If Prue Returned...

[xoFeliciaFinleyxo]

Aug 23, 2008 8:31:11 GMT -5 whitelightertony said:

Doesn't Paramount own the rights to Charmed? Therefore, they would make the decision as to whether they'd select Burge, Kern, or someone else to head up a future incarnation of Charmed.

I agree with that 100%. they should've choose. And if they had to choose whether Prue should've come back or not then they should've said yes. I think that Paramount should've decided. Not Burge or Kern or whoever was the one to decide.

[Holly Combs]

Aug 23, 2008 14:05:53 GMT -5 xoFeliciaFinleyxo said:

Aug 23, 2008 8:31:11 GMT -5 whitelightertony said:

Doesn't Paramount own the rights to Charmed? Therefore, they would make the decision as to whether they'd select Burge, Kern, or someone else to head up a future incarnation of Charmed.

I agree with that 100%. they should've choose. And if they had to choose whether Prue should've come back or not then they should've said yes. I think that Paramount should've decided. Not Burge or Kern or whoever was the one to decide.

i aggre

[whitelightertony]

dont you wonder if prue returnd that she would be mad at paige for completing the power of three?

I don't think Prue would have been mad at Paige; I think she would have been proud of Paige for bringing the family back together.

[weebrian]

i would of loved Prue to come back. especially in forever charmed. I would of liked Prue to come back as a spirit in the end where everyone is together and for her to congratulate them. It would of been a very tearful last episode

[whitelightertony]

Aaron Spelling's company produced Charmed. Even though Aaron Spelling died, someone must have taken over his role in the company.

[colematthews]

I don't think it would've been good for the show if they actually showed her being active in the afterlife.

I think showing photographs and more nostalgia would be good.

[Esmeralda]

It would've been nice if they'd handled Shannen's firing in a more civil manner so that she would've been willing to allow pictures of Prue shown or even appear as a ghost. It would've been nice to see her getting to be corporeal for Wyatt and Chris' wiccanings and getting a chance to hold them. Also, it would've been nice to have a picture of her with Piper on the wall.

And you are SO correct that it wasn't fair to show her in the ads (I'm surprised they did; I thought they couldn't show Prue's image)

If having Paige as part of the Power of Three meant that her sisters could keep protecting innocents, as well as their having protection from the demons, I'm sure Prue would've been thrilled. And Prue had enough pride that I think she would've liked the fact that Paige was never truly accepted as a sister, just as a substitute in the Power of Three.

[micki98]

Jan 4, 2008 4:43:36 GMT -5 craftsbypinky said:

"I!" think, that it's too! Late for Prue to come back even as a White-Lighter since the manor blew up and phoebe or paige died, and piper survived, and "I1" think, that Billy survived.Plus prue had to die so, that paige could come to phoebe, and piper.

I don't care. I love the original Charmed Ones. I love the shared history, childhood, and shared parents that Prue, Piper, and Phoebe shared. I loved when one of the original Charmed sisters (I think it was Phoebe) said, "Remember when we went to camp when we were little, and we all made a promise to be best friends as well as sisters." That's just one of the many things I miss and love about the Original Charmed ones. I love the childhood memories and the nostalgia!

[micki98]

Jan 8, 2008 10:30:29 GMT -5 foxfire said:

I think it's unfortunate that the focus of Charmed strayed so much in its 8-year-run. Even Buffy the Vampire Slayer stayed pretty true to its original concepts (despite going through high school, partly college and major relationships) the show was always about Buffy and her struggles through life.

With Charmed it went from sisters having to deal with their magic to Piper and Leo trying to figure out how to raise their kids.

The finale should have included Prue. Kern could have asked Doherty to return to the show (he didn't have to ask Victor, Patty and Grams to return). After all, the show wasn't about the great guest stars it was about Prue. As I've probably said before, I'd take Shannen Doherty over the various family members in the finale anyday.

Foxfire, as usual, I agree with you.

