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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 12:49:36 GMT -5
Hahaa, basically everyone then?   LOL yes  Its like Esmeralda said. Everyone at one point in time on the show became irritating. |
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Post by esperanzaa on Feb 25, 2014 15:55:56 GMT -5
Billie
Christy
Chris
the Elders when the took away Leo's powers
Sheridan
Phoebe, after she had this vision quest, that changed her character so much
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Post by Astral Echo on Mar 3, 2014 17:47:43 GMT -5
I actually liked Inspector Sheridan, I just feel she was let down by some iffy writing at times.
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Post by Darkhorse Christian on May 7, 2014 21:05:18 GMT -5
You're exactly right, Iamthesun. Had they decided to give up their powers and their destiny in "Witch Way Now?" especially after suffering both Prue's death and the whole mess with Cole and Phoebe, that would be one thing. But they decided to keep them. That means that being Charmed should've come first. So, yes, I have plenty against Charmed Ones in love - because they were horribly selfish, self-centered people when they were. They didn't even think that much about the guy; just themselves. Had being in love made them better people, better Charmed Ones, that would be one thing. But that never happened with any of the Halliwells. At least for Prue, Piper and Phoebe, I put most of the blame on the manhater who raised them - Grams. Paige doesn't have that excuse, but then she's the only one where being in love made her a better person and a better Charmed One - but only with Henry, not with all of the others, and especially not with Brody when she acted more like S4 Phoebe than S8 Paige.. With Henry, she never turned her back on her duty, the way Phoebe came close to doing with Coop - and if we're to believe the ending, Paige is the only one who kept at it after the Ultimate Battle. Both Piper and Phoebe were too busy with their own lives.... On the matter of the open misandrist known as Grams, as well as on a "hey, look who just popped in again with an actual post for the first time in months" note, I would like to thank Obscurus Lupa for playing a clip of something Grams said in "Witchstock" during her season 6 review. At that moment, hearing this excerpt straight from the show and remembering just how deeply she despises men, and realizing that she actually gets away with this without any objections whatsoever, completely erased any chance I might have had of respecting Grams as a character. She just openly told Piper that men are literally worth about as much as silverware! As a matter of fact, she pretty much says she's been telling Piper and her sisters this FOR YEARS! Why doesn't Piper say anything about it? She's a wife and a mother, specifically a mother to a son, the first Charmed One to legitimately become so. In fact, the two had verbally clashed about this already back in season 5 when Grams refused to take part in Wyatt's Wiccaning because he was a boy! Oh, and she ended up changing her mind about that thanks to Armand the Necromancer of all people coming back into her life. How? His seductions and Paige's truth spell allowed her to come to terms with the whole truth about their relationship—they had a genuine love, which she still felt to that day, but her love for her family was stronger to the point she couldn't allow him to eat the ancestral Halliwell spirits in order to come back to life. This was supposed to mark the successful breaking of her shell as the perpetual man-hater. (On a sidenote: Yes. In the very same season in which Cole's character was mercilessly buried as nothing but an evil yandere for the sake of making sure Phoebe didn't look bad, the show openly admits in the strongest indirect way possible that while his and Phoebe's love was star-crossed because of his dark side, this did not make him the devil responsible for everything bad that ever happened in her world. And within a year, this whole sequence promptly amounts to nothing.)
Furthermore, Piper's husband, an Elder, obviously a man, and his replacement as her whitelighter, also a man, both walked into the scene immediately after this statement. How did Leo and Chris not hear Grams say that? And if they did, how did they not say anything? For that matter, how did Piper not say anything? Not only does it make zero sense that Grams still hates men to the point of calling us utensils, it makes even less than zero sense that she could even possibly entertain this notion in front of Piper, with Chis and Leo nearby, and not get promptly either snarked at for it or told to cut the crap. Back when I originally watched this episode the line didn't particularly stick out to me. I just thought of her straw manhating as nothing more than an unfortunate gag, one which I thought the show had understood as being obviously wrong. But over the years I think I've gotten better about catching misandry, hypocrisy, and other forms of moral dissonance in the media I watch than I was in the past. My opinion of Grams subsequently lowered in droves as a result, and that was before I caught this quote again. Let me spell out the unfortunate implications here. If the genders were reversed. If a dead man said something so blatantly belittling about women, in talking to his grandson, who happened to be both a husband with a lovely wife and a father to a beautiful little baby girl, with said lovely wife appearing immediately afterward and thus proving she was close by enough to hear the old prick, and yet they both moved onto the next subject without even looking like they wanted to call him out on his crap. Do you have any idea how quickly and violently feminists would be calling out the sexism inherent in such a scene? Gender-flipped Charmed would've never made it to the season six finale. This is what Grams just got away with pretty much scot free. Definitely scot fee in-universe, and while her sexism against men is well-noted out-of-universe, it's never drawn even close to the outcry Robin Thicke has been getting pelted with ever since "Blurred Lines", for example. And this particular line, this open declaration in defiance of all continuity that a) she thinks men are subhuman, and b) the family's okay with that, has never been expressly called out for the horse manure that it is, at least that I know of. Penelope Halliwell is a card-carrying hater of men who seems to respect absolutely nothing except for female magical power. As a result, she has imparted an influence upon her granddaughters, the lead characters of this show, which results in the very worst of who they are. And the show treats all of this as being totally okay. Because GIRL POWER. By a mile, Penny Halliwell is the most irritating character to me now in the history of Charmed. |
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Post by ljones on Sept 20, 2014 14:21:33 GMT -5
Darkhorse Christian, I have complained about this aspect of Grams' character for years.
