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Post by ljones on Mar 22, 2009 3:27:02 GMT -5
The sisters' powers was all about their psi abilities like levitation, precognition or freezing.
Spell casting, potions or invoking the assistance of another power also played strong roles in their use of magic. It's apparent that the Halliwells' real power centered around the Power of Three and NOT their psi abilities.
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Post by Piper Sorelli Halliwellღ on Mar 22, 2009 14:58:52 GMT -5
I just watched We're Off to see the Wizard and I think that some of the reason of why Cole was the source is Phoebes fault. Cole was going to give his powers over to the Wizard but Phoebe was the one who killed the wizard. If Phoebe hadn't killed the wizard then Cole wouldnt have ended up being the Source. Also, Paige tried to warn Phoebe over and over again that something strange was going on with Cole and that it could be possible that he was evil again. Phoebe chose to not listen to Paige. Phoebe shouldnt have been so quick to think that Paige was wrong. Also in The Three Faces of Phoebe she gets all of the signs that something weird was going on with Cole. For starters her future self does at first slap him as soon as she sees him. Also Cole looks so different, he looks really tired and like hes going through hell. She also knew that he wasnt telling her something and she only asks him once if hes hiding something from her and when he says no shes chooses to not question it again. I get that she trusts him and believes him but I still think that she should have been more sucipicous. It was just really obvious that something about him was different with the brand new Porshe car, the Hawaii trip for Leo and Piper, the no orbing rule for Paige, and how Paige first met the vampire at Coles apartment. I just think that Phoebe should have noticed all of the weird things going on with Cole. If she noticed it in time she could have helped Cole un-become the Source. But I'm not even sure she would have even done that because when it comes down to it she was pretty willing to join him in the Underworld. She was the one who decided to be with him, she was the one who vanquished the Wizard because if she didnt do that Cole wouldnt have been the Source anymore and they could have been together.
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Post by Piper3 on Jun 2, 2009 14:59:44 GMT -5
Your right it was her fault in a way. She could have stopped it but she didn't.
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Post by ljones on Jun 3, 2009 16:00:45 GMT -5
But Cole has to assume most of the blame - along with the Source and the Seer - for becoming the new Source.
You mean the spirits of the Warren witches. One of the words in this spell:
is WRONG.
They should have said WARREN witches, not Halliwell witches. Patty was the first Halliwell witch in the Warren line.
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Post by Piper3 on Jul 27, 2009 1:30:15 GMT -5
But Cole has to assume most of the blame - along with the Source and the Seer - for becoming the new Source. quote] What choice did he have? |
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Post by ljones on Jul 27, 2009 23:28:59 GMT -5
But Cole has to assume most of the blame - along with the Source and the Seer - for becoming the new Source. quote] What choice did he have? Why did he have to assume that the sisters would have never vanquish the Source without his help? |
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Post by Piper3 on Aug 7, 2009 10:30:44 GMT -5
Because they wouldn't have. He had 2/3 powers. Which were the active powers. He didn't have a choice. Plus phoebe could have stopped it, Cole was giving the powers to the wizard but Phoebe told him not to. So clearly its Phoebes fault.
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Post by babbytigger on Aug 7, 2009 11:07:27 GMT -5
no because he killed the last source and then be come it
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Post by foxfire on Aug 23, 2009 17:36:04 GMT -5
I don't know if it's mentioned here (I didn't read through everything, sorry guys), but when the Source gets the girls' powers (the "active" ones) does he get Paige's orbing abilities? It's been a while since I've seen the episode and can't remember. But shouldn't logic state that he can't get them? I mean, the active powers are Whitelighter powers... and you can't really steal those like you can a witch's power.
Either way, it's all a huge mess. The whole Cole becoming the Source was inevitable. He had to turn evil and be vanquished so the show could continue. If he had been good, they'd have to find some other reason for Phoebe to dump him. (If the show had gone on for 8 seasons [with Cole/Phoebe still together], their relationship would have lost all its steam VERY quickly).
