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Post by erikamarie on Mar 18, 2016 5:44:52 GMT -5
I like better seasons 5 and 6, different opinions
In season 2 there are, as often, very nice episodes, some interesting episodes and some boring The seasons is, IMO, really weak in the central episodes while the last five are intriguing, exspecially Chick Flick and Apocalypse, Not
I liked the burocratic command center of the Four Knights and the Council, I wonder what they did in the other six seasons
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 18, 2016 5:28:03 GMT -5
Thank you, I made up as a fairy tale for the twins and they had fun It's fun to try to reconnect all the wires and to realize how much wealth of ideas was scattered along all seasons
Season Four: Now that the Source is vanquished, Prue suggests Phoebe to get married, a good way to clear the brief flirt between her and Cole As in the real season 4, Cole announces that he'll work for a prestigious studio and moved with Phoebe to a luxury penthouse Prue quickly senses the change in him and begins to investigate, she hears rumors about a new Source and a magical child, and even about a secret plan against the Charmed Ones involving a young witch Despite her suspicions, she isn't able to stop the events: Phoebe gets pregnant, scared and happy, Cole, who knows that Prue suspected him, tells her of their brief flir causing a quarrel between sisters that leads Phoebe to isolate themselves
I'ld eliminate the Wizard, I like better instead an attempt to revolt against the coronation of a Source married to a witch, lead by Zankou, released by the insurgents Phoebe finds out the truth but sided with her husband
Prue reacts harshly, makes potions and spells because the Power of Three is broken, Piper tries to convince herself that Phoebe'll return with them, tries to make contact, but Phoebe says she has to protect the baby and brings out Prue's story with Cole Paige comes to the Manor trying to figure out why Phoebe seems vanished, also Billie comes, she is surprised for the absence of her favorite teacher Shax chooses that moment to attack and seriously injures Billie, Piper tries to blow him up, Paige terrified by the strange events desperately tries to bring round Billie, and, with her astonishment, a light comes out from her hands and heals the wounds Prue comes running down from the attic, Shax seems disappeared, Prue helps Paige up and then a light surrounds all the three: when Shax reappears, Piper instinctively asks Paige to repeat what they are saying: the spell works, the Power of Three destroys Shax Paige runs away from the Manor
Piper and Prue evoke Grams who confessed their connection with Paige and warns that they have to find quickly their new sister before the Source'ld catch her The news of a reconstituted Power of Three flies under world, the queen of the vampires think it'ld be a good idea to have a newbie Charmed Ones against the Source Cole / Source eliminates the Queen but Prue and Piper manage to escape with Paige, completely shocked at what her life is becoming Phoebe owuns up she cannot live as the Underworld Queen, as in Long Live the Queen she meets her sisters
Phoebe: Well, you can have me back. You can have the power of three back. You just have to be willing to meet me half way. Piper- Prue: Phoebe, you can't protect the innocent and save demons, it just doesn't work that way.
