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Post by erikamarie on Feb 8, 2010 10:36:43 GMT -5
It is a unique event and so it's right otherwise it would not make sense to spend three hundred years of preparation to get to a such power
Wyatt is unique too, his possible children should be normal witches
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Post by erikamarie on Feb 4, 2010 12:05:58 GMT -5
Maybe he didn't want to be an handyman and work around
You talk as if Leowas an idiot incapable of making choices: in fact he chose to marry Piper he chose to become an Avatar, he chose to turn mortal
I like Leo character and I give him enough credit to think that he chose to live the life he wanted to live
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Post by erikamarie on Feb 4, 2010 11:59:51 GMT -5
from Something Wicca This Way Comes
Phoebe: I'm serious. She practiced powers. Three powers. She could move objects with her mind, see the future and stop time. Before Melinda was burned at the stake, she vowed that each generation of Warren witches would become stronger and stronger, culminating in the arrival of three sisters
Culminating:the power of Three is the culmination of the power of the Warren line so there will be no more power of Three even though it'll be born other three sisters, Phoebe's line cannot continue the Power of Three
Wyatt actually has nothing to do with the vision of Melinda Warren,his power comes from an astral configuration
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Post by erikamarie on Feb 4, 2010 11:41:47 GMT -5
What work could he do? He left med school during World War II so he wasn't able to be even a nursing auxiliary
probably Leo prefered to help at P3 and at home, no one has ever forbidden to look for a job, rather the job to the magic school was a Piper's idea
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Post by erikamarie on Feb 4, 2010 11:04:00 GMT -5
I agree; Piper is always kind to others, we saw her behavior with Billie and Christy and their parents
It is no coincidence that the angel of destiny orders Leo's death : recalling Piper reaction at Prue death the angel needs that she turned back into that angry Piper because she could have the ability to kill Billie and Christy
The normal Piper is too maternal and toonice to be able to do what the angel of destiny wants
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Post by erikamarie on Feb 4, 2010 10:41:12 GMT -5
When Dan looked into Leo, Piper and Leo had not yet decided to marry. Piper did Leo's false documents when they decide to apply for marriage license,for this reason in Charmed & Dangerous Piper may designate Leo as her heir
About Prue's will, I think Piper would say that Prue left her Manor share to her sisters thereby avoiding any retaliation of any cousins even of Victor
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Post by erikamarie on Feb 1, 2010 8:08:13 GMT -5
She nearly destroyed San Francisco when she was under the influence of the powers of the gods, powers that were unsuitable for a human being, even if she was a witch
If sometimes you watched the episodes from the sixth season you would know that, after returning to her senses from Leo's spell , Piper has never said or asked anything
Valhalley of the Dolls, Pt 2
Piper: I need some space from you. I mean, who knows this might actually turn out to be a good thing for me in the long run. I might be able to live some semblance of a normal life. Not being married to an angel. I get why you have to leave, Leo, and I understand that you can't ignore your calling, but I do have to deal with it somehow. With being alone, with being a single mother, and I can't really do that with you hanging around the house. I'm sorry. Leo, please, I need this.
Love's A Witch
Leo: Piper. I wanna apologise.
Piper: For what?
Leo: For being around so much. I know you asked for your space and I wanna honour that but it's just with Chris.
Piper: Yeah, no, I understand, I'm not upset.
Leo: Good.
Piper: Actually, I don't really think it's necessary anymore. Besides, I can't really think of a better babysitter for Wyatt than his daddy.
Leo: Really? Anytime.
Piper: I know this hasn't been easy for you either, but I really appreciate it, it's given me some time to think.
Leo: About?
Piper: About where we go from here. And I think it's time maybe we make it official. You know, legal
Hyde School Reunion
Paige: Maybe he should have a father son talk.
Piper: No, I can't do that to Leo. He had a hard enough time letting go. Besides, he doesn't even know that I'm pregnant.
Paige: I know, but don't boys need their...
Piper: I know, and that's why I called my father so he could figure out why his surly new grandson hates me
Spin City
Paige: Why don't we just call Leo?
Chris: No, no.
Paige: Why not? He can help us. Besides, Piper's in danger, which means the baby's in danger, which means you are in danger.
Chris: Because we don't need him.
Piper: Yeah, he's right, I don't want to open up that can of worms.
Paige: He doesn't even know you're pregnant.
Piper: This is my point exactly
It's always Leo who resolves to go back or not to go, never Piper
The Courtship of Wyatt's Father
Leo: Well, neither one of us wanted me to become an Elder.But I did anyway. I was supposed to go up there right away but I didn't.
Piper: Because you wanted to find out who Chris was and to protect Wyatt.
Leo: They're not the only reasons I didn't go up there, Piper. I was holding onto you. And because of that I put you at risk and I put my son at risk. I can't let that happen anymore, I won't let that happen
Spin City
Piper: Besides, I'm only an orb away if the girls need me.
Leo: No, I told them to call me first.
Piper: You? You're not going back up there?
Leo: No. My family needs me here right now.