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Post by Piper3 on Aug 24, 2009 1:03:30 GMT -5
Yes he got Paiges orbing powers. He orbed a crystal to break the circle. As for their relationship getting boring I dont think so. Piper and Leos went the whole time so could Phoebe and Coles.
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Post by dylan345 on Aug 24, 2009 11:41:17 GMT -5
But wasn't Paige's ability to call objects to her more related to her witch powers? I always thought it was that way, and her being able to orb her body like Leo was a more of a whitelighter power. The Source never orbed himself, so I don't think he got her whitelighter powers.
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Post by ljones on Aug 24, 2009 12:22:43 GMT -5
I don't know if it's mentioned here (I didn't read through everything, sorry guys), but when the Source gets the girls' powers (the "active" ones) does he get Paige's orbing abilities? It's been a while since I've seen the episode and can't remember. But shouldn't logic state that he can't get them? I mean, the active powers are Whitelighter powers... and you can't really steal those like you can a witch's power. Either way, it's all a huge mess. The whole Cole becoming the Source was inevitable. He had to turn evil and be vanquished so the show could continue. If he had been good, they'd have to find some other reason for Phoebe to dump him. (If the show had gone on for 8 seasons [with Cole/Phoebe still together], their relationship would have lost all its steam VERY quickly). Why would Cole and Phoebe's relationship would have lost all of its steam, and not Piper and Leo's relationship? Why would they have to get rid of Cole and Phoebe's relationship? Why not allow them to endure a series of relationship problems, as Piper and Leo had? |
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Post by foxfire on Aug 24, 2009 13:45:33 GMT -5
My reasoning for Phoebe and Cole's relationship losing steam is based on the fact that their relationship was all about passion and sex whereas Piper and Leo's was more about love and devotion. Just look at how often we see Phoebe and Cole make out and how often we see Cole's bare chest compared to Piper and Leo's displays of affection. I mentioned that thing about Paige's powers because in "Power of 3 Blondes", the youngest blonde doesn't get any of Paige's orbing abilities (the telekinetic orbing included) because they aren't "Charmed"/"Witch" powers. Inconsistencies are a b*tch.  |
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Post by Piper3 on Aug 24, 2009 22:13:36 GMT -5
Orbing is orbing whether you can orb objects to you or orb yourself, either way it is orbing. As for Phoebe and Coles relationship; okay they were a little more intimate but there was just as much love.
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Post by bigcharmedfan123 on Aug 30, 2009 10:11:08 GMT -5
I think that it was the seers fault to start with then Coles then phoebes each person played a part in it. but i dnt like the way phoebe had treated Cole. he was trying to give up the sources powers to wizard in order to save their realationship. a;lthough i do think Cole could of tried a little harder. which proves that he really loved her. and phoebe threw it back in his face. Cole knew that their only chance of them ever having a happy ending is if they both be good which he mentions in an earlier episode. i feel really sorry for Cole and i wish that the pair could of had their happy ending that they always wanted. In my personal opinion i blame Phoebe for the way things turned out. xxx
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Post by ljones on Aug 30, 2009 13:30:52 GMT -5
I guess this is your opinion of Cole and Phoebe's relationship. It's not mine. Cole had sacrificed a lot of himself for Phoebe's sake. Phoebe had been willing to lie to her sisters to prevent them from vanquishing Cole back in Season 3 . . . even when she believed that she would never see him again.
Your description of their relationship as mere lust and passion does not jibe with what I had remembered.
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Post by Piper3 on Aug 31, 2009 16:26:22 GMT -5
Thank you. I agree completely.
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Post by jade on Sept 28, 2009 15:56:09 GMT -5
i think cole should have been there till the end because think about how much good he did after he fell in love with pheobe and he didnt want to kill the which but they had his fathers sole what would you do let them kill his fathers sole or kill his love
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Post by Lady Morticia on Sept 30, 2009 0:43:45 GMT -5
No it wasn't Phoebe's fault, it was the Seer.
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Post by dylan345 on Sept 30, 2009 13:20:23 GMT -5
I guess I'm just wondering how it could possibly be Phoebe's fault that Cole was the Source. Did she force the powers into him in an episode I missed? I'm really wondering why.
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