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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 23:57:01 GMT -5
Many think this happened because Paige was not raised under the influence of Penny "All Men Are Scum And Should Be Wiped Off The Face Of The Earth" Halliwell. So Paige was not tainted by Penny's warped views like her sisters were.
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Post by adzpower on Sept 29, 2015 3:45:38 GMT -5
I think Henry as well did the world of good for Paige, she seemed to just be coming out from her sisters influence when she met him and he kind of reinforced the whole helping innocents thing that I guess was quite attractive to her.
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Post by sol on Sept 29, 2015 11:22:00 GMT -5
I an interview I read some time ago, Shannen said she had a small joint participation in Charmed and that she'ld come back to Charmed because Brad had written a lot for Prue's character
Probably she was alluding to the triangle and it would be a nice plot a triangle Prue -Phoebe - Cole but the plot'ld lose charm replacing Prue with Paige, pretty much a stranger So they had to revolutionize all they had planned, I believe it'ld be a nightmare to work in those situations
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Post by Sadrick on Sept 30, 2015 9:17:16 GMT -5
I always felt that Cole and Prue had a kind of tense subtle chemistry between the two of them. You could just see it in some of their interactions like when Prue cutely acknowledged Cole with a wink at the masoleum or when Cole pushed Prue to safety in the alternate world. Prue and Cole do have a lot of visual chemistry as well. Darn! Now I'm tempted to ship them together. They both share a common trait of being tragic figures who lost their loves over the long struggle against evil (in Cole's case, his love became spiteful towards him because she couldn't be bothered to try and understand his afflictions anymore). Cole's instability was fueled by the isolation brought about by Phoebe turning against him, whereas Prue felt so insecure about her life outside her wiccan and familial duties that her mind subconsciously developed a clone of her to ease the emotional burden of being a witch and the head of the household. It would be interesting to see them develop a relationship after first coming together as mutually heart-stricken victims of the war that can relate to what the other is going through. In a way, the other might even become an anchor to help keep them from becoming emotionally unstable again; sounds kind of poetic, actually.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 11:20:11 GMT -5
Many feel that Prue and Cole would have made the better couple.
I wonder what would have happened had they gone in that direction.
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Post by ljones on Sept 30, 2015 21:25:15 GMT -5
They certainly had chemistry. And Prue was mature enough to deal with the complexity of being involved with Cole. But . . . both struck me as the introverted types and I don't think a relationship between two introverts is a good idea. I'm still a little leery about the idea of Piper and Leo.
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Post by lilchi7212 on Oct 1, 2015 13:43:10 GMT -5
They certainly had chemistry. And Prue was mature enough to deal with the complexity of being involved with Cole. But . . . both struck me as the introverted types and I don't think a relationship between two introverts is a good idea. I'm still a little leery about the idea of Piper and Leo. That's because Julian and Shannon were seeing each other off screen.
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Post by sol on Oct 2, 2015 5:20:41 GMT -5
They certainly had chemistry. And Prue was mature enough to deal with the complexity of being involved with Cole. But . . . both struck me as the introverted types and I don't think a relationship between two introverts is a good idea. I'm still a little leery about the idea of Piper and Leo. It'ld be intriguing as a triangle but Cole'ldnt fell in love with Prue for too long A 150 year old mercenary could fall in love with a girl full of joy and dreams and vibrancy as Phoebe in her twenties Prue was too tough and determined and rational to hit the feelings of Belthazor
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Oct 2, 2015 19:49:40 GMT -5
The sisters changed after season 3 and became the self whining low centered ladies who moaned constantly about wanting normal lives and not caring about the innocent much then except when it was family although Paige did care slightly more otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 23:40:25 GMT -5
That's when the Innocents became the Ensign Deadmeat characters. Coincidence, I think not.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Oct 3, 2015 6:40:04 GMT -5
All had forgotten what their "purpose" were. To save Innocents and continue their family tradition, yet the private lives were more interesting than the Wiccan life, it seems. The impression was there definitely.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 11:02:09 GMT -5
The sisters changed after season 3 and became the self whining low centered ladies who moaned constantly about wanting normal lives and not caring about the innocent much then except when it was family although Paige did care slightly more otherwise. Well put. This is why I believe the show's decline started long before Season 5 or even Shannen's firing. You could already see Kern's influence starting to creep into the show in Season 3. The seeds were already sown for the horrible, selfish creatures Piper and Phoebe would become later on.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Oct 3, 2015 14:50:38 GMT -5
All had forgotten what their "purpose" were. To save Innocents and continue their family tradition, yet the private lives were more interesting than the Wiccan life, it seems. The impression was there definitely. Which's why fans prefer either the show ended season 4 or read fan fictions written where how the sisters were and what they did innocent wise seasons 1, 2 & 3 were not lost afterwards so there still the people they knew and loved throughout. Well put. This is why I believe the show's decline started long before Season 5 or even Shannen's firing. You could already see Kern's influence starting to creep into the show in Season 3. The seeds were already sown for the horrible, selfish creatures Piper and Phoebe would become later on. Thanks Betty. I still liked season 3 despite the little niggerly bits like Phoebe choosing Cole over her sisters for e.g. as it still had some of the things that made Charmed, Charmed it was when Piper and Phoebe started moaning about wanting normal lives season 4 and even Paige sometimes a little and then more a lot later on that bugged me more actually.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 18:06:55 GMT -5
I think a lot of people, including Rose McGowan, would have been perfectly happy to see Charmed end with Season Four.
