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Post by Charmedfan on Jan 5, 2009 0:51:44 GMT -5
^^
true i was just thinking about it and came up with that theroy
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Post by whitelightertony on Jan 17, 2009 16:47:42 GMT -5
Sure it could. In the timeline from "Morality Bites," Piper and Leo could have conceived Melinda at a different point in time from whenever Wyatt was conceived in the timeline that actually came to pass.
If you conceive a child on Tuesday, it could be a male. But if you waited until the following Friday to conceive, the child could be female -- even if it happened during the same week.
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Post by Quadquetra on Mar 1, 2009 21:54:27 GMT -5
Your right about that whitelightertony.
I mean look at it this way the girl appeared to be about 7 or 8 which means she would have been conceived around the time Prue died well in that time line Prue wasn't dead so maybe something like in that reality they all went on a cruise or a vacation and Melinda was conceived then but in the real reality instead of a vacation they were mourning for Prue lol i feel weird saying conceived so many times. But either way i think Piper should have had 3 girls i mean like patty said she was the heart of the family she should carry the next Charmed Ones. I liked Wyatt and everything but i mean im with Grams lol Melinda was her baby. ;D
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 2, 2009 11:00:11 GMT -5
Except that when Melinda Warren touched PHOEBE's heart, *that's* when she saw the long line of strong women. For Phoebe to have the next set of Charmed Ones is perfect continuity. Something like the "C" in "All Halliwell's Eve" being continuity since it could've meant either Cole or Coop, I'm sure the fact that PHOEBE was the one who ended up with three daughters (and I'm sure that's because they wanted three different versions of three's, including a male named after his father so they could be sure that we knew the name of all three males without knowing the name of any of the females, and Coop, Jr. would've sounded weird, so hence we got Henry, Jr., even if that doesn't sound like something either Henry or Paige would've done), was just a coincidence, but a cool one, all the same.
Piper WAS the heart of the family until Prue died. Then the heart grew ice-cold and never warmed up, becoming hard and selfish and self-pitying through the rest of the series, something you don't want the next set of Charmed Ones to be. For Phoebe to have the next set of Charmed Ones (especially because they were now half-cupids who would care for innocents) makes a lot more sense.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Mar 2, 2009 13:59:28 GMT -5
Except the CharmedOnes arent a every generation thing, they dont keep showing up everytime three sisters are born. So far its a once in a lifetime type of calling. And dont even get me started on the whole half cupid half witch thing....
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Post by ljones on Mar 2, 2009 14:46:24 GMT -5
Why would Piper being "the heart" of the family mean that she should have three girls? Why should gender matter?
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Post by Quadquetra on Mar 2, 2009 14:57:34 GMT -5
Well to me it seems the heart of the family should carry one the traditions such as having all girls. And yeah charmedfaith i see where your coming from about not an every generation thing but if it was i believe piper should be the mother of the next CO's. And im also with you on the half cupid half witch thing.
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 2, 2009 21:30:59 GMT -5
I would've prefered Paige having the three girls and being the mother of the next set of Charmed Ones--after all, then their father would be mortal like Victor was, giving them a firm set on reality, besides having both witch and whitelighter powers like their mother. But since IF there is a second set of Charmed Ones in this next generation (IF Forever Charmed is real, which I don't think it is) it would have to be three sisters descended from Melinda Warren, it would have to be Phoebe's daughters. Had Wyatt been Melinda and Chris been Christina as they should've been and had Piper had a third daughter, then she would be the mother of the next set of Charmed Ones. With her as their mother, I don't think they would've made as good of a set of Charmed Ones as Phoebe's daughters or Paige's daughters, but they would've been the next set of Charmed Ones nonetheless.
Thinking about that, although I think Prudence Melinda should've been born rather than Wyatt, I'm glad it was Wyatt who was born, so there was no way that Piper could become the mother of the next set of Charmed Ones, since as shown by S6 Chris, they would've been as selfish and self-centered and self-pitying and whiney (and who cares about innocents, let's just use our magic for us and our family) as their mother. Who needs a whole set of Charmed Ones like that?
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Post by ljones on Mar 3, 2009 1:10:44 GMT -5
Why? Why should gender matter?
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Post by Holly Combs on Mar 9, 2009 17:14:50 GMT -5
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Post by Piper3 on Mar 15, 2009 0:39:49 GMT -5
Wyatt no doubt. As for the next charmedones, one of the charmedones couldn't give birth to the next set it would be to soon. They would have to come later. But if one of them were to have them I would hope it would be Paige because I think she was must focused on helping innocents and typically didn't let her emotions cloud her better judgement.
