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Post by erikamarie on Apr 12, 2016 4:49:27 GMT -5
Sorry Soledad, April is a busy month, I am jumping from a country to another
When I'll go back from Milan, I'll have my pc again and I'll be able to post the story
PS I think you made a mistake and your list has nothing to do with the question
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 12, 2016 4:40:51 GMT -5
Run, Piper, Run (5)
Rewitched (-1)
Kill Billie: Vol.1 (5)
The Lost Picture Show (5)
Hulkus Pocus (5)
Vaya Con Leos (11)
Payback's a Witch (17)
Repo Manor (3)
12 Angry Zen (5)
The Last Temptation of Christy (13)
Engaged and Confused (19)
The Torn Identity (5)
The Jung and the Restless (23)
Kill Billie: Vol. 2 (25)
OUT:
Still Charmed and Kicking (-5)
Malice in Wonderland (-5)
Gone with the Witches (-5)
Mr. & Mrs. Witch (-5)
Desperate Housewitches (-5)
Forever Charmed (-5)
Battle of the Hexes (-5)
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 12, 2016 4:35:49 GMT -5
You cannot handle 178 episodes with the monster of the week and related innocent to save, it would become Magic Law and Order and not Charmed
Suernatural after the scheduled first 5 seasons - I am more and more convinced it’s the perfect number for a serie - had to invent the Enemy of the season, they could never save an innocent for episode for 11 season: in fact Sam and Dean haveto deal with fairies, Titans, various sprites, it is difficult to invent something new for so long time
I see Charmed divided into stages of life
Season 1-2: newbie witches, they discover a world of monsters and villains and innocents to be saved, they pay an heavy price, Andy, but it's a nice turning point in their lives the birth of their bond, for Phoebe represents the great turn of her life the discovery of having herself a role in the world
Season 3- 4. The demonic world cannot stand losing and cannot allow the growing of their power that’ld become almost unbeatable (the most powerful witches of all time, those of Morality Bites in 2009).
The Council, the Triad, the Source’s attacks make their lives a living hell, and kill Prue.
The sisters win but end crushed and if Piper is pregnant and has Leo to support her, Phoebe has lost everything, her sister / mother, the love of her life, a son
Season 5 / 6- the powerful forces of evil are defeated, there are still monsters and demons and some innocents to save, but clearly the decreasing activity of the Evil involves less innocent in danger
It could be a quiet period but Chris’s irruption and his obsessive hunt for demons changes everything: there is danger in the future, a future of which they are responsible
The almost light heartedness parenthesis, in which they were witches secure of themselves and of their role ends with the betrayal and murder of Chis
Season 7: the consequences of betrayal are the basis of this season.
If Piper locks herself at home with the children, Phoebe loses faith even in a work that until then had been her anchor, Paige lives a time of the total loss of her role, Leo is living the deepest crisis
The betrayal came from the supreme hierarchy of the Good that the sisters identified with Good itself and that for Leo was mentor and family. His mentor, almost a father, tried to kill his two year old son and killed his 23 year old son_ it’s something unimaginable for anyone, Leo is close to madness
The Avatars, relying on fears and blackmail - the loss of Piper – conquer Leo to their cause, deceiving him with the worldview of peace
Because the words cannot be useful with the disillusioned sisters, they use the vision of an idyllic world for their support: who'ld not want a world of peace and tranquility for all?