Love Hurts
Leo: No. World War II. I left med school and enlisted as a medic. I wanted to help save people not shoot them. The last thing I remember, I was bandaging a soldier's head wound and I felt a sharp pain and the next thing I know I was floating surrounded by White Lighters. They offered me immortality and the chance to help special people like you. I never once ever doubted that I didn't make the right choice. Till I met you. Ever since all I can think is how I'd give it up and have a mortal life again to have a family, grow old... with you.
Piper: Is that possible?
Leo: Yeah, I can become human again, Piper, if you want me to.
Leo and only leo takes the decision to return mortal
The Seven Year Witch
Leo: I just can’t believe it. I don’t have powers anymore. I don’t hear jingling. I can’t orb.
Piper: Is that bad?
Leo: Are you kidding? It’s great. It’s everything I’ve wanted ever since the day I met you
The shy and sweet Piper from the first three seasons improves after Prue death she can no longer rely on her big sister she has to grow and harden and she does it but the she remains the sweet Piper who takes care of all
In the eighth season she supports an husband and two sisters, when she is arrested, even if she risks to be discovered (the Elders went back on them and they had to face alone the problem of the government who investigates them) she does not give up helping the girl unjustly accused,she takes Christy in her home, cooks for her, she fits her clothes for her,she asks her parents over, she prepares the engagement party for Paige,she keeps being the heart of the Charmed Ones
She has to do it all herself,with all those people to keep! In addition, she is the manager of P3, that is her job.Piper had the idea to ask Leo to teachin the magic school,she would not have done it if she had wanted him as her personal errand boy
I do not see nothing wrong asking a man to look after his children or to go shopping
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Post by erikamarie on Jan 29, 2010 5:22:41 GMT -5
Leo not only got his promotion Leo had to leave Piper alone with their child for all she knows Piper could not see him again, as if he were dead
if you love someone and it disappears from yours and your child life, you certainly can not be in the disposition of mind to congratulate
I have never seen any self-pity in Piper but rather the energy to rebuild a life for herself and her children
As for Leo little errand boys .. Piper works, has a house and two children, she has also to maintain a sister,sometimes two sisters should she also bring breakfast in bed to her husband?
It seems right to me that Leo helped, did shopping looked after their children and fixed the car that she bought
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Post by erikamarie on Jan 29, 2010 5:03:35 GMT -5
Among the four elements fire is the means of transformation more radical,nothing could be fire resistant
you are right,some witches are firestaters but fire power is portrayed as a power rare on the side of good, common on the side of evil
Charmed writers were often ignorant in a frightening way but some of them had a rather good knowledge of the subject
the power of fire is often associated with evil in the Middle Ages, I remember a lecture of history of art in which they spoke of the ancient negative view of the Fire tied to Aeschylus and his Prometheus: in this tragedy, Prometheus apparently is acting on behalf of humanity, but he does so in the wrong way, by means of deception, and his action will have serious repercussions on the conditions of the entire human race. Prometheus annihilates the principium individuationis must differentiate the men from the gods and the men immediately use fire as a weapon
For this reason once the firewas used by the "wicked men" and perhaps someone in Charmed remembered it
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Post by erikamarie on Jan 24, 2010 16:02:35 GMT -5
In Morality Bites the magic is revealed because of Phoebe
In Chris Crossed also the magic is revealed,even if no one knows by whom and how
In Forever Charmed nobody says what had happened in the future, there are only the ambiguous Piper's words" And although we certainly had our struggles and heartaches over the years, we're a family of survivors"
this is what will happen, the magic will be revealed?
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Post by erikamarie on Jan 24, 2010 15:48:18 GMT -5
when a spell backfire, this is an innner law of magic that regulates itself, not a punishment by the Elders
And then what right have the Elders to punish? They should be the guides not the dictators of the magical world
As for Chris, he is back in the past only to save Wyatt, so he has to allow the Titans to attack the Elders or the future'ld change too much in an erratic way
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Post by erikamarie on Jan 24, 2010 15:30:27 GMT -5
the Charmed Ones were responsible for well over a thousand demon vanquishes,said the tour guide,I think that vanquishing more than a thousand demons have taken several years
Moreover, during the vision quest Phoebe sees the future not yet changed and sees Piper with two children who must be between ten and twelve years.Though it makes no sense thinking of Chris lying about his age when Piper died (for what?),the tour guide words and Phoebe' s vision indicate that Piper has lived a dozen years afterChris birth
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Post by erikamarie on Jan 21, 2010 11:22:34 GMT -5
Chris crossed, the tour guide "Actually, the Charmed Ones were responsible for well over a thousand demon vanquishes before they were finally vanquished themselves."