( I loved a lot this dialogue)
Phoebe's pregnancy worries the Elders, they don't know the terms of the prophecy but they know that the magic itself'll release enormous power over a child who will be born in a mysterious particular day At this point,the Elders remove the spell that prevented Piper to get pregnant hoping that Piper and Leo'ld be the parents of that special child
The battle between the Source and Zankou is upsetting the entire demonic world Phoebe discovers that Paige is her sister and that Cole'ld have eliminated her without problems, she learns they're drugging the child with pure evil, so she makes up her mind, she leaves Cole and goes back to her sisters
The Charmed Ones discover that both Cole and Zankou aim to absorb the Nessus,they decide to use the spell that destroys the Nexus to solve a war that is being reflected in the real world, where evil increases wars and massacres Prue learns that her astral projection is able to bring out the projections of her sisters, seeing that Phoebe is pregnant she asks Paige to take her place Paige agrees but says that it's the last time she'll act with them, she wants to leave to India with her friend Glenn to reflect
The sisters magically close the attic to avoid being perceived Cole and Zankou are challenging each other in front of Nessus, the sisters appear and read the formula, an explosion shakes the Manor Piper and Paige wake up in the attic while Phoebe firefightings Prue's astral projection, in an effort to ward off her sisters's projections, was involved in the explosion, in the attic there is only her body The girls call the ambulance and come out with the paramedics, hoping for a miracle
Prue's soul closes the door
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 18, 2016 4:47:57 GMT -5
Still Charmed and Kicking (5) Malice in Wonderland (1)Run, Piper, Run (5) Desperate Housewitches (1) Rewitched (5) Kill Billie: Vol.1 (5) The Lost Picture Show (5) Battle of the Hexes (-1) Hulkus Pocus (5) Vaya Con Leos (7) Mr. & Mrs. Witch (3) Payback's a Witch (13) Repo Manor (5) 12 Angry Zen (5) The Last Temptation of Christy (7) Engaged and Confused (7) The Torn Identity (5) The Jung and the Restless (13) Gone with the Witches (5) Kill Billie: Vol. 2 (9) Read more: thecharmedcafe.proboards.com/thread/11597/charmed-episode-elimination-game-season#ixzz43FLL7Epr
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 18, 2016 4:45:20 GMT -5
I was not clear, I mean I think right not separate Cole from Belthazor I don't believe that Cole'ld fully adapt to rules and ways of relating of a human society, but he'ld find a way of living, if he stayed with Phoebe I never believed in Cole dreaming of turning in a good guy, why would he want it? but he'ld accept to live away from his demonic world next to Phoebe, that's what I mean by neutral So you want Cole to be a true neutral being I'm guessing right? In a way, I mean that he is able to live without doing evil things if he wants, but he'll never be a selfless person or really will accept the rules of human life After all, he lived for 100 years experiencing the freedom to do what he wanted as a demon can do, the dream of every person
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 17, 2016 13:17:12 GMT -5
I am not so good in splitting the seasons with a final episode, I'll try to write a summary of four seasons
First season, untouchable, Andy dies, and Prue is likely to move away from magic
Second season, I'ld avoid the triangle, Leo and Piper fall in love, the Elders remove Leo and send Nathalie (I'd move Blinded By The Whitelighter to the second season) After solving Eames's attack and Nathalie'death, the sisters warn the Elders that they'll never agree for any reason to have other whitelgther than Leo, they can do without Aware of the stubborn nature of the Halliwell, the Elders mediate and send Leo back with the promise that Piper and Leo'll wait for a marriage, fearing the birth of a their too powerful kid, fear caused by rumors of a predestined child I'ld introduce atthis point Tyler; Leo and Piper save him and, as a foster family, Leo suggests the Jenkins who are not witches but have a witch as daughter and the family can be adequate to grow Tyler In this way they come into contact with Paige as a social worker and Billie as Tyler's adoptive sister Cole and Phoebe meet,they fall in love, the story of the sisters goes on as in the third season, I would close the season with Sleuthing With the Enemy
Third season: I'ld keep the stories of the third, Phoebe and Cole go back together, but no marriage between Piper and Leo The Source sends his favorite killer and Prue makes the mistake of attacking Shax in the road and it happens what happens in AHBL Difference: Leo comes, seeking to heal the two sisters together, Prue is the most serious injured so while Piper gets better, an ambulance comes to interrupt Leo's healing:Prue goes into a coma, doctors cannot speak about when she'll wake up Piper goes nuts, she forces her idea of a demons hunting by 2 witches and an half demon as in the fourth season, , Cole and Leo live in the Manor, Phoebe asks Paige for help hoping to be able to calm Piper, so Pheobe and Paige become friends Cole asks Phoebe to marry him, she replies that she need her sisters as bridesmaids so they have to wait I slow down all the Source's story anticipating for example the meeting with Karen, with Cole that helps the sisters instead of attacking Paige Billie is impatient to join the sisters, since Prue is in the hospital she is trying to help even if Leo doesn't want to expose her as she is only 15 years Phoebe starts her job at the newspaper, but Shax's threat looms overx and Leo, despite the prohibition of the Elders, take advantage of the right moment to release Prue from coma Prue comes home and finds a changed reality:she is tired and out of shape, Phoebe works,in the meanwhile Piper has tried to turn into a super witch to replace her big sister, Cole now lives in the Manor It's'Cole who takes the job of putting herback on their feet and Prue begins to feel an attraction that scares her Cole is concerned: not to arouse too much suspicion Leo has just awakened Prue, which is rather weak, she is unable to resume a leading role Piper, too happy to have her big sister, has instead immediately abandoned her new decisionist attitude summarizing the ancient role of the faithful helper Phoebe is happy for her work and for that role as older sister who has taken with Billie The Source loses his head, decides to summon the Hollow, the Seer warns Cole and tells him of a prophecy of a mysterious event that would cause the birth of a powerful child and she saw a great power in the son of the Source and of a Charmed Ones Cole agrees, I think of Charmed and Dangerous as finale, with the only difference that Phoebe writes a powerful spell for the Power of Three, without calling the ancestors
