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Post by erikamarie on Jun 16, 2016 3:25:22 GMT -5
I voted season 8 because I like totally human Leo and season 4 because I like a lot Cole and Leo friendship in that season
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Post by erikamarie on Jun 10, 2016 10:05:23 GMT -5
I loved that scene! I love when Piper's aggressive side of Piper finally comes out
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Post by erikamarie on Jun 1, 2016 1:08:10 GMT -5
I knew only a few of the quoted series I voted Friends, Senfield and X File, I watched also Ally Mcbeal, I like only the first two seasons, Twin Peaks, which should have been shorter and less chaotic, but I appreciate the grey atmosphere, ER first season, a newness in rhythms and characters, but I don't like medical stories I watched Buffy also, but I am not, I never was, a big fan of teenagers stories, it was a kind of Dawson Creek (of which I saw three episodes, more than enough) with vampires and I love only Anne Rice style vampires
Never seen Hercules or Xena, I don't like the series related to myths, generally misused
I don't watch a lot of TV, but I like the after 2001 series better
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Post by erikamarie on Jun 1, 2016 0:53:36 GMT -5
I agree, I watched both and I love Charmed and don't love Buffy,and this is my personal opinion, I love shows that no one here seem have ever watched, many fans talk about fantasy show as Sabrina or Supergirl that I have not the slightest desire to see We are different people with different tastes and habits and it's the difference that makes a discussion lively and interesting Exactly so. We all have different tastes and it can be annoying if we compare other shows to charmed people dont watch. Why that discussion needs its own thread or board. There are shows people may not like that I do. Like I hate game of thrones. Yet its so popular with everyone. I seem to not jump on board so quickly with shows that everyone says oh but everyone likes it they go. I have a mind of my own but that doesnt mean i oppose those discussions. Thats just a personal opinion and view. But its nice to see that even though charmed is what brings us all together. We still have other habits and tastes in other shows. Thats the fun of forums and discussions. Good point, fallen on deaf ears, I see There are particular feeling that bind to a series I am a fanatic of Lost, which of course is not perfect because perfection, fortunately, doesn't exist, and I also appreciate Games of Throne but I'm quoting well-written series, well-acted, high-quality products Yet, a serie to which I am linked is Roswel: poorly written, badly acted, full of inconsistencies and ingenuity, very improvised seen that the writers never knew how long it'ld survive But I love it, love is always mysterious
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Post by erikamarie on Jun 1, 2016 0:43:09 GMT -5
Interesting that I did point out before. The first four seasons had a night start before the last four had a daytime opening start. Already like they set the tone for the season. Plus didnt those last four have terrible openings scenes to a season. I find myself feeling its a typical episode. The tone of season 5 you can already feel is light with how they open it than how they opened those first four during a night setting. But those first four have fantastic openings that leave me with a great impression and great way to start a season. Season 1s is great and sets a great and serious tone for the series. Again a night start. Season 2s with the full moon. The sisters being demon free and being attacked and loose the book. Wow a great opening start to a season. Its interesting that when i rewatch season 3 and Prue is the first sister seen. I feel this tone and connection to Prue now going into her final season. Season 4 with Piper in the attic with Phoebe and then Paige. Again a great way to start a season. Watching A Witches Tail i have to cringe with the light feel and our first daytime start and Phoebe being a celebrity now with bilboards already setting up a terrible tone for that second half of the series. Season 6 starts with Phoebe being interviewed at a summer beach event. Gosh more Phoebe as a celebrity. Season 7 starts at the manorchanging dipers with this comedy-like music score. Season 8 starts with the charmed ones fake funeral. Okay the only slightly decent opening than the seasons before it. But yeah again. I prefer the way they opened those early seasons than the later ones. The serious tone was better and its not a coincidence that it was night in those ones and day in the later ones. Gosh that might make a good poll to base it off the opening scene/teaser and how you feel about the tone it sets for the season going forward. Interesting. I hadn't thought about the way the first episode of a season starts. Those first scenes are definitely better in the first few. I think night has more of a scare factor and the fact that in those cases they are the beginning of a change. Season one, they are about to gain back their powers and Phoebe is moving back in. Season two a demon break about to end. Season three, Piper's about to return and the introduction into their lives of Cole. Four, the beginning of their lives without Prue and their lives with Paige. I don't really see the change in five. Phoebe's divorce, but that was already in the works, so it doesn't feel so new. The only new thing for season six's opener is Phoebe's new power, because at that point Piper's situation is not new to them. No comment on seven, but really nothing there. Now, season eight at least starts with a change. They are about to return to fighting evil even if they aren't ready to return completely yet and we have yet another introduction to a new character who is important to the season, because no matter what you think of her, Billie is important to the season. They say that you should start a story when the character's life is about to change. Think of each season as a new story, one that should start with their lives about to change or just in the process of changing. It should never be same old, same old for a season premier. I truly love only the openings of the season one and four and, unlike all, I like Valhalley of the Dolls which leads Charmed in shades of the light comedy, the episode is full of funny lines and I don't reckon the sisters dressed as centurions neither scandalous nor sexy The three years of the Charmed Ones have night openings, the transition year, with the beautiful opening with Piper calling for Prue, begins almost at dawn, the years of the new Power of Three, with a less powerful witch provided with Whitelighter's powers, they start in the daylight, I had never noticed, nice remark
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Post by erikamarie on May 26, 2016 11:42:19 GMT -5
That flash forward was a fan service, a lot of fans love it, becuase it'ld be nice to remember that the Cafè gather an infinitesimal part of Charmed fans Three children have to like enough to TV writers, even Castle ended with a flash forward showing the protagonists with three children I don't like the inconsistencies of Forever Charmed, especially that they used Penny and Patty to restore the Power of Three, I would rather see flash forward with 10 children each sister, in order not to see that totally meaningless scene, a denial of the very existence of the Charmed Ones! Unbearable!