This way we could think of a great battle in which all three were killed, I believe in Chris's story, so I think that Piper was the first dying,then without the power of Three it was easier to kill Phoebe and Paige
I'l lnever believe that Wyatt may have killed someone in his family
In Imaginary Friend he threats leo but he does not dare to stop him like so he knows that his aunts will be able to face the demons that he evoked We know that evil Wyatt is a traumatized boy so it is likely that the loss of his mother and aunts did emerge his childhood trauma, his need for power is a need for the security lost loosing his family
I don't think Piper would be easy to kill so I think that somebody very clever has worked with many allies to eliminate the CO
Hyde School Reunion, Chris (when Piper asks about her death)
"I can't tell you that.It could change the future in even worse ways" I gather from this phrase that only Piper died on his birthday
I like to think that in the original future the same thing were happened (without the consequences of the death of Chris, no crazy Leo, no Avatars) but at different times and Zankou has found a way to come back and plotting against them he is the only one, along with the Source, that could kill the sisters, maybe working with Christy
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Post by erikamarie on Dec 28, 2009 10:49:56 GMT -5
I totally agree with you: the beauiful of Charmed is that the protagonists are ordinary women, not beings with super powers, not obsessed demon hunters,not Templars of magic. Women, with the power to protect the innocent and the courage to do it, even paying hard it
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Post by erikamarie on Dec 28, 2009 10:38:54 GMT -5
Sigmund is not an idiot: he's blind faith in Gideon, he never questioned his orders and when he realized that the "greater good" can not be achieved by killing a child, he faithfully communicated his disagreement.How could he imagine that Elder could kill an innocent person just to shut him up?
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Post by erikamarie on Dec 11, 2009 2:51:51 GMT -5
I think this derived from the damage of the Elders image, when they acquire human characteristics and become spiteful violent lunatics, they lose authority
Look at Something Wicca This Way Goes:the sisters are really willing to sacrifice themselves to stop Zankou but the Elders are not willing to risk their nose out from Up There even to heal Piper
There is a real risk of exposing the magic, but the Elders, so quick to want to get rid of baby Wyatt by the Cleaners,leave once the sisters to get off with it alone,to fake their own death is the only possible expedient to save magic
How could the sisters still accept rules written by entities so ambiguous,so coward,so unjust?
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Post by erikamarie on Dec 10, 2009 16:42:24 GMT -5
Charmed is the story of three ordinary sisters who discover that they are witches and agree to use their powers to help the innocent: they are not three saints,not three angels,not three bold heroines without fear,but ordinary women with flaws, worries, bills to pay, house to run,job to save
I love them because they are normal people I am not interessed in perfect women
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Post by erikamarie on Dec 10, 2009 16:24:18 GMT -5
In Little Monster Piper proves to have a strong maternal spirit, refusing to consider the little demon as a threat and seeing just a kid. All the three of them took a big risk in this episode just to hand back the baby demon to his father showing they have still the innocents at heart
Other example, Something Wicca This Way Goes: Piper is hurted, the Elders make no reply to the sisters calls but she refuses to receive treatment from Wyatt for not to shock him,as Leo in Dolls House. Piper often seems insecure, as it happens to young mothers, but for me she is a good mother to her two sons,also to Chris.
In A Call to Arms she seems pasted to her second born,she is obviously distraught by Chris's death, although she refuses to talk about it, she even denies having any problems but she seems unable to break away from her baby
I agree with Quadquetra,Piper is a good mother
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Post by erikamarie on Dec 7, 2009 8:11:50 GMT -5
As foetus,Wyatt was able to exange his parent's soul,he was eight months when he called for Excalibu,he was one years old when he wounded a powerful Elder as Gideon and burnt a demon running through underworld,he was two when he made smaller and closed in the doll house his parents:he doesn't need magical protection but the adult presence that every child needs
Wyatt is able to protect his little brother and his grandfather but he is a toddler,easy to swindle
His shield is enough to protect his brother, as it is proven in Kill Bill 2,I loved the scenes in Victor's house,Chris full of joy while he was helping his big brother cheating at the game,Wyatt while is covering Chris's cot with his shield
Victor showed to be fit to protect his grandsons when Wyatt was kidnapped: he was careful not freak Chris out, he acted as he wished to play with the toddler, counting on the brothers's bound, because he knows his grandsons
When Piper sends her sons to Victor, it's in order to not upset the children with battles and woundings,to allow them to play,to go to the zoo,to go to the park as normal children:she doesn't need an elf nanny,she needs a relative who reassures them
I don't think Piper was a creepy mom because she didn't call for the elf nanny,I think she was wise
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Post by erikamarie on Dec 3, 2009 11:58:18 GMT -5
- So...does anybody agree that Season 8 was the best year creatively? Why or why not? And for those of you who have openly said how much they dislike Season 8; why do you say that? It was very creative,they had good ideas and a bad way to put into practice Christy was a good character,a young witch raised by demons,breakable not to raise suspicions in the sisters,I liked to see her in action but they did completely wrong in creating the character of her sister, more stupid than naive ( "I want to hunt demons!" not protect the innocents) It'ld be intriguing to address the problem of Magic School captured by demons (although I have always found the Magic School out of place in the world of Charmed),wondering what had happened to students and teachers, instead we had to know that Leo tortured demons to practice students,absolutely beyond the pale It was good the idea of an indeterminate but powerful threat,stupid that the Angel of Destiny thought it was necessary to make Piper suffer and turn her into a Fury again to face Billie and Christy About the kids, I do not think in the season 8 they have been neglected, they were often sent by their grandfather, but this happens even to children whose mother has a full time job and no demon to face |
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