Charmed In the Future

[ShantaD]

in the case of the other spin-offs the characters that were spun off were regular characters. But with Chris and Wyatt we know very little about what they are and what kind of personality they have. Chris had a personality in season 6 but does that character exist anymore? There is a lot of uncertainties that would be associated with these characters and a lots of questions.

"Empty Nest" and "The Jeffersons" were very successful spinoffs based on characters that only occasionally appeared. That actually can work to a spinoff's advantage, since the writers have much more freedom in how they write the characters. Frasier was a regular on "Cheers" but they changed a lot for the spinoff. The writers created a brother he didn't have and resurrected his father who had died.

What happened to the other sisters siblings?

Who cares? They aren't part of the spinoff. They don't matter. They are off living their own lives. Same thing with the sisters. They can be mentioned occasionally, but with the exception of Piper and Leo, they don't need to ever be seen.

Spinoffs are separate from the original show. They aren't a continuation of it. They are designed so even those who never watched the original show can still become interested in the new show. The most successful ones have virtually nothing in common with the parent show. I think people who want all these other family members to appear seem to really want Charmed to continue in a new form. That is not what a spinoff is and would doom it to failure.

Charmed fans are likely to check out any spinoff. If the writing is good and the characters likeable, they will continue to watch. The key is to get new viewers who either stopped watching Charmed or who never watched. These viewers would make or break the show and they don't care about any cousins and most aren't much interested in the Charmed Ones, or else they would have been watching "Charmed" all these years.

[roseyc]

Shanta wrote:

I think people who want all these other family members to appear seem to really want Charmed to continue in a new form.

I guess your right about this for most part. I sincerely liked Charmed. I like how Chris worked with all the members of the cast and I think that Wyatt did the same in the little time that he was on the series. I thought since just half of season 5 onward, the writing and the concept of the show changed which effected the acting and the way the actors approached the show. They knew and it showed in their acting that the show was steered toward attracting the teen crowd. Which I think was all wrong. They played to their weakness instead of their strengths. In season 4 which was the best written and best acted season they had they wrote intelligent dramas that went along with the arc of the previous seasons. The ratings I think dicated the change that took place in the seasons to come and it showed that the dip was not because the way the show was written and acted it was because of Shannen Doherty departure. They should have stayed the course and wheathered the storm instead they caved in whether in be from pressure from the network or whatever they did change. Which effect the core fans and the new fans wasn't enough to offset this trend of goofy fantasy creatures. I sincerely hope this spin-off comes about what you say that nobody cares about the other siblings then the Charmed Ones are stand alone stories and Wyatt and Chris are just ordinary witches. Maybe I just don't understand how they can go and not have the Charmed Ones involved unless something dramatic happens to them and changes the course of events. This other way if it happens will only have a short run because too many questions will be left out. Just like Charmed failed to do this; this concepts will create it's own unanswered questions in a different manner. Your banking a lot on the writing and that has been in question on Charmed and now you expect this to dramatically be rectified now. That is a lot of wishing.

[vandergraafk]

So, did I understand this correctly? Somebody out there would like to see a Charmed Sons spin-off based on the interaction between Chris and Wyatt that we saw in Chris-Crossed? Hunky Chris versus Evil Wyatt? I am confused.

If I were writing yet another fan fiction - and maybe I shall have to - I would start by rescuing Chris before he dies in It's a Bad, Bad World Part II and have him projected into a future by Billie where he and Wyatt can team up to fight evil. Maybe, we can have some tempting female demons try to turn Chris evil from time to time. Whatever!

[agentbrody7224]

Hey whats up?

[starr]

I would love to see a spin-off with Chris and Wyatt. However, I am not using it to decide if Piper and Leo had a daughter. I still think it was their daughter. I realize not everyone agrees and that is perfectly fine. I don't think them having a sister in the finale of Charmed would ruin anything for a spin-off. She doesn't need to be a huge part of it if there is a spin-off. It would still be about Chris and Wyatt. Anyway that's just my opinion.