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Post by erikamarie on May 23, 2016 10:54:09 GMT -5
ROFL! You're so right about that. But Charmed is the first show I've watched that mixed up Valkyries for Amazons. I'm sure it's just so they could use "Valhalla of the Dolls" as a title, just like "Oh, My Goddess!" when those three were so obviously not the Greek Titans who were beaten by the Greek gods, not the Elders. They did mix up Valyries and Amazons. First thing i thought watching was are they dressing up as Xena or Amazons. So I feel it was more a stunt to get the charmed ones to play dress up. Which was the trend from season 5 onwards. However the one time Kern gets a pass since he wanted sword and the city as the opener but WB said no. So we got stuck with the terribly written Valyries 2-parter. Still as a fan of greek mythology and Hercules and Xena growing up. I felt let down by Charmeds greek mythology and cant take it seriously. If the show wasnt on WB, we would be spared these episodes or a better crafted one. They were not even dressed as Amazons: according to Pausania, the Amazons wore untanned leather leggings, untanned leather short capes and carded wool padding to protect the breast from the shoulder strap, the legend that they cut off their left breast to better hold the arch was part of their propaganda to scare the enemies,always according to Pausania I don't pretend that a costume designer knew the ancient writers but I think she'll be gone to a movie theatre, she'ld have seen the Gladiator: how could she never notice to have dressed the Valkyries as centurions?
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Post by erikamarie on May 23, 2016 0:34:49 GMT -5
Phoebe in her early seasons, ahe was so positive and passionate Piper season 4-8, the shy little mouse turns into a tiger, illogical, sweet, aggressive, protective, I love Piper of the last seasons
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Post by erikamarie on May 23, 2016 0:27:10 GMT -5
Which Mythology period did you like the best and why? I liked a lot the monsters of the first two seasons I love Greek mythology and its complexity of thought, related to the birth of philosophy and I hate the way it has been trivialized, but that it's not a Charmed mistake only, too many Tv show writers confuse Olympus with Disneyland
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Post by erikamarie on May 23, 2016 0:20:18 GMT -5
Here's what Phoebe says the Book of Shadows says: Source: charmedscripts.tv/something_wicca.htmI take that to mean that other lines could produce witches who are more powerful - as long as they're younger than the Charmed Ones, which means I've been wrong all along about the Jenkinses - their line could've been set up to producer the most powerful warlocks the world has ever known, the ones who might have been destined to destroy the Charmed Ones - as they did in 'Kill Billie, Vol 2.' (remember, I count 'Forever Crap' as Piper's delusion as she and the other two die after that attack.) But I also definitely take it to mean that none of the Charmed Ones' children could be more powerful than the Charmed Ones. In fact, I still take it to mean that the Charmed Ones' children would still be witches, but would never have the three Warren powers - they'd have different ones, setting them up for a different destiny. So no moving things with the mind, no seeing the future and no stopping time. Other powers like freezing molecules or speeding up molecules or fire-starting or empathy or levitation or astral projection or other powers instead. How 'bout you? How would you interpret Phoebe's words? Since they're part of the series premiere, those words are what set up the Charmed mythology that should've been followed for the rest of the series. I agree with you In Charmed universe there are powerful witches, like the Jenkins or Marx family, but the Charmed Ones were meant to be the most powerful of all time and not only through the Power of Three, in Morality Bites, though they were far from magic, they were extraordinarily powerful None of their children can be as powerful as them, Wyatt is the exception because he was born in a magical day who gave him an innate ability to use magic, which instead his mother and her sisters had to learn to practice For this reason, I wasn't upset because of the flash forward of Forever Charmed, the sisters had children, it is normal, it's not guaranteed that they themselves will be witches, it's certain that they will never be like their mothers Re watching the episodes, I realized how many things are said and written and are just fans'convictions For example, no one has ever said that the sisters had a destiny to fulfill Other example, the prophecy about Wyatt says only that the magic will stop at the birth of a child: ambiguous information, indeed Crone'll look into in order to understand how much power the child may possess And the simple formula Twice Blessed, typical blessing of the medieval poetry, became a title linked to having as parents a Whitelighter and a witch