[micki98]

Jan 10, 2008 18:20:39 GMT -5 foxfire said:

Yeah. The ending should have been about the sisters. That's what the whole d**n show should have been about. Yes, family was important but it was sisterhood that made the show special. It wasn't about Leo and Piper. Sure it was important in storylines but for God's sake it's called "Charmed" not "I Love Piper" (a little play on I Love Lucy there).

Foxfire, I love reading your posts! They're always interesting!

[CharmedFaith]

Prue wasnt meant to be a whitelighter, they are suppose to be pacifist (sp) and Prue is far from that. She isnt there to guide, she is there to lead.

As far as coming back, it wouldve been nice to see pictures of her and lead up to a reunion between her and the sisters. They shouldve had an episode where Piper and Phoebe finally accept that Prue is gone and will never come back to the living. They try to summon Grams for some reason but Prue intervenes instead and helps the out.

And in the last episode, when Piper time travels, she travels to a "lost" episode of Charmed and brings her to the present along with Grams and Patty. She would have a tearful reunion with everyone, they do the big battle. Flash foward to all the scenes in the future, we see her at Phoebes wedding, and we see the older COs summon her for something (like their annual get together and talk, like Grams was doing with Patty after she died)

[Charmedfan]

my opinion i think she would better off being brought back like her mother and grmas

[Esmeralda]

Sept 15, 2008 8:20:49 GMT -5 CharmedFaith said:

Prue wasnt meant to be a whitelighter, they are suppose to be pacifist (sp) and Prue is far from that. She isnt there to guide, she is there to lead.

As far as coming back, it wouldve been nice to see pictures of her and lead up to a reunion between her and the sisters. They shouldve had an episode where Piper and Phoebe finally accept that Prue is gone and will never come back to the living. They try to summon Grams for some reason but Prue intervenes instead and helps the out.

And in the last episode, when Piper time travels, she travels to a "lost" episode of Charmed and brings her to the present along with Grams and Patty. She would have a tearful reunion with everyone, they do the big battle. Flash foward to all the scenes in the future, we see her at Phoebes wedding, and we see the older COs summon her for something (like their annual get together and talk, like Grams was doing with Patty after she died)

Just noticed this and really liked it. Yes, that would've been the proper way to bring Prue back. PCP *kinda* uses that idea in her wonderful fic "Blessed Be" and it works beautifully.

[xxcharmedbellxx]

Yes I think it would have been great if Prue could somehow have returned to the show, perhaps it could have restored the amazing chemistry between the sisters that was lost from season five onwards.
As well as having to resolve the behind the scenes conflict btw the girls (or other reasons), I guess another big issue for the writers would have to be the 'power of three' spell. It would have to be the power of four..... will truly soar....i dunno.

Perhaps the elders, avatars and the angel of destiny could come together in mutual guilt, and feel the urge to make it up to the sisters for sacrificing their day to day lives for the greater good and having to go through great pain, and then pool in all their combined powers to restore Prue's life, so she didn't have to die so young and tragically. She could be reunited with Piper and Pheobe, and build a relationship with Paige.

[Esmeralda]

Hopefully however they'd bring Prue back, they wouldn't have the Power of Four, although if I know Kern, I'm sure they would've. But it's not logical. If the Power of Three is the most powerful connection ever, the Power of Four would be *too* powerful.

If Prue was brought back from the past, since the Charmed Ones were reconstituted, I would think that the second set would still have the Power of Three; Prue would no longer be part of that. She would be able to help out with her powers, but not actually say Power of Three spells with them.

It's the same as if Prue never died and they found Paige. Although Paige would be able to use her whitelighter powers (with Prue alive, she wouldn't receive her Charmed ones), she wouldn't be able to say Power of Three spells with the others--with Prue alive there would be no need to bring her into the Charmed Ones.

It's why I would prefer Prue coming back as something else, like a guide or even just a ghost. I'd prefer her relationship with her sisters being something like what Penny had with Patty in "PreWitched"...where they could summon her, discuss things with her, but not actually have her corporeal.

I hated the fact that they had Grams and Patty corporeal for the absolutely unimportant of reasons. Piper & Leo's wedding or welcoming Paige into the family were one thing, the others, no. Like Grams being a ghost for the wedding, because she was able to do what she had to do as a ghost, she should've remained a ghost all of the other times she appeared, remaining in the circle and not stepping out.

