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Post by dylan345 on Nov 2, 2009 16:11:22 GMT -5
In my opinion, Prue and Cole would have made a better couple than Cole and Phoebe. In season three, Phoebe was not mature enough to deal with a serious relationship that had such difficulties attached to it, but I believe Prue could have handled it. I think she would have done a better job of dealing with the situation, by never lying to her sisters about vanquishing Cole, and never putting them in danger to help him. I also don't think she would have ever turned evil; she probably would have figured out what was going on with Cole in season four when he turned evil way before anyone else did. Where Phoebe and Cole's relationship went to hell, I think Prue and Cole could have made it work. That is, if they hadn't been written to hate each other.
Then Phoebe would have the chance to grow up a bit more mature, Prue could learn more about living on the darker side of life, and Cole would have someone who supported him and who could keep him in line.
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Post by marienomad on Nov 3, 2009 11:58:11 GMT -5
What if Prue killed Cole the first second she could?
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Post by Esmeralda on Nov 3, 2009 12:46:52 GMT -5
Had she been the one who fell in love with Cole the lawyer before she knew he was Belthazar, I can see her horribly torn between vanquishing him and saving him, but especially if Cole had saved the Charmed Ones (and, more, if he had saved Prue's sisters rather than save her) I think Prue eventually would've seen him as salvagable and worked on a way to help him keep his demonic half under control.
I don't think Prue would've tried to turn Cole mortal like Phoebe did to Cole or Piper wanted to do to Leo, or if Prue had, I think she would've realized how absolutely useless and absolutely miserable he was and for love of him, had helped him get his demonic half back.
Hopefully like Cole with Phoebe, in this alternate world (and I think it would make a *great* alternate-universe story, especially one where Paige isn't a part of the story--what could've happened had Prue not been killed and Paige never born), love of Prue and Prue's love of him--something Cole didn't get from Phoebe after she couldn't admit that her becoming the Queen of the Underworld was *her* fault, not Cole's--would keep Cole good.
Prue with Cole, Piper with Leo and eventually Phoebe (who hopefully would stay Phoebs, but a more grownup mature Phoebs and not regress back into Freebie/PhoeME as obsession of Cole did to her) with Jason and/or Henry would make a very good six-some, even if I'd prefer Phoebe with Leo and Piper with Jason and/or Henry--let Piper have her normal life at home and let Chris not be as neurotic no matter if he were Piper's son or Leo's, and let Leo keep his wings.
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Post by Lady Morticia on Nov 4, 2009 2:28:03 GMT -5
I have to say I never considered Cole with Prue before. I can see how it would have been better character development, I was never happy with the Cole Phoebe relationship.
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Post by Esmeralda on Nov 4, 2009 11:43:52 GMT -5
I started considering it during the first time I watched "The Good, The Bad and the Cursed". There was *such* chemistry between Prue and Cole, something I'd never really sensed between Phoebe and Cole, and I already didn't like the way my then-favorite sister (Phoebe) was regressing into someone I no longer liked. That continued into S4 and S5.
Then when I joined the Cafe during S6 and found out that Shannen and Julian were dating during S3 (and Alyssa and Brian were...), I found myself wishing that it had gone this way even more.
Much as I love the idea of Cole going after the most vulernable sister, the youngest, had he done that but still ended up falling for Prue, I would've enjoyed it a lot more.
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Post by dylan345 on Nov 4, 2009 14:19:46 GMT -5
I think the idea of Cole going after the baby of the family is an interesting story line, but the idea of him going after the oldest is more interesting. It's an idea that hasn't been done a lot before. Of course it was interesting to watch how things unfolded between the conflicted bad guy and the naive youngest. But with the character of Prue, I think it would have been even more fun to watch.
Maybe they could have given Phoebe the parts with Brendan Rowe in season one, Bane in season two, and Tom the ex boyfriend in season three to show her falling into those seemingly dangerous situations as you expect the youngest to do, and then have Prue fall for the person who would lead them into far more danger than the others did. It would be a reversal of the normal characterizations you expect.
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Post by Esmeralda on Nov 4, 2009 15:18:37 GMT -5
WHOA! Now there's an alternate timeline I would've *loved* to have seen played out.