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Post by ljones on Jan 23, 2015 2:11:23 GMT -5
Prue wasn't right. She forced her help on the guy, instead of letting him pay the consequences of his decision, because he was a human and her former classmate.
If the sisters allow their powers to remain tied to their emotions, then they are lousy magic practitioners in my eyes. How stupid can they be?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 18:19:15 GMT -5
@ Darkhorse Christian
Quality post. Couldn't agree more.
Grams' man hating was vile. It also never made sense to me considering how much she loved Allen.
At one point I was excited when Grams was to make an appearance... later on I wished the horrid bigot just stayed in the afterlife permanently.
Other characters that I found irritating: Dex, Lesley and Kyle.
Oh and another one for me is The Source as played by Peter Woodward. The nasal voice, the scenery chewing, he just got on my nerves. Nothing menacing about him for me.
Yeah there were times when everyone annoyed me to be honest.
Phoebe and Piper bugged me constantly in later years: Phoebe's never ending whining about her boring damn column/love life and Piper's irrational tantrums at the slightest inconvenience.
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Post by xidlersdreamx on Jul 25, 2015 20:56:11 GMT -5
I HATE Billie! After rewatching I hate her even more! First of all it's not your job to go around deciding who deserves to be a witch or not. Ok the Charmed ones are selfish because they have lives?! How is Piper wanting Leo back or Phoebe's desire for a family any different from her little crusade to find her terrible sister?! Oh and taking the powers from a todler wasn't selfish or wrong either, right? Im so pissed she didn't die with her sister! It pisses me off even more that they just forgave her and have a relationship with her even into the comics. They should have kicked her out of thier lives or stripped her of her powers. Ugh just seeing her on screen pisses me off!
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Jul 26, 2015 13:14:55 GMT -5
The reason Billie was the way she was is because of the way she was written.
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Post by codebox on Jun 28, 2019 13:22:16 GMT -5
Virtually all the Charmed Ones have been irritating. You'd be lying if you haven't been bugged by any of their notable traits. Though personally I do like Prue and Paige as I feel there's aren't as apparent (mostly with Prue) however out of the Charmed Ones Phoebe I find the most consistently irritating. And its due to one thing her constant fixation on things. Whenever Phoebe has her priorities on something (namely Cole or her Advice Column) that priority is above everything else including her own family. And the way she obsesses over said priority is nothing short of irritating.
I mean who wants to go through an episode where Phoebe's bitter because Prue/Paige senses something's off with Cole then spends the episode as a hateful shrew because someone doesn't agree with her priorities? Or how about whenever there are demon problems going around or dire circumstances Phoebe's more concerned with meeting a column deadline or finding a man. Her column is literally an excuse to not do anything!
Piper is annoying as well. I mean how many times is she going to be a hypocrite about a normal life and refuse to bind her kid's powers? Also Piper in Season 8 is easily the worst character. Though I do tolerate her slightly more than Phoebe. If only because Phoebe's obsessive nature is far more irritating and consistent. Paige really only annoyed me during the last half of her arc with Brody.
If I had to make a list though
PhoeMe Halliwell (Season 3-8)
Piper Halliwell (Season 6 and Season 8)
The Elders
Baby Wyatt
Dan Gordon
Inspector Sheridan
Coop
Elise Rothman
Penny Halliwell (Seasons 5-8)
Christy Jenkins
Billie Jenkins
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Post by gleamingroses on Jun 30, 2019 23:07:50 GMT -5
All the Charmed Ones can be irritating at times. Even though Piper is my favorite character I'm going to have to give it to Season 8 Piper specifically. Don't get me wrong Piper in Seasons 6-7 is annoying as well, but Piper feels so different in Season 8, almost like she was a literal demon shapeshifted into her. In Season 8 Piper is so cruel, mean-spirited and just completely apathetic. Sure Piper has been aggressive and insensitive, but season 8 turns it up to degrees of sociopathy.
She's threatening to blow people up (like in Kill Billie Vol 1 she turs reporters into rodents simply because they annoyed her then makes a comment at Paige about blowing them up. It literally takes Paige to talk her into turning them back, Piper's been insensitive before, but this feels completely different even from her own demeanor. She even makes a joke about blowing up Billie if she failed at a mission with Paige's response "Ehhh" when Billie questioned it. Even when they first meet Billie her first response is to blow her up!)
She's constantly hateful and mean, even more than normal. Again in Kill Billie Vol 1 her verbal abuse toward Leo is at its worst. One of the most irritating lines from Piper is "Well I do, and I'm older so what I think counts more" and Piper says that in a hateful tone. I literally wanted Billie to telekinesis her across the room. Then there's the fact she shows no hesitation to attacking Billie when she finds out she's been used by Christy simply because Billie and Christy being their obstacle inconveniences her getting Leo back.
Of course I hate Phoebe too. Phoebe in Seasons 3-7 is just as bad as Season 8 Piper. Her constant fixation on wanting men, the fact her advice column takes lead over anything, the fact she lets innocents die through sheer neglect. Her obsessing over something consistently, and the fact she's a giant sexist hypocrite.
To me the most irritating characters are
Piper (Season 8)
Phoebe (Seasons 3-7)
Inspector Sheridan
Sandra the Elder
The Elders in general
Wyatt
Christy
Season 5-8 Penny
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Its like Esmeralda said. Everyone at one point in time on the show became irritating.