[vandergraafk]

Whether Prudence Melinda exists or not is immaterial, although there are some who feel the dynamics would change. I disagree especially because it's a lot easier for boys to ignore sisters, especially if she's the youngest and an only girl. Besides, send her out of state and off to college. That way she wouldn't interfere. Moreover, whatever she is, she won't have the same firepower as Chris and Wyatt and hence would not be needed. But, it's always good to have a family member on reserve. Remember Paige?

[spiritsas]

The new show would not, could not really be a continuation of Charmed; it's a spinoff, with it's own concepts and ideas. Charmed, among other things, was (in a big way) about empowering young women and provided them as strong role models. They didn't need men, although they wanted them from time to time, but they could be on their own and live their own lives. The Charmed Sons will have to take a different road here, obviously.

On another note, various siblings could appear and leave as guest stars or in small roles. Why not. Even HMC and BK could make an appearance now and again to get them out of trouble. After all, that's what parents do. The show would still be about the boys.

[vandergraafk]

Agreed!

[Lisa M]

spiritkas said:

The new show would not, could not really be a continuation of Charmed; it's a spinoff, with it's own concepts and ideas. Charmed, among other things, was (in a big way) about empowering young women and provided them as strong role models. They didn't need men, although they wanted them from time to time, but they could be on their own and live their own lives. The Charmed Sons will have to take a different road here, obviously.

On another note, various siblings could appear and leave as guest stars or in small roles. Why not. Even HMC and BK could make an appearance now and again to get them out of trouble. After all, that's what parents do. The show would still be about the boys.

I wouldn't mind a cousin appearing. I would actually love to write off the flashforward of the future as the sisters imagining what their futures might be like, rather than set in stone. Reason being, I think if Phoebe had just one daughter, they could bring her in for a guest appearance (not as a regular, just a guest). If they could get Amber Tamblyn to play her and The Charmed Sons was a hit, I think they could spin her off into her own show as well (and I adore Amber Tamblyn since I watched her grow up on General Hospital. I think she'd be perfect as Phoebe's daughter, provided we can revise the whole Cupid crap, as I hate the concept of Cupid--they remind me too much of fairies and leprechauns and other stupid magical creatures. I'd actually prefer to learn her dad was Cole and she was half demon. That would be something). I had been thinking that it might be interesting to see her as a character whose only power was premonitions, and give her some friends that were also witches. They wouldn't have any kind of family power, but they could just have a coven and fight evil using their individual powers.

Of course, the Charmed Sons would have to be made first and be a hit.

[roseyc]

I think they could incorporate the finale of Charmed with the Spin-off. Let's say that since we don't know Paige's children and have no attachment to them and Phoebe's children as well as Piper's daughter they would all or some or a few of them would be killed in the new demon regime. Which forces Chris and Wyatt with their new agenda since the power of three is no more they would be vulnerable. The one thing they have to do in the spin-off is make death seem somewhat real and not be healed at moments notice and make the demons real threats not just some british mogul who we don't care about and is soon forgotten once the show is over. They need demons like Barbus and Tempest. Maybe not the same people playing although if Billy Drago is still available he was great. This is just some of things that could be on the show

[Stormythomas]

roseyc said:

The one thing they have to do in the spin-off is make death seem somewhat real and not be healed at moments notice and make the demons real threats not just some british mogul who we don't care about and is soon forgotten once the show is over.

I definitely agree that death has to seem more real. I don't want it to be like it to be how charmed was in the end. It seemed to me that death wasn't something to fear anymore. Either you were healed or time reversed itself. Death, itself, lost it's threat. I don't want death to be that reversable.

[spiritsas]

Yes, it must be more real in order to capture that darker side of what they are doing, which is fighting truly evil beings. Whether or not they continue the protecting the innocent concept, I'm not so sure. Or trying to keep the balance between good and evil, which is interesting since TCO killed off so many, including the Source. As the demons said in the next to last Charmed episode, they would need to rebuild and would be back to pose a threat to their offspring.