Like the idea of dead men being able to sire children or Piper constantly dying and then constantly coming back to life, the idea of corporeal ghosts totally took away the finality of death. Without that finality, death doesn't sound scary or dramatic and if the living ones are in danger--who cares? If they die, you know that after awhile, they can just be summoned back and then be exactly as they were except always the age they died. Where's the drama in that? Why worry about dying if you know that you're really not going to lose anything? There's no fear in that, no drama.

[Fourever Charmed]

Dec 11, 2008 9:42:52 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Hopefully however they'd bring Prue back, they wouldn't have the Power of Four, although if I know Kern, I'm sure they would've. But it's not logical. If the Power of Three is the most powerful connection ever, the Power of Four would be *too* powerful.

If Prue was brought back from the past, since the Charmed Ones were reconstituted, I would think that the second set would still have the Power of Three; Prue would no longer be part of that. She would be able to help out with her powers, but not actually say Power of Three spells with them.

It's the same as if Prue never died and they found Paige. Although Paige would be able to use her whitelighter powers (with Prue alive, she wouldn't receive her Charmed ones), she wouldn't be able to say Power of Three spells with the others--with Prue alive there would be no need to bring her into the Charmed Ones.

It's why I would prefer Prue coming back as something else, like a guide or even just a ghost. I'd prefer her relationship with her sisters being something like what Penny had with Patty in "PreWitched"...where they could summon her, discuss things with her, but not actually have her corporeal.

I agree with Es that I wouldn't have wanted Prue to come back to life randomly and make the Power of Four. Despite being a Power of Four fanatic in fanfiction, it wouldn't work in the show. But, I've always wanted Prue to reappear as a ghost. (And the idea of them bringing her back from a "lost episode" in S3 for the finale would've been beautiful. But of course, Kern and his pride refused to ask her...)

But in regards to Prue and Paige only having TK one at a time? I don't believe that. Why would Paige be born half witch and have no witch powers? It doesn't make sense and personally, it's a theory I've always hated. We've seen that witches can have powers from the womb and they retain them in the afterlife, so why would Paige and Prue be any different?

Prue's, Piper's, and Phoebe's powers were bound to protect them from Nicholas. This also kept them off the demonic radar.

I find it most likely that Patty did the same with Paige and also bound her powers (or thought she did, but the spell/potion only worked on Paige's witchly inherited powers and not her WL powers). Then when Prue died, Paige got her TK/witch power back when she joined hands with her sisters and officially reconstituted the Power of Three. A case of pre-destiny can be made here: that Prue was meant to die, which is why Paige was also born with telekinetic powers.

[Esmeralda]

Dec 11, 2008 13:40:47 GMT -5 Fourever Charmed said:

But in regards to Prue and Paige only having TK one at a time? I don't believe that. Why would Paige be born half witch and have no witch powers? It doesn't make sense and personally, it's a theory I've always hated. We've seen that witches can have powers from the womb and they retain them in the afterlife, so why would Paige and Prue be any different?

Prue's, Piper's, and Phoebe's powers were bound to protect them from Nicholas. This also kept them off the demonic radar.

I find it most likely that Patty did the same with Paige and also bound her powers (or thought she did, but the spell/potion only worked on Paige's witchly inherited powers and not her WL powers). Then when Prue died, Paige got her TK/witch power back when she joined hands with her sisters and officially reconstituted the Power of Three. A case of pre-destiny can be made here: that Prue was meant to die, which is why Paige was also born with telekinetic powers.

Obviously she didn't bind her powers or Paige wouldn't have been able to orb from the accident that killed her parents. Unless you mean that Patty only bound her witch ones.

But I don't believe that she would have any Warren powers until after one of the Halliwells died. Piper told her that she now had the power to move things with her mind because that was part of the prophecy and now that Prue was gone, Paige had it. With Prue not gone, Paige wouldn't.

