pubesy
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Post by pubesy on Apr 5, 2008 6:12:29 GMT -5
yeah, thats what i was referring to Op3. i guess sarcasm does not translate well here!
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Post by ~:*Destiny*:~ on Apr 5, 2008 11:03:38 GMT -5
I can sorta understand why she lied to her sisters. My highschool sweetheart, my family didn't think he was good for me at ALL. I admit, I lied about seeing him during school, pretended it was another friend, & at times, I did a three way so if my mom wanted to hear the voice of who I was talking to, my female friend would start talking. I did that for 2yrs. 16yrs old to 18yrs old.They turned out they were right, but I thought I was in love. So I can see why Phoebe did that. She didn't believe he hurt her or her sisters. If she believed in her heart he hurt them, she wouldn't of let him go free. So she didn't exactly put there lives in danger. I did the same as well, well I am doing it! LOL! ;D
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Post by The Original P3 on Apr 5, 2008 12:06:00 GMT -5
yeah, thats what i was referring to Op3. i guess sarcasm does not translate well here! If it were sarcastic it would have been translated. It was straightforward about an event that was not made clear.
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Post by ~B@MeLiSsA30@B~ on Apr 5, 2008 13:55:18 GMT -5
Well, I know she didn't know for certain he wouldn't come back to harm them. I just have a thing for defending people. Rather it's Right or Wrong.
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Post by Kit-the-cat on Apr 6, 2008 6:04:58 GMT -5
Actually Shax did need the power of three to be vanquished, as we saw in charmed again part 1/2
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Post by Astral Echo on Apr 6, 2008 10:12:45 GMT -5
Yes and no - it helps. But Piper and Prue successfully vanquished him outside the hospital - that is one of the reason the Source agreed to rewind to time.
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Post by The Original P3 on Apr 6, 2008 15:17:51 GMT -5
Actually Shax did need the power of three to be vanquished, as we saw in charmed again part 1/2 Actually he didn't. As Vengence said, Prue and Piper were able to do it without Phoebe in AHBL. Those 2 alone were powerful enough to vanquish him. If it were just Piper and Phoebe, there wouldn't have been enough power so they did need Paige for that small power boost she gave them in Charmed Again.
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Post by alyssa24 on Apr 7, 2008 4:22:44 GMT -5
I think she is so selfish because she was the one who the all oloved and knew. Also she probably relyied on her sisters too much which could have changed her behaviour and she might have been turned into such a selfish person.
Also people it could have been her HORMONES[glow=red,2,300][/glow]
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Post by vandergraafk on Apr 7, 2008 17:30:32 GMT -5
May I inquire as to why we think Phoebe might have been so selfish? By that I mean, why do we have this thread and not say an equally idiosyncratic thread such as "Why is Piper so snarky?" or "Why is Paige such a ditz?
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Post by ~:*Destiny*:~ on Apr 7, 2008 17:39:18 GMT -5
May I inquire as to why we think Phoebe might have been so selfish? By that I mean, why do we have this thread and not say an equally idiosyncratic thread such as "Why is Piper so snarky?" or "Why is Paige such a ditz? I don't know! ;D
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Post by Holly Combs on Apr 7, 2008 17:50:46 GMT -5
nobody is selfish rely.
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Post by vandergraafk on Apr 7, 2008 17:58:38 GMT -5
Except that a strong case can be made that there were plenty of times during Seasons 5 - 8 when Phoebe acted more like PhoeME. However, she also had her moments of profundity such as when she campaigned against a ban on breast feeding or when she led the Charmed Ones in the confrontation against the Avatars.
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Post by ~:*Destiny*:~ on Apr 7, 2008 18:03:11 GMT -5
Except that a strong case can be made that there were plenty of times during Seasons 5 - 8 when Phoebe acted more like PhoeME. However, she also had her moments of profundity such as when she campaigned against a ban on breast feeding or when she led the Charmed Ones in the confrontation against the Avatars. That is sorta true. But, Phoebe I love! She's my fave character! I take quizzess and they always say that I'm the most like her! But, I may be selfish but not that selfish! I think Phoebe does that because she's originally the youngest she's like that!
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Post by vandergraafk on Apr 7, 2008 18:07:12 GMT -5
And, who's to argue that in the wake of Cole, it wasn't wise for her to focus on her own needs. She obsessed about them at times. And, she was put on a pedestal at the Bay Mirror, especially by one Jason Dean. That's a rush to the head if I never heard of one.
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Post by Astral Echo on Apr 8, 2008 7:42:36 GMT -5
I'd like to make an over riding point that I've tried saying on numerous occasions - they're all selfish.
Phoebe because of her constant search for the father of her child, using her empathy to do so and sometimes even ignoring her Charmed duties because of it. However when she left Prue and Piper to fight Shax, she left with their blessing - it was simply a misjudgement not selfishness.
Piper is selfish because of her long and weiry search for Leo, putting them needs before that of innocents. She also used magic for personal gain in Season Eight (something she wouldn't of done two or three years prior. Odd isn't it!)
Paige - there isn't to pin point why she is selfish but she certaintly not selfless. She used her powers on numerous occasions for her own personal gain and that wasn't just through spells either. It wasn't actually until Season Eight (unlike her sisters) that she became less selfish - helping charges, saving innocents, protecting Billie.
But the biggest most selfish act of all was faking their own deaths, something which they all took part it. You can't just say Phoebe is selfish without looking at her equally selfish sisters!
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Post by Holly Combs on Apr 8, 2008 8:27:35 GMT -5
it can be pubertie
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Post by Astral Echo on Apr 8, 2008 9:39:56 GMT -5
If you mean puberty, I think the sisters were kind of past that stage!
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Post by Kit-the-cat on Apr 8, 2008 9:46:26 GMT -5
Ha god i'm glad u knew what i they ment by that Vengence, i thought they were talking to Pubsey.
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Post by pubesy on Apr 9, 2008 7:11:37 GMT -5
HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post by ljones on Apr 9, 2008 10:26:11 GMT -5
I don't think lieing to her sisters made her selfish. The word selfish means: "devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others." not "a person who tells lies." Phoebe was in love with Cole, love makes you do stupid things and if being in love made her selfish than nearly every person in the world is selfish. Phoebe was just doing what she thought was best - even if it wasn't. Phoebe was never really selfish but she wasn't selfless either - which apparently we believe the sisters should be. NEWSFLASH - they're all selfish. No one can be selfless. Someone can not be selfish as the person standing next them - but everyone is selfish at least once in their life. It's in our human nature to look out for the welfare of oneself rather than the neighbour sitting next to us. Phoebe was no more selfish than Piper or Paige. Prue was the nearest to being selfless but again - she wasn't. Yes Phoebe was selfish with magic but turning reporters in rats isn't? This is one of the most sensible posts I have ever read.
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