that. (Ditto for time for Phoebe to name her daughters and Paige to name hers.) There simply needed to be a much better mention of her, Cole, Andy and Darryl. You would think that Past Grams would've wanted to know what had happened to Prue! I *hated* how they made the ones from the past act like the ghost versions, knowing everything the ghost versions knew, and the ones from the future act like the the ones who came back. They should not have known any of that, unless we saw them blend the way Past Piper blended into Current Piper. It was one of the many things I hated most about the finale. Like why didn't Grams throw a fit when she found out that her grandsons were just that--grandSONS! We remember the fit she threw when Wyatt was first born. There was no reason for her not to throw the same fit now!
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Marqelle
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Post by Marqelle on Jan 15, 2008 0:22:28 GMT -5
This was on another forum...listen.
If they wouldv'e put pictures of everyone the wall would seem to crowded and people would think "wow, they really tried to cram every picture up there" also, who's to say there weren't pictures some other place in the manner, I mean that makes the show more realistic....I wouldn't cram all my pics on one wall.
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Post by vandergraafk on Jan 16, 2008 20:56:14 GMT -5
Boy, that's a stretch. Prue is left out to reduce the appearance of clutter? What weed are these people smoking? Now, maybe if, say, the argument had been made that the picture of Prue as a dog (Look Who's Barking) had been left out in order to avoid the appearance of clutter, I might have paused long enough from gagging with sheer contemptuous laughter in order to dismiss this thought, too. Why make a mountain out of a molehill? It wasn't going to happen because Shannen had no interest or intention of letting her likeness be used. How hard is it to grasp that fact?
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ljones
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Post by ljones on Jan 16, 2008 22:42:21 GMT -5
Boy, that's a stretch. Prue is left out to reduce the appearance of clutter? What weed are these people smoking? Now, maybe if, say, the argument had been made that the picture of Prue as a dog (Look Who's Barking) had been left out in order to avoid the appearance of clutter, I might have paused long enough from gagging with sheer contemptuous laughter in order to dismiss this thought, too. Why make a mountain out of a molehill? It wasn't going to happen because Shannen had no interest or intention of letting her likeness be used. How hard is it to grasp that fact? Are you, by any chance, associated with the series in a professional capacity?
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Post by vandergraafk on Jan 16, 2008 23:32:31 GMT -5
You asked this question at least five times. Each time I've responded with "NO"! I am a school teacher and one time doctoral student in political science who now aims for a masters in mathematics. Can we now put paid to this persistent questioning whose sole purpose, it seems, is to cast down on my ability to fashion an independent argument.
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Marqelle
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Post by Marqelle on Jan 17, 2008 0:09:12 GMT -5
I agree that Shannen didn't want her pics up...I was just comming up with other possibilities....I know it is a stretch to say that they didn't put it up to reduce clutter...I don't actually believe that....I actually don't know why I said it...oh well...
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Post by whitelightertony on Jan 17, 2008 1:53:21 GMT -5
Marqelle, although the legal problems with Shannen were the actual reason for omitting Prue's photo on the wall....from a storytelling perspective, one could argue that there were no pictures of Prue on that wall because Piper had hung other pictures of Prue elsewhere in the manor.
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Post by vandergraafk on Jan 17, 2008 11:38:28 GMT -5
I think that is what Marqelle was indeed saying. I agree that Piper probably would have kept her more deeply sentimental pictures elsewhere. The pictures on the staircase shared a positive tone that brought back vivid memories. Prue's pictures, on the other hand, might well have been a constant reminder to Piper of what she had lost and of the immense difficulty she had in dealing with that loss. That said, surely there could have been one picture, say, Just Harried, when Prue rides off with the wedding cake in tow, on this wall. Again, all is moot when the real world intrudes however!
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Post by chris4wyatt on Jan 20, 2008 16:41:31 GMT -5
hahaha good ideas here *.* but honestely, i was never a huuge fan of prue =X maybe bcoza i was too litle when i started watching with her n everything... so if she ever came back and someone had to leave, i would wish that it would be herself.. =P
and i think the best way of she coming back(just to say hello and byebye) would be as a ghost altho it would be pretty cool the idea that in the end there would be that dog and piper's voice saying that prue got back to help or something like that
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Post by foxfire on Jan 20, 2008 18:25:35 GMT -5
Let's face it... unfortunately... Brad Kern couldn't swallow his pride to ask Shannen to return for anything (be it a picture or not). He made up dumb excuses (i.e. budget) for why she couldn't come back even as a picture in season eight. Why I say it's a dumb excuse is as I've mentionned before... he brought back every possible family member who he could think of whose salary probably would have paid for Shannen's appearance.
He ended it as a sitcom and not as a drama of three sisters.
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Post by vandergraafk on Jan 22, 2008 18:29:57 GMT -5
Ouch!!!! Now, have you read anywhere to the effect that Shannen was willing to appear if only adequate financing could be arranged? I'm sure if Shannen had been willing, there would have been a way.
Mind you. I am not blaming Shannen. Like most people, for her this is probably water under the bridge. Given her friendship with HMC, maybe she could have considered returning. Given the greater likelihood that no one really wanted to revisit that fiasco, I'm certain that it was but a fleeting fancy!
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ljones
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Post by ljones on Jan 23, 2008 17:39:02 GMT -5
Ouch!!!! Now, have you read anywhere to the effect that Shannen was willing to appear if only adequate financing could be arranged? I'm sure if Shannen had been willing, there would have been a way. Mind you. I am not blaming Shannen. Like most people, for her this is probably water under the bridge. Given her friendship with HMC, maybe she could have considered returning. Given the greater likelihood that no one really wanted to revisit that fiasco, I'm certain that it was but a fleeting fancy! Considering that Brad Kern never bothered to ask her to return, we don't really know if Shannen would have been willing. I'm still not completely convinced.
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Post by vandergraafk on Jan 23, 2008 18:40:05 GMT -5
Cast a truth spell!
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pubesy
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Post by pubesy on Feb 4, 2008 7:31:02 GMT -5
i think in the series finale rather than grams being used, piper should have used prue to create the power of three.
or even something more subtle, like having a photograph of her when old leo and piper walk up the stairs, or have her present at phoebe and paiges wedding ceremony.
but i dont think she should ever have had her powers restored to her and somehow she returns to life. thats just TACKY. its a nice thought but there would be no real storyline.
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