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Post by erikamarie on May 16, 2016 11:10:43 GMT -5
I voted Witch Way Now
The introduction of Angels of Destiny was one of the worst inventions of Charmed Charmed by birth and inheritance law, the three sisters were perfectly capable of "suspend" their powers if they wished it, without any need for rewards Moreover, the Angels of Destiny have a strange logic: the sisters stopped the Apocalypse but no one seems to notice it, then they vanquish a boss of evil and everyone claps, obviously they are more interested in their games of power that in the fate of the world
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Post by erikamarie on May 16, 2016 10:53:52 GMT -5
I voted All Halliwell's Eve and Chris-Crossed, two of my favorite top five
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Post by erikamarie on May 16, 2016 10:50:26 GMT -5
I voted taking into account Grannycharmed's hints so I chose Charmed again - never be forgotten Grams that curtly asks Phoebe to improvise a spell - and Witchstock - equally unforgettable Grams who takes command of the situation, sends her granddaughters in the past and straightens Chris up
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Post by erikamarie on May 12, 2016 10:15:42 GMT -5
Run, Piper, Run (-1)
Kill Billie: Vol.1 (3)
The Lost Picture Show (3)
Hulkus Pocus (5)
Vaya Con Leos (17)
Payback's a Witch (25)
12 Angry Zen (-1)
The Last Temptation of Christy (9)
Engaged and Confused (23)
The Torn Identity (7)
The Jung and the Restless (29)
Kill Billie: Vol. 2 (35)
OUT:
Repo Manor (-5)
Rewitched (-5)
Still Charmed and Kicking (-5)
Malice in Wonderland (-5)
Gone with the Witches (-5)
Mr. & Mrs. Witch (-5)
Desperate Housewitches (-5)
Forever Charmed (-5)
Battle of the Hexes (-5)
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Post by erikamarie on May 12, 2016 10:08:49 GMT -5
It was the perfect ending for the alternate-universe spin-off, "The Perils of Poor, Poor Pitiful Piper" (aka S4-8) and should've been entitled "Forever Piper" since we really have no idea what happened to Phoebe or Paige - it was just all about Piper. Of course, that was Alyssa's and Rose's fault - not even around for the series finale - but even so... As an episode, it's not bad. As a season finale it's not bad - there are several I hate a whole lot more - but as a series finale, it simply stunk because it was so dagnab inconsistent with the rest of Charmed. During the summer after it aired, I used the spoilers to write my own version, "Charmed Forever", and it's my all-time most popular fanfic with over 250 reviews at fanfiction.net, even if it's not the way I would've actually ended Charmed - just the way I would've fixed it. Here were all the things I wanted to (and did) fix: 1. How Piper survived that explosion at the end of 'Kill Billie, Vol 2' without a broken bone since her powers should not have been able to protect her from the explosion.
2. Why the Hollow didn’t go out of Piper and Billie until a being of good and a being of evil said the spell on the Hollow’s box
3. How Piper and Dumain, both non-cupids, were able to use a cupid’s ring, which is only used to amplify and direct a cupid's power
3. Why we only saw Piper and Leo as old and not Phoebe, Coop, Paige or Henry
4. Why Old Piper and Old Leo in the future knew what Piper and Leo were going to do, but Wyatt and Chris had no idea and neither did S6 Chris
5. Why Patty’s idea of three generations of Halliwells tapping into the Power of Three worked, when only three sisters descended from Melinda Warren are supposed to be able to tap into the Power of Three
6. Why Penny didn’t recognize Piper from 'That 70’s Episode' when she said a spell to delete it from little Prue and little Piper's memory, not from hers and Patty's.