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Post by ljones on Nov 4, 2009 16:19:48 GMT -5
I think that of all the sisters, Prue was the one who seemed mature enough to handle a romance with a half-demon like Cole. Unfortunately, she and Cole had shared many personality quirks that that seemed a bit too similar for my tastes.
Both had a snarky sense of humor. Both were paranoid. Both had reserved personalities. Both had a tendency to be the lone wolf without consulting the help of others. Both tend to be controlling. Prue controlled her sisters too much for my tastes. Cole tend to attempt to control a situation when it was not called for (his return to the Thorn Brotherhood in an attempt to ensure they would not bother him in the future is a prime example). Both tend to hold their emotions in, until something causes them to finally snap.
I guess I'm not into couples who share similar personality traits.
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Post by marienomad on Nov 4, 2009 18:39:43 GMT -5
I think that of all the sisters, Prue was the one who seemed mature enough to handle a romance with a half-demon like Cole. Unfortunately, she and Cole had shared many personality quirks that that seemed a bit too similar for my tastes. Both had a snarky sense of humor. Both were paranoid. Both had reserved personalities. Both had a tendency to be the lone wolf without consulting the help of others. Both tend to be controlling. Prue controlled her sisters too much for my tastes. Cole tend to attempt to control a situation when it was not called for (his return to the Thorn Brotherhood in an attempt to ensure they would not bother him in the future is a prime example). Both tend to hold their emotions in, until something causes them to finally snap. I guess I'm not into couples who share similar personality traits. Ironically, in real life, that would have worked because couples some some similarities actually work better than opposites. I read that an in article. But the rule of drama is that couples have to be opposites to cause as much plot as possible. |
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Post by dylan345 on Nov 4, 2009 19:29:27 GMT -5
I think that of all the sisters, Prue was the one who seemed mature enough to handle a romance with a half-demon like Cole. Unfortunately, she and Cole had shared many personality quirks that that seemed a bit too similar for my tastes. Both had a snarky sense of humor. Both were paranoid. Both had reserved personalities. Both had a tendency to be the lone wolf without consulting the help of others. Both tend to be controlling. Prue controlled her sisters too much for my tastes. Cole tend to attempt to control a situation when it was not called for (his return to the Thorn Brotherhood in an attempt to ensure they would not bother him in the future is a prime example). Both tend to hold their emotions in, until something causes them to finally snap. I guess I'm not into couples who share similar personality traits. Maybe if they had been together they would have brought out different traits in the other that we never saw. Their relationship would be complicated, but like you, I see Prue as the only one who could handle a relationship like that. |
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Post by CharmedFaith on Nov 4, 2009 23:05:46 GMT -5
Thats how I wouldve preferred it in the long run of things. It wouldve been a big storyline and change for Prue since she probably saw demonic things more black and white more than Piper and Phoebe did, so it wouldve put her in that grey area that she would hate to come to terms with.