The pain of betrayal has as consequence the deception and following their feelings the sisters fall into Avatars's trap and to solve it they come into contact with the demon even feared by the Source, a demon who terrorizes even the Elders that drop out of them, confirming their nature of politicians of Good
The sisters are seriously convinced they reached the end and accepting the idea of a death in battle is not a joke even for the most idiotic heroes
They survive and after treachery, betrayal, abandonment, cowardice and death, they decide to abandon the world of magic
The series was endend and ended in style because after seven years of vicissitudes, grief, terror and threatened lives, it was right that the sisters released finally their lives
The order to invent another season was still executed with dignity
Season 8: getting away from the magic is not very simple, there is this young witch to train, there are still innocent in need of help
They come back as witches, train the young witch as a family member the doors of Halliwell house open easily
Again, the long arm of the ancient infernal hierarchy strikes and strikes through a new betrayal, that, very human, of a friend, welcomed home like a baby sister
More adult and mature, this time the betrayal'll not bring devastation but the knowledge that their unique link is the most precious thing they had: Elders, demons, Angels of Death or Destiny, young evil witches thirsty for power, no one can defeat them because they are the Charmed Ones and the indestructible love between sisters, the strong family bond is their most powerful weapon
In a perspective view, the 8 seasons are completed and form a complex story, not trivial, out of the usual scheme: I good- you bad- I save innocent and I defeat evil - of many series prior Charmed
Only Women for 8 years and women full of contradictions and positive and negative phases, not angelic heroines overflowing of self-sacrifice, it was a difficult but intriguing path
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 3, 2016 7:10:59 GMT -5
I didn't know Milano before Charmed nor do I know what she's doing now, apart from her commitment to UNICEF
I agree that she exudes a sense of lightness that in Charmed lightened dramatic situations
I have always loved the dialogues of Charmed, to write good dialogues, which were not melodramatic or banal or predictable is very difficult and always Phoebe's character has the ability to say those words that, even in the most unpredictable situations, induced a smile
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 3, 2016 6:53:21 GMT -5
" Say whatever you want" it's not a nice answer, even if it'ld not seem, the manners are appreciated
If you search you'll see that there is a thread that speaks specifically about this problem, in Death Takes A Halliwell there is a discussion between Prue and the Angel of Death, probably your memory is linked to that episode
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 3, 2016 3:13:54 GMT -5
Chris Crossed in one of my favorite episodes too, one that I can look without using the fast-forward to skip the boring parts
The scene in the attic, completely sunk in the dark, is among the best of Charmed
Unfortunately in the US series, with few exception as the first season of True Detective, light and scenography aren't take into account so much
Maybes for this reason I love Wyatt and Chris's face-off, the two brothers all dressed in black and barely illuminated by the light of the windows - those beautiful Art Nouveau windows seem them too obscured - are something absolutely different from the usual setting of Charmed
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 3, 2016 3:00:15 GMT -5
Nothing is created, nothing is destroyed, everything is transformed We were talking of multiverses or meta universes, the theory of the existence of finite and infinite possible universes, so all these timelines coexist In FC, Chris is a the Chris of that timeline, and I cannot think that the Chris from the future was dead: when the timeline changed, he came back to is original time I have always believed that Chris was back, seriously injured or dying, in his time, that hasn't changed, because you cannot change the past, you'ld try to open a new timeline or at least that's what many physicists think about time as a dimension |
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 3, 2016 2:53:46 GMT -5
I agree, because of the Source and the necessity of Power of Three, Paige is pushed in the heart of the action and of the relationship with her barely known sisters
It's true that Paige occupies roles evidently written for Prue's character, but a season cannot be rewritten in few time and little by little the episodes carry on, Paige finds her own identity, different from the decision maker Prue, more ironic and sweet
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 3, 2016 2:41:40 GMT -5
You'ld have seen some stories invented on youtube, it was often discussed, a second part of AHBL doesn't exist,
no one knows the plot which would open the fourth season if Doherty hadn't been fire and after 16 years I doubt we'ld know
AHBL is one of my favorite final, with Déjà Vu All Over Again and Something Wicca This Way Goes and I also like that some things have'nt been clarified or explained
It's an episode that stands out from the usual because of the different technique, it starts in the middle of the action and it's the action that drags the onlooking the whole duration of the episode