Tomorrow the other three seasons
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 17, 2016 12:26:38 GMT -5
Did the sisters not also go back in time in "The 70's episodes" where they revealed themselves quickly? Yet at first, their Grams had sent them out, fearing they were imposters or anyone else. You have to remember this. Besides, I bring up the trilogy "Back to the Future" again where Doc Brown said to be careful when you're in the past, changing anything. Yes, Chris had goals in his mind but he tried not to reveal so much. Unfortunately, the sisters in that field had not learn their lesson. Although I cannot stand how they described the Greek goddesses and the Titans, I always loved Chris's entry into the attic In Chris Crossed appears clearly that Bianca and Chris determined that this was the perfect time to become the sisters's whitelighter Reviewing the episode, I like to see Chris wandering the attic smiling, enjoying that strange homecoming
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 17, 2016 12:17:50 GMT -5
I was not clear, I mean I think right not separate Cole from Belthazor I don't believe that Cole'ld fully adapt to rules and ways of relating of a human society, but he'ld find a way of living, if he stayed with Phoebe
I never believed in Cole dreaming of turning in a good guy, why would he want it? but he'ld accept to live away from his demonic world next to Phoebe, that's what I mean by neutral
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 16, 2016 11:36:58 GMT -5
I have never taken into account as husband Dan, man unsuited to a witch,but I'ld have liked a slower course of story between Piper and Leo
I remember that Leo had thought about marriage as a sacred symbol that even the Elders cannot break, statement that reassured me putting the Elders in their place of magical creatures and not gods
Once gotten the permission to live their love story they had no reason of being in a hurry to get married
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 16, 2016 11:25:15 GMT -5
I read about The beauty and the Beast a Brad Kern's claim, he said that the past can be forgiven but not forgotten, I think this line'ld fit for a Paige and Cole storyline, Paige'ld be willing to help Cole, never to forget who he was
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 16, 2016 11:17:07 GMT -5
I agree,there were different varieties of demons, some really a little further than mindless monster, others more complex
Zankou was a smart demon and he was able to understand the sisters's emotions and reasoning
Alex was in love with Daisy, a love so strong that generate hatred and craving for control and this happens, unfortunately,to many men also
Drake was capable of love and he was a demon able to live a not demonic life
Cole loved Phoebe, a true love, this doesn't mean he wished to turn good for her but he honestly dreamed a "neutral" life and a family with her
The Source was consumed by his possessiveness for power and the passion for power is a feeling that humans and demons share
The Triad was able to raise Chisty and to grow and turn to pure evil a human kid they must be able to understand her,to possess a high degree of intelligence but also of emotions
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 16, 2016 10:48:18 GMT -5
Tyler, I liked his power and his personality, sensitive but combative, very mature for his age
He is a character I'ld love to see again
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 16, 2016 10:43:27 GMT -5
Nice thread, it make me think that also in episodes that I never liked, as Sword and the City ( in my perfect season 6, it'ld never exist), we'ld find nice moment
I like Hyde School Reunion ending, Chris playing with his big brother, Piper smiling while she is feeling the baby kick
Hyde School Reunion is an episode in which I like only the part with Victor and Chris, Phoebe's school riunion with her odious former mates, is too similar to Piper's
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 16, 2016 2:02:54 GMT -5
AHBL is my 3rd instead
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 16, 2016 1:46:26 GMT -5
Until the Elders were unknown and mysterious entity, the magic seemed to self-regulate itself, the Phoebe lottery ticket is an exampl
Not that there was something wrong with winning the lottery, an event dominated by Chance and Fortune, but maybe because the same magic fear the excesses of power, but maybe because the same magic fears all the power that you may be tempted to get Magic seemed provided with a scamp sense of humor, see busty Paige in Hell Hath No Fury, able to prevent potential excesses
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 16, 2016 1:34:00 GMT -5
I don't know Secret Circle and Witches of East End, but I missed San Francisco in Charmed, a city so sunny, with the sea, the sea lions, the docks, would be a perfect setting especially in some episodes full of tension
I followed a British series last year, Broadchurch, where the cliffs and the beach,a perfect landscape for a tourist poster, were the scene of the crime, it was as if they were part of the narrative
In The Wendigo I liked the setting in the wood
One thing was exactly righ in Charmed: the Manor I love that old house, the door framed of white roses,the conservatory full of light, the attic with the coloured windows, it was so familiar!