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Post by ljones on Mar 15, 2009 12:00:18 GMT -5
Why would anyone assume that there will a new generation of Charmed Ones?
What if the prophecy about the Charmed Ones has already been achieved by the current generation?
Did the prophecy state that there will always be a set of "Charmed Ones" if there are three or more siblings in the Warren line?
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Post by moondance on Mar 15, 2009 15:21:16 GMT -5
I like wyatte and the fact that he is a boy something diffrent for a change;)
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 15, 2009 15:37:27 GMT -5
So it's OK to screw up all of the previous stuff if it's different? I've somehow never understood that rationalization, but enough fans sure bought into it.
I for one didn't, but that's probably because I'm a writer who finds plots much more interesting when they're consistent, which makes the whole thing seem more real.
As such, it most definitely should've been Prudence Melinda, just like she was in the Morality Bites future, and IF she had a brother who came from the future, he should've had no powers at all.
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Post by ljones on Mar 16, 2009 11:07:36 GMT -5
Why? Considering that Prue was alive in that particular timeline, why was it necessary for things to remain the same, despite Prue being dead and Paige being part of the Charmed Ones. Isn't it possible that the sisters' restraint from interferring with that Assistant D.A.'s dog and later, Prue's death, had changed matters?
And again . . . what is with this obssession that only women in the Warren line can have powers? This was a theory that Prue drummed up and told Andy. No one ever told Prue or the other sisters that males in the Warren line could not have powers.
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 16, 2009 11:44:41 GMT -5
Nope, because none of that should've changed the fact that only female members of the Warren line had powers and that whitelighters don't receive their powers until they are dead and had earned their wings no matter if their fathers were whitelighters or not because those powers are not powers that can be passed down, since they're powers that are EARNED, not inherited.
Both things were changed to make the show "fresh". And to me, that's not a good enough reason for messing with the established mythology. As soon as they changed both so-important parts of the mythology, it was no longer within the same universe as the previous episodes, but an alternate universe where rules no longer existed, in fact they were made to be broken.
Had they wanted to continue to make the Charmedverse seem real and if they wanted a baby with powers, she had to be Prudence Melinda, not Wyatt. Paige should never have had whitelighter powers, only witch ones, preferably only TK and AP like Prue, and Chris, if he existed, should've had no powers at all, or better, should've been Christine.
But again, that's just me. If others don't mind things messed up as long as it makes it fresh, then it didn't bother them and that's always their perogative.
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Post by Astral Echo on Mar 16, 2009 18:15:21 GMT -5
So what? You want Paige to have telekinesis and astral projection so then she's a carbon copy of Prue and simply a replacement for Shannen Doherty rather than a new character all together?
That doesn't sound particularly respectful to either actress and as a big fan of Shannen Doherty, I'm surprised to see you write that!
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 16, 2009 19:50:03 GMT -5
Since when does having the same powers mean you're the same person?? That's the problem when powers is more important to fans than the characters!
Prue was the oldest, trained by Grams to be a substitute mother. Paige was raised as an independent, quirky only child, completely totally different. Of course, just because they have the same powers, Paige and Prue would not have been the same person--you surprise me by even suggesting it, Astral Echo!
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Post by ljones on Mar 17, 2009 1:21:09 GMT -5
When Prue claimed that only the family's female inherited magical powers, she had no real evidence to back this claim. Like the other members of her family, she made an assumption and claimed that it was true. I don't understand this obssession with gender. The idea that only the females of the Warren line can only inherit powers strike me as nothing more than sexism. Was that supposed to be Constance Burge's idea of feminine empowerment? Harboring sexist attitudes toward men? It doesn't make any sense. If both men and women can be witches, why can't both genders of the Warren line be witches?  The more I think of it, the more I'm glad that Piper's two oldest children turned out to be males. Which only tells me that Penny Johnson Halliwell was a piss poor parent. You don't train a 7-8 year-old child to be a substitute parent. What was she thinking? No wonder Prue ended up emotionally screwed. By the way, whitelighters are given their powers once they ascend to that state. They do not earn them. |
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Post by Astral Echo on Mar 17, 2009 11:28:41 GMT -5
Since when does having the same powers mean you're the same person?? That's the problem when powers is more important to fans than the characters! Prue was the oldest, trained by Grams to be a substitute mother. Paige was raised as an independent, quirky only child, completely totally different. Of course, just because they have the same powers, Paige and Prue would not have been the same person--you surprise me by even suggesting it, Astral Echo! Fair comment but you know Kern would f*ck it. He would make Paige a carbon copy of Prue, he tried to as it was but giving them the same powers? Where is the originality in that? |
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