Why Dr. Griffith was target by the Source isn't important, maybe it was a trap, maybe the Oracle send a fake premonition, maybe the Source knew that Prue was near a meltdown, after the devastating experience with depression induced by the darklighter and empathy induced thanks to Belthazor
Maybe, but it was a amazing finale for a great season
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 3, 2016 2:13:55 GMT -5
Run, Piper, Run (5)
Rewitched (1)
Kill Billie: Vol.1 (5)
The Lost Picture Show (7)
Hulkus Pocus (5)
Vaya Con Leos (9)
Payback's a Witch (17)
Repo Manor (3)
12 Angry Zen (5)
The Last Temptation of Christy (13)
Engaged and Confused (19)
The Torn Identity (5)
The Jung and the Restless (23)
Kill Billie: Vol. 2 (23)
OUT:
Still Charmed and Kicking (-5)
Malice in Wonderland (-5)
Gone with the Witches (-5)
Mr. & Mrs. Witch (-5)
Desperate Housewitches (-5)
Forever Charmed (-5)
Battle of the Hexes (-5)
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 2, 2016 4:30:45 GMT -5
My name is Erika, some people make a mistake and write Erica, I don't think it'ld be a lack of respect, only a mistake
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 2, 2016 4:24:39 GMT -5
Perhaps Victor's original hostility toward magic stemmed from the fact that Patty had failed to tell him that she was a witch . . . BEFORE they got married. She lied to him a lot, didn't she? A Bewitched situation style, but I cannot believe it was a lie to ruin their wedding, after all they had three daughters together, instead I think the problem arised with Victor feared for his girls' safety Victor disappears from his daughters's life even before Phoebe was born, an invisible father, as Prue told He returns in his daughters's lives when they are adults, not only because Grams died but also because he is grown up as a father, he has changed and now is able to accept the magical world Talking with Leo in The Good, The Bad, and The Cursed, Victor honestly admits it's not easy to be married to a witch, but consciously lies when blames Sam for his marriage failure, probably a convenient excuse to avoid admitting to himself that he abandoned Patty pregnant and he didn't come back even for his baby's love These are heavy remorse and I think that these remorse mattered when Paige appeared in the life of his surviving daughters just at the moment of greatest danger Moreover, Victor is a gentleman who'd never rude behavior with a girl, no matter whether half sister or friend or acquaintance of his daughters, nor Piper and Phoebe'ld have allowed it, so I find normal that Victor accepted Paige, loving aunt of his grandchildren, essential and darling sister of his daughters |
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 24, 2016 13:30:17 GMT -5
I prefer "Harm none, do what ye will"
To risk their lives and also have the rulebook to respect it seems excessive
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 24, 2016 13:27:41 GMT -5
Still Charmed and Kicking (1)
Malice in Wonderland (-3)
Run, Piper, Run (5)
Rewitched (3)
Kill Billie: Vol.1 (5)
The Lost Picture Show (9)
Hulkus Pocus (5)
Vaya Con Leos (7)
Payback's a Witch (17)
Repo Manor (5)
12 Angry Zen (5)
The Last Temptation of Christy (7)
Engaged and Confused (17)
The Torn Identity (5)
The Jung and the Restless (21)
Kill Billie: Vol. 2 (21)
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 24, 2016 13:26:10 GMT -5
There are couples who are more close-knit in maturity than in youth
Victor had finally accepted the magic and this changed their relations
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 22, 2016 13:36:46 GMT -5
I also never liked the ending, unnecessarily complicated
I have rewritten, though it's not the end but the premiere, always trying to retie the threads
Season six
Premiere
Leo recognizes the timeline and explains to Piper and Melinda who they are and what they know about their life
With a smile, Piper tells they may not know everything
At the time of execution, Piper remembers being awakened by a strange dream, in which she was 10 years younger and still tied to her sisters
In a fit of nostalgia for what they had lost, she called Prue asking to modify the plan: use a spell to make believe that the story of the witches was a fake and then request a fair trial for Phoebe
Despite Elders opposition, Prue and Piper were successful in their magical efforts, Pratt had been discredited, Phoebe was processed and a good lawyer asked for the temporary insanity brought on by stress and pain
Phoebe had won the trial and was sentenced to a few years
Their life was changed, however, they got back as sisters and witches
Prue devoted part of her wealth to a foundation that took care of sick children where Phoebe started to work at the end of sentence
Leo, resentful with the Elders because they'ld resolve the situation but they refused, asked for turning a human again, and since then he worked in the Foundation
Melinda, contrary to family trends, is an electronic engineer and Chris is amazed, even Wyatt loved the same subject, his is the invention of the probes that identify witches
The old timeline Leo comes back, together they try to understand what happened, Melinda, very logical youg woman, notes that if Gideon is the expert of portals and contribuited with the spell, it cannot be a coincidence that instead of advancing in time they got into a parallel reality
Leo then recalls a Odin's observation about the birth of Melinda: he said it was a relief she was born like clockwork, the Elders feared that, if she was born in advance, how many first children, she'ld risk being born on a particular day, and she'ld be too much powerful