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Post by ljones on Nov 5, 2009 17:34:23 GMT -5
Thats how I wouldve preferred it in the long run of things. It wouldve been a big storyline and change for Prue since she probably saw demonic things more black and white more than Piper and Phoebe did, so it wouldve put her in that grey area that she would hate to come to terms with. After "Death Takes a Halliwell", in which she nearly killed a demon out rage, instead of simply trying to save someone; Prue began to view demonic things or even morality with more ambiguity. Prue learned to realize that she had a serious dark side - one on the same level as Cole or any other demon. It's a pity that Piper, Phoebe and Paige had never experienced such self-realization. They paid lip service to it every once in a while, but they still ended up maintaining their own black-and-white view on morality and magic. I have read and witnessed differently. I have no problems with a couple who share similar views, etc. But romancing someone who is exactly like you strikes me as narcissist. |
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Post by dylan345 on Nov 5, 2009 19:12:01 GMT -5
Thats how I wouldve preferred it in the long run of things. It wouldve been a big storyline and change for Prue since she probably saw demonic things more black and white more than Piper and Phoebe did, so it wouldve put her in that grey area that she would hate to come to terms with. Prue would hate that, wouldn't she? But she would do it eventually, and learn something from it. Her coming to terms with that sort of thing was one of the things about her that always made her so interesting. |
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Post by Lady Morticia on Nov 8, 2009 1:11:21 GMT -5
I think the idea of Cole going after the baby of the family is an interesting story line, but the idea of him going after the oldest is more interesting. It's an idea that hasn't been done a lot before. Of course it was interesting to watch how things unfolded between the conflicted bad guy and the naive youngest. But with the character of Prue, I think it would have been even more fun to watch. Maybe they could have given Phoebe the parts with Brendan Rowe in season one, Bane in season two, and Tom the ex boyfriend in season three to show her falling into those seemingly dangerous situations as you expect the youngest to do, and then have Prue fall for the person who would lead them into far more danger than the others did. It would be a reversal of the normal characterizations you expect. You are pure genius! Man do I wish I could have seen this plot played out instead *looks into the distance dreaming of Charmed possibilities* |
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Post by marienomad on Nov 8, 2009 3:47:45 GMT -5
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Post by Esmeralda on Nov 8, 2009 9:59:48 GMT -5
That's been mentioned many times on this site, just not in this thread, just like the fact that around that time Alyssa was dating Brian, so if you want to know why there was so much chemistry between Prue and Cole during "The Good, The Bad, and the Cursed", now you know. During that episode, the chemistry absolutely sizzles, more than between any other couple on the show.
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Post by ljones on Nov 12, 2009 12:33:10 GMT -5
It's odd you mentioned that Alyssa and Brian had dated. I had heard this rumor that Alyssa had not been particularly thrilled over Shannen and Julian's brief romance, while filming S3. It is also rumored that she may have encouraged Kern to send Cole's character's into a decline in order to encourage Julian to later leave the series. It is also rumored that when he had agreed to return for a guest appearance in S5, Julian made it explicitly clear that he did not want to share a scene with Alyssa. And he has a reputation for being easy to get along with.
Mind you . . . these are all rumors. I doubt there are any truths to them.
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Post by dylan345 on Nov 12, 2009 13:13:26 GMT -5
I thought Alyssa and Brian had a lot of chemistry in season three too. Not during the whole thing, but there were scenes that did jump out at me.
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Post by dylan345 on Nov 12, 2009 13:17:32 GMT -5
I think the idea of Cole going after the baby of the family is an interesting story line, but the idea of him going after the oldest is more interesting. It's an idea that hasn't been done a lot before. Of course it was interesting to watch how things unfolded between the conflicted bad guy and the naive youngest. But with the character of Prue, I think it would have been even more fun to watch. Maybe they could have given Phoebe the parts with Brendan Rowe in season one, Bane in season two, and Tom the ex boyfriend in season three to show her falling into those seemingly dangerous situations as you expect the youngest to do, and then have Prue fall for the person who would lead them into far more danger than the others did. It would be a reversal of the normal characterizations you expect. You are pure genius! Man do I wish I could have seen this plot played out instead *looks into the distance dreaming of Charmed possibilities* Do you think if Prue and Cole were involved, she would have been the one to leave the show? This is assuming she was still supposedly difficult to get along with. But if she had been in a serious relationship instead of Phoebe, does anyone think they would have kept her instead? |
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Post by Esmeralda on Nov 12, 2009 15:52:46 GMT -5
Well, as pointed out, both relationships were just brief ones, so it's hard to say if they were still going on at the time that the last episode was filmed.
Also keep in mind that Shannen did NOT leave--she fully expected to be back for Season Four. Holly has made it very clear that Kern fired Shannen over the phone while she was out of the country filming a movie during the hiatus, and that she (Holly) is still very bitter about how it was handled.
So Shannen and Julian's relationship had next-to-nothing to do with whether Shannen left or not, *unless* Alyssa talked Kern into firing Shannen due to the relationship between Shannen and "Cole", but I think *IF* she had anything to do with Shannen's firing, it had more to do with the fact that she thought that Shannen had more scenes and more lines than she did, and she thought that she'd be the one with the most if Shannen was gone. I hope that's true, because it would be hilarious if she went through all of that and then ended up playing second fiddle to Holly, despite having top billing.
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