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 16, 2016 1:17:47 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I was so glad to give points to every episode that I didn't notice the specification about the number of episodes
Still Charmed and Kicking (5) Malice in Wonderland (3) Run, Piper, Run (5) Desperate Housewitches (3) Rewitched (5) Kill Billie: Vol.1 (5) The Lost Picture Show (5) Battle of the Hexes (3) Hulkus Pocus (5) Vaya Con Leos (3) Mr. & Mrs. Witch (5) Payback's a Witch (9) Repo Manor (5) 12 Angry Zen (5) The Last Temptation of Christy (7) Engaged and Confused (7) The Torn Identity (5) The Jung and the Restless (9) Gone with the Witches (5) Kill Billie: Vol. 2 (7) Forever Charmed (-1)
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 15, 2016 11:21:16 GMT -5
Still Charmed and Kicking (5) Malice in Wonderland (3) Run, Piper, Run (5) Desperate Housewitches (5) Rewitched (5) Kill Billie: Vol.1 (5) The Lost Picture Show (5) Battle of the Hexes (3) Hulkus Pocus (5) Vaya Con Leos (7) Mr. & Mrs. Witch (3) Payback's a Witch (5) Repo Manor (5) 12 Angry Zen (3) The Last Temptation of Christy (5) Engaged and Confused (7) The Torn Identity (5) The Jung and the Restless (5) Gone with the Witches (5) Kill Billie: Vol. 2 (7) Forever Charmed (3)
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 15, 2016 11:16:15 GMT -5
In Chris Crossed the tour guide suggests that the Charmed Ones died together or at least I understood this
I'd rather the idea of Paige surviving at least a couple of years, working together with Victor and Henry to raise the kids
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 10, 2016 12:24:49 GMT -5
Some of the members though that a world without the Source would be in disarray and it was likely that a faction of demons eager for a strong leader to put an end to chaos would formed Zankou appeared as the most powerful of the demons and, with Belthazor, one of the smartest, a great enemy to the Charmed Ones, it was hard to give up such a character In this case, even in the original timeline Zankou came up against the sisters and many also liked the idea of a clandestine periods for the sisters, Something Wicca This Way Goes is an episode very much treasured
I still agree with you, thinking about how powerful Piper and Phobe'ld be in 2018, only friends'ld be able to kill them treacherously
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 8, 2016 10:37:58 GMT -5
I remember in Destined we talked about it, drawing the time between the Titans story (from that moment Chris unknowingly changes the timeline) and the death of the Charmed Ones, announced in Chris Crossed
I remember also that we agreed that the story of the Titans domain was a Chris's invention to take Leo's merits and replace him as the Charmed Ones whitelighter and that, having never found out who had kidnapped Wyatt, Leo had kept intact his confidence in the Elders and in Gideon
This trust frustrate the entire Avatars's story arc although about Zankou there were various opinions
Does anyone remember or have downloaded that debate?
It was itemized and lively, full of ideas
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