It's clear to everyone that it's Gideon the Big Evil after Wyatt
Piper and Melinda write a new spell to send Leo and Chris back in the right reality
Wyatt, closed in his shield, runs away terrified in the dark Underworld, the news spreads and the demons open the hunt for the special child
Chris, back in the right timeline, feel his terror, along with Leo trace him but the kid rejects even his father, it's Chris who can pick him up
Leo tells Chris to bring the kid to safety to their aunts and stay with them, he has to track down Gideon and deliver him to the Elders
Chris tracks his aunts, delivers Wyatt to Phoebe but is woried about Leo, he doesn't judge his father powerful enough to face Gideon
Chris knows Underworld very well, when the Elders wanted to force them to live in the Magic School, he and Wyatt have fled and hidden right there
His contacts warn him that the Triad is reincarnated and that the Elder is searching contacts with them due to their secret weapon
Chris approachs a cave, he sees Gideon talking with a demon who wear the black robe with the Triad symbol
As Chris tries to listen, he sees a shaking blond girl, he approaches her and tries to reassure her, saying that he'll take her away from there
She hugs him and stabs him
Wyatt feels the pain of his brother and orbs with a stunned Phoebe in Underwrold
Leo, always looking for Gideon, comes in time to see Chris disappearing from Phoebe's arms under the bloody little hands of Wyatt, who is trying to heal him and bursts into tears
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 21, 2016 15:14:05 GMT -5
Maybe Patty'll watch too many times Bewitched
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 21, 2016 14:57:42 GMT -5
Melody and Michelle, I like these names, I can't stand the P names
Piper: her sons are in my heart, I'ld never give them away. Wyatt and Chris with their classic powers, Wyatt able to manipulate the magic with his mind and the explosive power of his mom, Chris with his aunt Prue's TK power
Phoebe: Ladybug is from Drake, let her to have an half demon daughter! A new Prudence Halliwell with a strong premonition power
Seeing that she didn't see the other two girls, I also don't want to see them
Paige: I agree that two adopted people'll desire to adopt a child, so little Henry is a normal child, as his father
The twins haven't whitelighter powers - I am sick and tired with children provided with powers different than those of the witches - they have the same orbing TK of their mom
Information about Paige's loved names are impossible to find, but I am sure no name that starts with P, Paige is not so conservative, or her mothers names
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 21, 2016 14:31:38 GMT -5
Still Charmed and Kicking (3)
Malice in Wonderland (-1)
Run, Piper, Run (5)
Rewitched (3)
Kill Billie: Vol.1 (5)
The Lost Picture Show (7)
Hulkus Pocus (5)
Vaya Con Leos (7)
Mr. & Mrs. Witch (1)
Payback's a Witch (13)
Repo Manor (5)
12 Angry Zen (5)
The Last Temptation of Christy (5)
Engaged and Confused (15)
The Torn Identity (5)
The Jung and the Restless (17)
Gone with the Witches (3)
Kill Billie: Vol. 2 (17)
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 21, 2016 14:10:36 GMT -5
Thank you for the nice words
My twins are three years old: usually on Friday afternoon we go from Lugano to my Leukerbad,now full of snow and, if we don't fable about fairies and magic, we are forced to travel listening to Let it go from rFozen uninterruptedly
So my husband Michel and I have become two storytellers
Season Five:
Prue's funeral is a watershed moment in Piper Phoebe and Paige's life
Piper discovers that she is pregnant
Phoebe discovers that all Underworld is convinced that the Source's power hadn't been destroyed but inherited by his son
Paige resolves to stay close to her sisters and put off, only put off, the trip with Glenn
Paige begins to find out her role as witch and to get passionate, as in some episodes of season 4, as the Enchantress or Trial By Magic or Size Matters, working out to become a good witch
Phoebe trumps up a potion that removes any kind of power from her baby: this makes her an easy pregnancy but doesn't eliminate the problem of the continuing attempts from upper level demons to kidnap her, she even receives an official proposal of protection from the Thorn's Brotherhood as long as she handed her son once born, because he is the son of a Brother
Piper's pregnancy is serene, she realizes that the child is even able to protect her
When they receive the Angel of Destiny proposal they refuse it without any problems, they need their powers to protect their unborn children and then they are sure that the Big Bad was weeded out and now they'll be able again to live as before,only protecting innocent
Phoebe is so frightened about her son's future to lose her power of premonition,she comes into contact with Madame Teresa who sees the future child growing up in the dungeons of Underworld
The sisters help Madame Teresa and Lydia against the gypsy hunter and become friends with Eva, with Piepr's much relief, she needs advice from a doctor, not from her sisters
Paige convinces Phoebe that only keeping her son back from the magic world, he'll be safe
The baby is born secretly thanks to Eve and Eve, between her relatives, finds the parents suitable to adopt her: she is not the expected male but a little girl
Phoebe, not to attract too much attention, decides to call her Charlotte Prudence
Phoebe is concentrated in work to forget, with Paige they decide to help Piper to give birth, they fight some warlock, save some innocent, the Thorn Brotherhood and the demons decided to grow the Source's son believe he died as announced by Phoebe, too powerful to be born