But what would be the story's main line. I think it will fail if it just tries to be more of the same demon vanquishing, saving innocents. That was their mother's and aunt's deal. Certainly, on some level, they will be doing some of this, but I honestly think they need another twist to the overall story of the show. It will be called a Supernatural copy cat, if it goes darker, but it needs to do so. Personally, I always wished they would have Charmed and Supernatural cross paths before Charmed ended, but that's another story.

The Charmed Sons need a mission, or two, as overarching story lines they keep coming back to, even if they diverge from them from time to time. What this overarching story line or lines are, I'm not sure.

[Lisa M]

Charmed was--or started out being about--three sisters that happened to be witches. It lost it's way when it tried to become more of a magical Sex and the City with some Harry Potter thrown in.
I think the spin-off needs to be two brothers that happen to be witches, that fight evil without some of the advantages their mom and her sisters had. Take some of Wyatt's powers away, so things are more challenging for them. Make death a final thing--the Angel of Death needs to show them that they try to reverse it, something worse can happen. Maybe they can't reverse it. It's only temporary. Also, I think the spin-off needs to be more dramatic than Charmed was the last few seasons. Not dark--truly dark shows never last past a season. There aren't any that have. But it needs to be dramatic. There's a big difference between dark and dramatic. Buffy seasons 1 through most of season 5 was dramatic. Seasons six and seven (and Joyce's death in season 5) were dark and turned off a lot of the audience.

I think the guys being witches fighting much different types of demons than the Supernatural boys is plenty to keep it from being a copy of Supernatural. The only elements it shares in common with that show are that it's two brothers that fight demons. Just being witches is a huge difference. As is their background and the use of magic in general by the guys and demons alike. The similarities to Supernatural are actually a good thing, because that could help to attract their audience to at least check it out and compare, but they'll find that it's not the same show as Supernatural, that Chris and Wyatt face different kinds of challenges and deal with it very differently since they have powers and the demons they are fighting have powers.
Charmed did very well in it's first three seasons. The spin-off needs to aim towards garnering the amount of audience Charmed had then.

[rebeccamatthews]

Sam is the only one I can remember on SN that has any kind o supernatural powers. He has shown the ability of telekinesis and premonitions. But the difference with a CS spinoff is that the two borthers already magical powers, powers that have already been seen.

[agentbrody7224]

hello!

[Stormythomas]

*waves* Hey...

umm.... this really isn't the place for introductions......

As for the future of charmed I definitely agree that Wyatt is too powerful. There are many reasons how his powers can be reduced. Maybe some of bound as a child. I figure having a child (especially a teenager) with all that power would be hard, or impossible to control. Maybe some of his powers where bound for that reason......

I don't knew, but I do think something needs to happen, or else their would be no knew threat for the boys.

[misskitty66]

i'd like to see a spin off maybe of alllll of the charmed kids they each had 3 kids ... so would the power of three be triple bad... bad meanin good.... just a thought really...

[Stormythomas]

I don't know...

having all those kids would be...ummm...'over-crowded' I guess is the word...

I would like to see only Chris and Wyatt because those are the two characters we already fall in love with.

[Xenith]

Yeah like has been said before, occasional guest stars should be the ideal role for most of their cousins.
Actually the one other person from Charmed I wouldn't mind having as a semi-regular is one of Darryl's sons... (Michael I think was the name of the eldest from one of the spoiler scripts [Oh My Goddess Pt1]. Though I don't recall any names being mentioned in any episodes.)

[ShantaD]

I only want Chris and Wyatt as the leads, with any other characters as supporting characters. With just two leads there is time to fully develop both the characters and the story each week. With several characters there isn't enough time to do a good job of either. Look at Charmed the last season: each episode had Paige and Henry doing one thing, Phoebe and Dex/Cupid doing something else, Billie and Christy and their story (I should have listed that one first, it took up the most time) and Piper and whatever little time they gave her. None of the sisters had enough time to develop their own stories (Paige and Phoebe's marriages to Henry and Cupid seemed rushed and out of nowhere), none of the episodes could tell a fully developed story. There were too many characters, each doing their own thing.