7. Why Wyatt ever had his powers in the future, if he’d lost them to the Jenkinses as a toddler
8. Why Henry wasn’t part of the final all-generation hug and why Chris didn't hug Leo
9. How the Charmed Ones were able to write down what would happen in the future when they hadn’t lived it yet
10. How Leo, an ex-whitelighter with no powers, could possibly handle magical children while trying to teach themHad they just fixed those and ended it just three months later with the three sisters walking up the steps, admiring the pictures on the wall which would include shots of all of them, not just Piper and her family - especially the shot of Little Prue and Little Piper with their hands on Patty's tummy, so Prue would've been part of it - I would've enjoyed it as a finale, because it would've truly been "Forever CHARMED" and not "Forever Piper, I mean Forever Crap, I mean Forever Charmed". Although I understand that the end had to take into account the wishes of many fans, I agree with much of your points They are above all two things I can not stand Cupid's ring: detestable solution, apart from the correct observation that Piper'ld not use it, Piper'ld be able to invent a spell, a potion, a spell plus a potion, to go back Patty’s idea of being her and her mother able to tap the Power of Three: they were witches, powerful witches but not Charmed Ones Piper'ld have to summon Prue (to hell with the whims of the actress, Prue'ld have taken a different aspect to cheat the Elders) and maybe to use her first born's power to go back The others are venial inconsistencies, Wyatt and Chris's cameo made no sense, but the fans were hoping to see them for the last time, Leo able to handle magical children, well, he'll have to learn it as father of two powerful sons Maybe we saw only Old Leo and Old Piper Because Phoebe and Paige are dead or because they only are living in the Manor and all those children are Wyatt and Chris' Instead I loved the scene where they begin to write about their past and then talk about their lives, as voices from the future, even if I'ld have rather to see a series of images from the past, or better still if they closed the circle: Phpebe starts writing and appears the imagine of her who returns from New York under the rain
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Post by erikamarie on May 11, 2016 13:05:42 GMT -5
I understand that the fans wished to see for the last time the most beloved characters but I'ld do without Patty and Penny and I'ld like better if it finished with a flashback: the sisters start to write their story and appear the most meaningful images of their eight years as witches
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Post by erikamarie on May 11, 2016 12:34:23 GMT -5
I told it in other threads: I like a lot this episode There are often stories that have troubled life due to external reasons but are able to fascinate, maybe precisely because of their flaws
About AHBL, I like something that bother many fans, it begins with the story already begun, we are thrown into the action, it is an episode that fills with questions we can answer with all the hypotheses that we wish I especially like it because it reminds me of The Enemy Within, Star Trek Let me explain: Kirk is split into two, at the time I was 11, I was struck by the discovery that the bad Kirk was fundamental to Captain Kirk's personality
In AHBL the theme is similar: Prue is the older sister, Grams set she had to take on the responsibility of her younger sisters, she had to develop a strong personality, perfect for making decisions, she was a woman destined to stand out But the events of the third season break the balance inside her and her reckless side (see Piper's wedding)takes power: the confidence that was one of her best features will lead her to a recklessness that unleashed the events that will provoke her death
Piper is my favorite sister, I'ld like to have a sister like her, Patty said that she was the heart of the family and it was true but her ability to mediate between Prue and Phoebe's opposing personalities, trying to please both is a beautiful quality in real life, but she's also a witch, a witch who has to face difficult trials and her lack of the required badness (it'll come only after pregnancy) will lead her to an indulgence (she'ld have to tell Prue to wait at home and Phoebe to stay at home) that unleashed the events that will provoke Prue's death
Phoebe is an enthusiastic witch, that admirable generosity, a beautiful quality, which leads her to take care of the innocent, it'll lead her to Underwold, having to save at all costs the love of her life: a cooler, less impulsive temperament, would think about the enormous risks involved going for a walk among the demons
In AHBL, the best side of the sisters personality is the one causing the disaste
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 28, 2016 15:07:45 GMT -5
Probably Es is right In the original timeline, the sisters in 2009 have the kind of power predicted by Melinda Prue meets a very powerful but also resolved, rich and successful herself She realizes she is a very lonely woman and her refusal of magic has caused damage even to her sisters If the journey into the future get what was the true Elders's purpose,to prevent Prue's moving away from magic and her sisters, indirectly influences her making Prue more fearless
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 28, 2016 15:01:12 GMT -5
I was a teen, and as a teenager I was fascinated by the magic that affect the lives of ordinary women and their sisterhood
Three years ago, during sleepless nights because of my twins, I was trying to relax by watching TV and I rewatched Charmed I found that, after all these years, after the new beautiful series that I'm passionate about, Charmed preserved intact its charm for me and above all, I realized how many themes, many interesting and original ideas as a young girl I had overlooked
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 28, 2016 14:53:04 GMT -5
I agree, even in my architects's study, if we receive our customers we dress in a suited way, habitually, as we like
With regard to the costumes: as goddesses, the sisters wore very normal costumes, inspired by the clothes of ancient Greece women, often consisting of a single rectangle of cloth, not sewn but draped around the body, with almost identical styles both for men and women Respecting the Valkyries dressed as Amazons: they used outfits as ther were females centurions, fortunately: according to Pausanias, when the Amazons attacked, were bare-breasted
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