The Day The Magic Died in my eyes is one of the best episodes of the series, the magic atmosphere, the warlock in taxi, Victor and Doris who completed a Cosmopolitan love quiz, I love all of the episode
Wyatt is born, demons try to kidnap him, Paige finds herself as affectionate aunt and grinds away at hunting the demons to protect her nephew: although Sense & Sense Ability is an episode in which I'ld change nothing, Crone disappears but she isn't destroyed
Paige thinks it's finally time to live her life, to go to India with Glenn, but she ends up petrified by the Titans
Even here, I'll respect the original story, improving only the description of the goddesses, especially of Athena, the most complex goddess of the Olympus, treated as a banal warmongering
But Chris arrives and, without wanting to change too much,he changes a lot of things, takes Leo's place and sends him to the Valkyries
The plot of Valhalley of the Dolls works perfectly for my story, the sisters go to the island to free Leo,they flee but Piper turns into a Valkyrie
When Paige and Phoebe finally manage to reverse the spell and Piper is herself again, Freya smiles and tells the girls not to immediately return to the real world, there is a surprise : Prue appears, Piper and Phoebe burst into joy tears
Prue says that the Valkyries saved her spirit and that, seeing reconstituted the Power of Three, she thought it was best not to warn the sisters of her new status. She gives them a Valkyries pendant, recommending to call her in case of danger
Wyatt conjures a dragon - a runt, according to Piper - the Cleaners, fomented by some of the Elders which considered a big mistake having allowed Piper and Leo's a son to come into the world, threaten to remove the child
Piper wins the game but the hostile Elders team gain also Gideon, distressed by the Cleaners intrusion, to their cause
Phoebe hangs out with her new boss, Jason, Paige, impressed by the meet with Prue,devotes herself to full-time magic, doing some temps job for not burdening the sisters, seeing that she is still living alone
She saves Larry, meets and falls in love with Richard
No Excalibur (which never had magical powers, but it's only a symbol of royalty), the sisters save Derek's half manticore son and save Chris from his journey into the future with Bianca
Piper discovers Magic School, which is not a school but a kind of witch-family home for abandoned or orphaned young witches and the sisters get to know Gideon
Phoebe has a vision of her future, only of her, no teacher Paige or Piper's sons,and the vision of a future daughter fills her with nostalgia for her little Charlotte
During Piper's disastrous birthday, Chris has to admit the truth about the reason for his return to the past
Piper, scared, calls Prue, that promises she'll investigate on her whitelighter
Prue asks him out to P3 and,watching him, asks if he is Wyatt's little brother, becasue he resembles Piper a lot: Chris admits it and tells his story
He tells how, on his fourteenth birthday, Victor rushed to school to warn him and Wyatt that Piper and Phoebe had been killed in the kitchen of the Manor, Paige had been found injured and in a state of total amnesia among window panes
Chris tells of the tough years, of the problems among the Elders and Leo who wanted the boys to grow up under their tutelage in the Magic School and he and Wyatt, backed by Victor, that didn't want to give up their lives, among the social services that thought it'ld be impossible that Victor can grow also Phoebe's daughters - their father had disappeared - against Paige, physically delicate, with severe leaks in her memory and Victor who didn't want to give up the girls
Prue had to return from the island, tampering with a spell the documentation of her death, to assume the official legal protection of the girl
And yet, when after Paige's mysterious murder Wyatt definitely went out of control, Chris, to protect his five cousins from the war that had been unleashed, took the children to the Valkyries'island, where he met Bianca, raised by Freya after she lost her mother
Prue herself managed to give him the Valkyries's support seeing that he was stubbornly determined to go back to change the past
Phoebe hears part of the conversation, Prue asks her to keep it a secret as not to create additional temporal influences, then she cheer up Piper, she 'ld turst her whitelighter and don't get worried too much about Wyatt
Piper never lost her faith in her big sister so she believs Chris
I love I Dream of Phoebe and The Courtship of Wyatt's Father and also the following two episodes, the first of which I'ld keep only the meeting Victor- Chris,in the second I'ld remove all the magic world part
Witch Wars convinces them that Wyatt is safe, Leo agrees to go with Chris, Gideon prevents the use of potions and interferes on the spell, Leo and Chris enter the attic, go down the stairs and meet Piper, a Piper in her 50s, smiling and serene while she is chatting with her daughter Melinda, a kind of brunette version of the twenty-five Wyatt
With huge astonishment, Leo understands that they are in (Morality Bites)the timelinein which Phoebe was executed
On their own timelines, meanwhile, Gideon creates a diversion to shed Paige from the Manor, then he visits Piper and magically hastens the delivery
Gideon volunteers to look after Wyatt while Phoebe rushes to the hospital with her sister
Gideon close the Manor door
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