I've read some fics that suggest that she had "baby" versions of the three powers, powers that would become fully-formed after a Halliwell death (so, for example, she could nudge something, freeze something for a half-second and have a strong sense of deja vu) To me that makes more sense than her having full TK, since there was no way that anyone would know that it was Prue who would die. That's being very presumptuous.

Now Paige might have had the whitelighter version of TK, where she could direct something like Leo did with the Book of Shadows during S1, but not actually summon it like she could once she was Charmed.

[Fourever Charmed]

Dec 21, 2008 23:54:29 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Dec 11, 2008 13:40:47 GMT -5 Fourever Charmed said:

But in regards to Prue and Paige only having TK one at a time? I don't believe that. Why would Paige be born half witch and have no witch powers? It doesn't make sense and personally, it's a theory I've always hated. We've seen that witches can have powers from the womb and they retain them in the afterlife, so why would Paige and Prue be any different?

Prue's, Piper's, and Phoebe's powers were bound to protect them from Nicholas. This also kept them off the demonic radar.

I find it most likely that Patty did the same with Paige and also bound her powers (or thought she did, but the spell/potion only worked on Paige's witchly inherited powers and not her WL powers). Then when Prue died, Paige got her TK/witch power back when she joined hands with her sisters and officially reconstituted the Power of Three. A case of pre-destiny can be made here: that Prue was meant to die, which is why Paige was also born with telekinetic powers.

Obviously she didn't bind her powers or Paige wouldn't have been able to orb from the accident that killed her parents. Unless you mean that Patty only bound her witch ones.

But I don't believe that she would have any Warren powers until after one of the Halliwells died. Piper told her that she now had the power to move things with her mind because that was part of the prophecy and now that Prue was gone, Paige had it. With Prue not gone, Paige wouldn't.

Yes, I believe Patty attempted to bind Paige's powers and whatever spell or potion she used bound her witch powers and not her whitelighter powers, but I don't think Patty realized that at the time.

And Piper never said anything about Paige only "now" receiving her telekinetic powers. She only said:

Piper: According to the prophecy, the third sister has the power to move things with her mind. Like Prue could.

And even if Piper had said "now," it doesn't prove anything, because Piper didn't even know Paige existed, so how could she know if Paige had telekinetic powers from birth or not?

[Astral Echo]

Her telekinetic side could even simply stem from her whitelighter roots. Which would make us wonder why she was a Charmed One at all - but remember, according to Charmed, a witch didn't have to have an actual power but the power to be able to cast spells and make potions made them a witch. So maybe Paige was simply a witch that could cast spells and make potions and all her actual powers stemmed from a whitelighter side.

[Esmeralda]

Except Paige's TK/O had nothing to do with the whitelighter version of TK, just like Chris' TK didn't (and the fact that his and Paige's were totally different also shows that Paige's is a power that she received, not one she was born with). They didn't just wave their hands above stuff, their hands light up, the item lights up and the thing moves, like what happened with Leo in S1--Chris actually THREW stuff and Paige could summon stuff and then throw it by redirecting. That's not pacifist whitelighter TK, that's Warren TK like Prue's. If you're saying that Paige had it due to being half-whitelighter, then she wouldn't have had her TK/O until after Prue was dead and the Charmed Ones were reconstituted, which is what I'm saying.

Now had Chris had the same type of power (since he also had a whitelighter dad and a witch mom), or if Paige had only had TK and not TK/O so there would be no such thing as whitelighter-influenced powers (DON'T I WISH!), I'd agree with you. But as is, I don't.

And what you wrote, 4Ever, shows the same thing. According to what you wrote, had Phoebe or Piper been the one who died, then Paige could not have become Charmed, because as a half-whitelighter she only had TK--she couldn't replace Piper or Phoebe. So are you saying that if Prue hadn't been the one who died that Paige would not have been able to be Charmed, because she wouldn't have the prophesied power to reconstitute the Charmed Ones?

No, I don't think that makes sense. It would make more sense that at the time that she was Charmed, she would receive the power of the Charmed One she replaces, modified by her whitelighter side. And there would be no reason for her to become Charmed as long as the three original Charmed Ones were still alive.

But then again, speaking of Kern--how can we put that name and "make sense" in the same sentence??