They should have taken the Angel Of Destiny's offer. The End.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 19:07:46 GMT -5
Thanks Betty. I still liked season 3 despite the little niggerly bits like Phoebe choosing Cole over her sisters for e.g. as it still had some of the things that made Charmed, Charmed it was when Piper and Phoebe started moaning about wanting normal lives season 4 and even Paige sometimes a little and then more a lot later on that bugged me more actually. Yeah, Season 3 was kind of a "transitional" season. You could see Kern's influence starting to creep in, but the show had not completely gone off the rails yet. This was also true for Season 4, but less so. Season 5, on the other hand, was 100% crap. It was all downhill from that point on.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Oct 3, 2015 20:12:52 GMT -5
Yeah, Season 3 was kind of a "transitional" season. You could see Kern's influence starting to creep in, but the show had not completely gone off the rails yet. This was also true for Season 4, but less so. Season 5, on the other hand, was 100% crap. It was all downhill from that point on. Exactly so.
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Post by adzpower on Oct 4, 2015 4:11:41 GMT -5
I mean tbh I can kind of see what Kern was going for with season 5, Charmed had been pretty dark for a few years and maybe not just himself but the cast and the crew wanted something a bit more light-hearted? I mean that's no excuse for the messes in continuity and the general mistakes about the mythology but still, like I said, I can kind of see why they went in that direction even if they didn't execute it as well they could have. You don't have to introduce nymphs and leprechauns to make a show more fun.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Oct 4, 2015 6:12:37 GMT -5
Indeed. As much as I love mythology and some other magical creatures, I'm fine when they stay in their area and not being moved, like Valhalla for example.
I can also understand that people grow up and mature but with Phoebe and her column, that was way too quick if you ask me, especially in transition from S4 to S5. Piper's whining and her normal life. Well, it's okay but for her normal is being a witch. End of story. All their children will one day continue this tradition, no matter what.
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Post by adzpower on Oct 4, 2015 8:28:34 GMT -5
Yeah Phoebe especially really declined as a character in season 5, Paige and Piper were still pretty normal for them but Phoebe had almost completely changed, from the abnormal hatred of Cole to the more revealing outfits to the random celebrity status that seemed to come out of nowhere, I mean really, how many advice columnists get famous from one little section in a news paper? I'd understand if maybe she'd become a weather girl or a news reporter but a columnist? It's unlikely. And sadly she definitely let it go to her head, her inflated idea of her own self-importance sky rocketed, heck, even her powers declined at first until she calmed down the work load.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 9:53:31 GMT -5
Yeah Phoebe especially really declined as a character in season 5, Paige and Piper were still pretty normal for them but Phoebe had almost completely changed, from the abnormal hatred of Cole to the more revealing outfits to the random celebrity status that seemed to come out of nowhere, I mean really, how many advice columnists get famous from one little section in a news paper? I'd understand if maybe she'd become a weather girl or a news reporter but a columnist? It's unlikely. And sadly she definitely let it go to her head, her inflated idea of her own self-importance sky rocketed, heck, even her powers declined at first until she calmed down the work load. Season 5 was the season when Alyssa Milano became a producer. Coincidence, I think not.
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